IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Remember this day
Phil_D11102
post Jun 5 2014, 04:43 PM
Post #1


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 396
Joined: 16-April 10
Member No.: 846



It was on this day 70 years ago men lined up and boarded planes to be dropped over Normandy. Their role was to keep the German Panzers and reinforcements busy as well as to stop them from going to the beaches in an attempt to push back the main invasion force.

There were men boarding planes all over West Berkshire, most notably Greenham Common. One of the most famous photos from the Second World War was taken this day 70 years ago.

To commemorate the day, and the sacrifices of those brave men, there is absolutely nothing going on. Not WBC, the NTC or the Greenham Trust. Well done, shame on you..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_airb...hower_d-day.jpg

Special message to that somebody out there. The tower may not be there if the invasion failed. Did you recognize those who boarded the planes when talking about the tower?
Attached File(s)
Attached File  1024px_Eisenhower_d_day.jpg ( 124.03K ) Number of downloads: 4
 
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
On the edge
post Jun 5 2014, 05:42 PM
Post #2


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 7,847
Joined: 23-May 09
From: Newbury
Member No.: 98



I have some sympathy with that, but there are significant national events taking place and 70 isn't normally considered a land mark period. The proximity of the WW1 centenary rememberance and of course the 75th of WW2 means that these necessarily take precidence. Of course, it's absolutely right to remember those who fought in these conflicts and it's good we keep that up formally and properly every year. Nonetheless, I don't think our local Councils or even Greenham Trust should have been doing anything other than they are.


--------------------
Know your place!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Phil_D11102
post Jun 5 2014, 05:50 PM
Post #3


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 396
Joined: 16-April 10
Member No.: 846



QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 5 2014, 06:42 PM) *
I have some sympathy with that, but there are significant national events taking place and 70 isn't normally considered a land mark period. The proximity of the WW1 centenary rememberance and of course the 75th of WW2 means that these necessarily take precidence. Of course, it's absolutely right to remember those who fought in these conflicts and it's good we keep that up formally and properly every year. Nonetheless, I don't think our local Councils or even Greenham Trust should have been doing anything other than they are.


Sure, a simple service would be over the top..


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27700479
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Turin Machine
post Jun 5 2014, 05:53 PM
Post #4


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 2,676
Joined: 23-September 10
From: In the lower 40
Member No.: 1,104



I personally take a moment on the 6th June, to remember my father who died on that date. It also prompts me to say a silent thank you to all the men and women who died to ensure our freedom all those years ago.


--------------------
Gammon. And proud!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
On the edge
post Jun 5 2014, 05:56 PM
Post #5


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 7,847
Joined: 23-May 09
From: Newbury
Member No.: 98



Sure, a simple service would be quite OK, but it would not be unreasonable to have expected that if something was needed locally, one of the service organisations, such as the British Legion, would have called for it. In fact, I suspect they'd even (rightly) feel somewhat aggrieved, if events were called by the Local Council just on their own initiative.


--------------------
Know your place!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Phil_D11102
post Jun 6 2014, 07:20 AM
Post #6


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 396
Joined: 16-April 10
Member No.: 846



QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 5 2014, 06:56 PM) *
Sure, a simple service would be quite OK, but it would not be unreasonable to have expected that if something was needed locally, one of the service organisations, such as the British Legion, would have called for it. In fact, I suspect they'd even (rightly) feel somewhat aggrieved, if events were called by the Local Council just on their own initiative.


If they are not organizing an event, why would they feel aggrieved about something remembering the efforts, and in some cases the deaths of those who fought for freedom?

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
newres
post Jun 6 2014, 12:33 PM
Post #7


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 2,674
Joined: 27-November 12
Member No.: 8,961



The thing is that when we get to the 75th anniversary we may have no survivors left. That said, the Facebook "share if you care" campaigns are nauseating.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Berkshirelad
post Jun 6 2014, 12:56 PM
Post #8


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 810
Joined: 13-August 09
Member No.: 271



QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 5 2014, 06:42 PM) *
The proximity of the WW1 centenary rememberance


Am I alone in thinking that WW1 centenary celebration should be a cerebration of the end of the war (ie in 2018)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
JeffG
post Jun 6 2014, 01:03 PM
Post #9


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 3,762
Joined: 14-May 09
Member No.: 56



QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Jun 6 2014, 01:56 PM) *
Am I alone in thinking that WW1 centenary celebration should be a cerebration of the end of the war (ie in 2018)

I got the impression that there are going to be special programmes spanning the whole four years, so you will probably get your wish.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Nothing Much
post Jun 6 2014, 01:06 PM
Post #10


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,690
Joined: 16-July 11
Member No.: 6,171



There is so much to memorialise. Where to end?

