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Apr 21 2017, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 21 2017, 08:30 AM) Are you sure the politics of envy haven't cut in Andy C? He is often cited as being honest with his exes, etc, but that is easy when you don't need the money. QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 21 2017, 08:30 AM) Benyon has actually gone against party particularly when supporting his country activities; like them or no. Nice Judith is even more a party clone, shoehorned in. Sure Benyon is well heeled, but one can't help wondering how she manages to support herself, it seems to make little difference.
It will be interesting to see what other candidates appear. This should be a good opportunity for Labour to start demonstrating that locally we really do have a real choice other than two shades of blue. He seems pretty natural to me but Richard Benyon has never rebelled against their party in the current parliament. https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11727/ric..._benyon/newburyRichard Benyon’s voting in Parliament Richard Benyon is a Conservative MP, and on the vast majority of issues votes the same way as other Conservative MPs. This is a selection of Richard Benyon’s votes. Generally voted for encouraging occupational pensions Show votes 2 votes for, 0 votes against, 2 absences, between 2010–2011 Generally voted against a more proportional system for electing MPs Show votes 1 vote for, 4 votes against, 1 absence, between 2010–2016 Generally voted against removing hereditary peers from the House of Lords Show votes 1 vote for, 2 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2016 Voted a mixture of for and against a wholly elected House of Lords Show votes 3 votes for, 5 votes against, 1 absence, between 2007–2016 Generally voted for greater restrictions on campaigning by third parties, such as charities, during elections Show votes 8 votes for, 0 votes against, 4 absences, between 2013–2016 Consistently voted for university tuition fees Show votes 3 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2010–2016 We have lots more plain English analysis of Richard Benyon’s voting record on issues like health, welfare, taxation and more. Visit Richard Benyon’s full vote analysis page for more.
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Apr 21 2017, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 20 2017, 08:13 PM) God your sooo out of touch. I dislike Benyon but ill vote for him. No other choice. 20000+
Ps Tim Farron is an odious man. And he believes in the sky fairy. Anyone who isnt scientific or logical doesn't deserve to serve the people. In my humble view. Ain't that the truth!! And your view is by no means humble. Don't shirk behind a valid view.
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Apr 21 2017, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 21 2017, 02:25 PM) He is often cited as being honest with his exes, etc, but that is easy when you don't need the money. He seems pretty natural to me but Richard Benyon has never rebelled against their party in the current parliament. https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11727/ric..._benyon/newburyRichard Benyon’s voting in Parliament Richard Benyon is a Conservative MP, and on the vast majority of issues votes the same way as other Conservative MPs. This is a selection of Richard Benyon’s votes. Generally voted for encouraging occupational pensions Show votes 2 votes for, 0 votes against, 2 absences, between 2010–2011 Generally voted against a more proportional system for electing MPs Show votes 1 vote for, 4 votes against, 1 absence, between 2010–2016 Generally voted against removing hereditary peers from the House of Lords Show votes 1 vote for, 2 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2016 Voted a mixture of for and against a wholly elected House of Lords Show votes 3 votes for, 5 votes against, 1 absence, between 2007–2016 Generally voted for greater restrictions on campaigning by third parties, such as charities, during elections Show votes 8 votes for, 0 votes against, 4 absences, between 2013–2016 Consistently voted for university tuition fees Show votes 3 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2010–2016 We have lots more plain English analysis of Richard Benyon’s voting record on issues like health, welfare, taxation and more. Visit Richard Benyon’s full vote analysis page for more. Going against isn't just voting, it's also influence before and behind. Say what you will, for better or worse, Benyon will have rather more influence in the corridors of power than anything their erstwhile coalition buddies might put up. Voting LibDem is the intellectual equivalent of spoiling your ballot paper.
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Apr 21 2017, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 21 2017, 04:43 PM) Going against isn't just voting, it's also influence before and behind. Say what you will, for better or worse, Benyon will have rather more influence in the corridors of power than anything their erstwhile coalition buddies might put up. Voting LibDem is the intellectual equivalent of spoiling your ballot paper. Such is the way this democracy is arranged, one can find themselves in a political enclave; however, who said anything about voting Lib Dem? I have the rather cynical view that safe seats don't curry so-much favour as they are 'safe'. Marginals may have a different experience.
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Apr 21 2017, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 21 2017, 07:19 PM) And I'll bet an orange to the whole of Lombard Street that most of the 'angry activists' both on this forum and Berkshire as a whole won't even go and vote! 😠 I have voted in every election since I was.18 years old! If you dont vote you shouldn't moan. Thats my view.
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Apr 21 2017, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 21 2017, 08:46 PM) I have voted in every election since I was.18 years old! If you dont vote you shouldn't moan. Thats my view. I have voted in nearly every one, but I find myself distinctly not wanting to vote for anyone.
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Apr 21 2017, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 21 2017, 09:13 PM) I have voted in nearly every one, but I find myself distinctly not wanting to vote for anyone. Well, just do your duty and go, but spoil your ballot paper. You'll at least have the quiet satisfaction that the candidates will be shown your message.
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Apr 22 2017, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 21 2017, 09:18 PM) Well, just do your duty and go, but spoil your ballot paper. You'll at least have the quiet satisfaction that the candidates will be shown your message. Vote "None of the above". Brewsters Millions...
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Apr 27 2017, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 27 2017, 12:13 PM) The Newburytoday poll puts the Libdems 7 points ahead of the Tories. Trump Brexit
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Apr 27 2017, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 27 2017, 12:13 PM) The Newburytoday poll puts the Libdems 7 points ahead of the Tories. Having seen the big adverts.....'well, they would, wouldn't they'.
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Apr 27 2017, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 27 2017, 06:18 PM) Although if the election is single issue, a victory for the Libdems makes sense here. Except they have an irritating twot in charge!
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Apr 28 2017, 06:40 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 27 2017, 06:18 PM) Although if the election is single issue, a victory for the Libdems makes sense here. For me, it would just be like voting Tory lite; the same as the real thing with something missing. In reality, the county areas will keep the constituency true blue until the demographics change and then the real opposition will cut in. A few years away yet, but coming; once those thousands of commuter apartments are filled. Liberal Democracy is really an oxymoron; two irreconcilable components. Simonite Liberals holding hands with Macdonald socialists, doesn't work even on paper. So, from where I am, the only credible proposition on offer right now is Labour; even round here. Why; the Torys know they are unassaibable and even if the unthinkable happened and Richard Benyon was defeated, they believe his replacement would be essentially one of their own a LibDem. For them, and locally for sure, a strong Labour vote sends a really hard message.
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