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 Nov 1 2016, 09:49 AM
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I don't recall poppies being worn in the past on England football shirts. Why the fuss from the FA now?
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Nov 1 2016, 04:35 PM
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Nov 1 2016, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 1 2016, 04:35 PM)  I was aware of that. It's a very recent thing. There's no history of wearing poppies or desire to wear poppies on England football shirts before very recently. So my question remains why the fuss now? |
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Nov 1 2016, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 1 2016, 05:20 PM) I was aware of that. It's a very recent thing. There's no history of wearing poppies or desire to wear poppies on England football shirts before very recently. So my question remains why the fuss now? Wearing a poppy in my view is commemorating the fallen of wars past and recent. Its not political and FIFA should be told to s0d off. Then just refuse to pay any fine. |
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Nov 1 2016, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 1 2016, 08:17 PM) Wearing a poppy in my view is commemorating the fallen of wars past and recent. Its not political and FIFA should be told to s0d off. Then just refuse to pay any fine. No problem with that sentiment, but I can't see what place it has on a football kit. |
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Nov 1 2016, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 1 2016, 08:56 PM) No problem with that sentiment, but I can't see what place it has on a football kit. So 888, Carlsberg, Wonga etc is OK on a footy kit but a poppy for 1 week a year is not? I dont get your logic to be honest and I dont see it is a political statement. |
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Nov 1 2016, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 1 2016, 09:56 PM) No problem with that sentiment, but I can't see what place it has on a football kit. Unlike the England team, I can't see what place they have IN a football kit! -------------------- Gammon. And proud!
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Nov 1 2016, 10:52 PM
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Shirt manufacturers flogging one-off replica kits and the Daily Mail are probably pushing this agenda, making a mountain out of a molehill so it gets people buying the shirts when they come out with a poppy. It's not like England are playing Germany though is it...
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Nov 1 2016, 11:08 PM
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It was on an armband.
-------------------- Gammon. And proud!
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Nov 2 2016, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 1 2016, 09:43 PM) So 888, Carlsberg, Wonga etc is OK on a footy kit but a poppy for 1 week a year is not? I dont get your logic to be honest and I dont see it is a political statement. I quite agree, then I realise there's no money in it for FIFA! |
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Nov 2 2016, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 2 2016, 07:48 AM) I quite agree, then I realise there's no money in it for FIFA! Unless replics shirts are sold of course. My point is why now. Why not in the 50, 60s, 70s etc? |
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Nov 2 2016, 11:02 AM
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In my experience, there was a general falling off of the recognition of Remembrance in those decades. Recently, I think due in part to Royal Wootton Basset, there has been an increased awareness. The 2 minutes silence at 11:00 on 11th Nov is now more widely observed.
I do also object to one of the most corrupt organisations in the world trying to tell us what we may or may not do in this matter. Remembrance is not political - it remembers all war dead |
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Nov 2 2016, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 2 2016, 08:40 AM) Unless replics shirts are sold of course. My point is why now. Why not in the 50, 60s, 70s etc? Why bother with shirts, arm bands were shown at lunch time, which means the whole crowd might like to wear one too. I'm sure the Fan Shops could sell them and make a small donation to British Legion; after expenses of course. Nasty smell isn't there? -------------------- Know your place!
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Nov 2 2016, 05:43 PM
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Nov 2 2016, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Nov 2 2016, 05:43 PM) He is well known for this. Does it every year. Fifa do have double standards though.... @ss wipes. http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37853386 |
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Nov 3 2016, 06:56 AM
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Ino longer wear a poppy as I think it's a symbol that's now no longer used purely for remembrance. To me it is a symbol of support for our recent wars. I know that many of the people who wear them don't see that, but that's how I now see them. I therefore think it's a political symbol and FIFA are correct.
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Nov 3 2016, 08:10 AM
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Good effort!
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Nov 3 2016, 08:19 AM
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I wear a poppey for personal reasons. My problem is however, organisations hijacking it for their own gains.
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Nov 3 2016, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Nov 2 2016, 05:43 PM) Which proves that there is a political aspect to the poppy. |
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Nov 3 2016, 09:28 AM
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According to The Bible:
"United Kingdom Royal British Legion poppy: In the United Kingdom, remembrance poppies are sold by The Royal British Legion (RBL). This is a charity providing financial, social, political and emotional support to those who have served or who are currently serving in the British Armed Forces, and their dependants. " FIFA have every right to do as they do. I don't like it, but I can understand how some people who have been bombed senseless in recent past, the are made unwelcome by the perpetrators, don't have much sympathy for the sentiment. I always wear a poppy, but I am too beginning to think that perhaps there is a less desirable aspect to it. |
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