Surfing to Normandy.
REME Officers were towed on their Mullberry bits across La Manche.
I never knew that until his funeral.
ce
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
NWNREADER
post Jun 6 2014, 01:36 PM
Post #11


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 3,414
Joined: 20-November 10
Member No.: 1,265



QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Jun 6 2014, 01:56 PM) *
Am I alone in thinking that WW1 centenary celebration should be a cerebration of the end of the war (ie in 2018)

Maybe, as there are no celebrations planned, only commemorations....
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
On the edge
post Jun 6 2014, 03:25 PM
Post #12


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 7,847
Joined: 23-May 09
From: Newbury
Member No.: 98



QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Jun 6 2014, 08:20 AM) *
If they are not organizing an event, why would they feel aggrieved about something remembering the efforts, and in some cases the deaths of those who fought for freedom?


Simply because it's not really the Council's place to do this. I quite appreciate the significance of this, but there is a good reason to remember past conflicts on every day of the year. We formally remember every single year on November 11th. With the greatest respect, some have lost relatives and relations in other recent conflicts or theatres which weren't as big, though often just as significant. It is right that a massive national event in the presence of the Queen, is taking place at the moment, which gives us the opportunity to remember the fallen.


--------------------
Know your place!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Nothing Much
post Jun 6 2014, 05:24 PM
Post #13


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,690
Joined: 16-July 11
Member No.: 6,171



In the end. A step back and a thought for what went on should be enough for most people.
I am behind OTE in being forward about overindulgengesism

An uncle failed to return after an event over Emden.

He was part of the first 1000 bomber raid on Essen.
I think there was a fair number of fatalities that day.
He was a brave fellow. And died.
ce
l
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Andy Capp
post Jun 6 2014, 06:52 PM
Post #14


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 11,902
Joined: 3-September 09
Member No.: 317



Nearly 50% of bomber command's crew never survived the war.

Perhaps not a very popular thing to say, but I sometimes wonder what it must have been like for the young Germans to see that armada coming over the horizon!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
On the edge
post Jun 6 2014, 07:10 PM
Post #15


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 7,847
Joined: 23-May 09
From: Newbury
Member No.: 98



QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 6 2014, 07:52 PM) *
Nearly 50% of bomber command's crew never survived the war.

Perhaps not a very popular thing to say, but I sometimes wonder what it must have been like for the young Germans to see that armada coming over the horizon!


A very valid thing to say though. Reports I've heard suggest sheer terror; after a few years of war, and in the knowledge of what was beginning to happen elsewhere, the likelihood of defeat hadn't escaped the German forces.


--------------------
Know your place!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Nothing Much
post Jun 6 2014, 07:50 PM
Post #16


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,690
Joined: 16-July 11
Member No.: 6,171



Whilst working at the Watermill Theatre in the very early years,the "chatelaine" employed
aux pairs. Ulla and Barbel. From Germania.
No one cared about that war, it was Isle of Watsit, Hendrix at Whenever.

Ulla I know went on to be a head honcho in eurobanking.
Barbel( with an umlaut) I met up with a while later, had become a mother,teacher and dare I say it a green politician.
What a life we lead.
ce

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Turin Machine
post Jun 6 2014, 08:46 PM
Post #17


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 2,676
Joined: 23-September 10
From: In the lower 40
Member No.: 1,104



QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 6 2014, 07:52 PM) *
Nearly 50% of bomber command's crew never survived the war.

Perhaps not a very popular thing to say, but I sometimes wonder what it must have been like for the young Germans to see that armada coming over the horizon!

My Dad, god bless him, was in Lancasters, would never talk about it. I have a picture of him in his flying suit standing next to his 'kite'. Brave boys, all of them.


--------------------
Gammon. And proud!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Strafin
post Jun 7 2014, 12:00 AM
Post #18


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 3,930
Joined: 14-May 09
From: Newbury
Member No.: 55



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-26...ions-begin.html

Local Newbury veteran and I am proud to say also my Grandad appeared on the front page today of various newspapers and even on the BBC news. I am proud of him every day.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Andy1
post Jun 10 2014, 10:05 AM
Post #19


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 437
Joined: 2-June 09
Member No.: 121



Every year that passes also sees the passing of more and more of these brave men and women so 70, 71, 72... We'll always remember the ones who gave their lives but let's not forget the livin either. I do take exception however to certain political organisations hijacking the name of these comemorations for their own gain.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
JeffG
post Jun 10 2014, 11:05 AM
Post #20


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 3,762
Joined: 14-May 09
Member No.: 56



QUOTE (Andy1 @ Jun 10 2014, 11:05 AM) *
I do take exception however to certain political organisations hijacking the name of these comemorations for their own gain.

Such as?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 19th January 2022 - 01:52 AM