 Syria: to bomb or not to bomb? |
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 Sep 10 2015, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 7 2015, 07:35 PM)  Europe have no bottle. Is that why they had a wine lake? Nothing to put it in?  |
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Sep 10 2015, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 8 2015, 11:08 AM) You're right of course but unfortunately the whole western economy depends on it. We all use it to maintain our way of life and standard of living. If we are all willing to sacrifice that then maybe wars over oil may be averted. Not forgetting that there is now talk of "water wars" as parts of the world dry up. |
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Sep 10 2015, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Sep 10 2015, 10:05 AM) Not forgetting that there is now talk of "water wars" as parts of the world dry up. Yep, more expensive than milk now apparently!
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Sep 10 2015, 03:47 PM
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Yes, the terrorists need bombing into oblivion right now with no mercy. We are not going to win the war on terror by going soft.
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Sep 10 2015, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Sep 10 2015, 04:47 PM) Yes, the terrorists need bombing into oblivion right now with no mercy. We are not going to win the war on terror by going soft. OK, but doesn't that kind of foreign policy make us the terrorists? Doesn't that kid of belligerence make us a legitimate target? -------------------- Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Sep 10 2015, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 10 2015, 07:25 PM) OK, but doesn't that kind of foreign policy make us the terrorists? Doesn't that kid of belligerence make us a legitimate target? It's called self defense. |
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Sep 10 2015, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 10 2015, 10:03 PM) It's called self defense. And you can call a spade a "manual earth-moving device", but that doesn't change what it is. Launching a pre-emptive assault in Syria to bomb "terrorists" into oblivion would be disproportionate to the threat that they pose to us, and would do little to improve the situation for Syrians, and it would just provoke more of the danger that you fear. Our best defence is not to carry on like we have been carrying on for the last, well, 1000 years really, give or take. -------------------- Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Sep 10 2015, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 10 2015, 10:03 PM) It's called self defense. I'm not sure you'd appreciate the smash in the face I'd give you because you seem very aggressive to me. Only looking after myself. 
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Sep 10 2015, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 10 2015, 10:32 PM) I'm not sure you'd appreciate the smash in the face I'd give you because you seem very aggressive to me. Only looking after myself. Not if I've got a bigger stick than you! |
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Sep 10 2015, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 10 2015, 10:31 PM) And you can call a spade a "manual earth-moving device", but that doesn't change what it is. Launching a pre-emptive assault in Syria to bomb "terrorists" into oblivion would be disproportionate to the threat that they pose to us, and would do little to improve the situation for Syrians, and it would just provoke more of the danger that you fear. Our best defence is not to carry on like we have been carrying on for the last, well, 1000 years really, give or take. Its called pre emptive, if you see a mad dog in your garden you don't wait for it to bite your children, or do you? Me, I go get the axe out of the woodshed. |
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Sep 11 2015, 06:42 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 11 2015, 12:36 AM) Its called pre emptive, if you see a mad dog in your garden you don't wait for it to bite your children, or do you? Me, I go get the axe out of the woodshed. No, I don't and nor do most people I know. We'd try to contain the dog, find out what was causing the issue, then put it right. The methods you advocate would suggest we would all be wise to equip ourselves with weapons if we venture into the town centre Saturday night. -------------------- Know your place!
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Sep 11 2015, 07:51 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 10 2015, 10:03 PM) It's called self defense. Or even defence!!  We're still the UK (at present) Long live the Queen...............oh! ........she has!
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Sep 11 2015, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 11 2015, 12:36 AM) Its called pre emptive, if you see a mad dog in your garden you don't wait for it to bite your children, or do you? Me, I go get the axe out of the woodshed. I just knew you'd have a woodshed with an axe. -------------------- Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Sep 11 2015, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 11 2015, 09:03 AM) I just knew you'd have a woodshed with an axe. And it's a biggun, and its sharp. |
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Sep 11 2015, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 11 2015, 07:42 AM) No, I don't and nor do most people I know. We'd try to contain the dog, find out what was causing the issue, then put it right. The methods you advocate would suggest we would all be wise to equip ourselves with weapons if we venture into the town centre Saturday night. **** right! |
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Sep 11 2015, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 11 2015, 09:07 AM) **** right! The problem is, bombing on its own will not work, especially if unilaterally performed by the west. |
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Sep 11 2015, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 11 2015, 09:22 AM) The problem is, bombing on its own will not work, especially if unilaterally performed by the west. Quite right, which is why we use napalm and chain guns as well, just to soften them up. Then go back with more bombs. 
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