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Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Apr 30 2019, 08:58 PM

..... and if so... who the **** for?
Its not like Lord Buckethead is standing..

Posted by: je suis Charlie Apr 30 2019, 09:02 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 30 2019, 09:58 PM) *
..... and if so... who the **** for?
Its not like Lord Buckethead is standing..

Find the most unlikely candidate and vote for them. If everyone voted for JR Soapstone (equal rights for Owls party) someone, somewhere might just get the message!

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Apr 30 2019, 09:20 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 30 2019, 10:02 PM) *
Find the most unlikely candidate and vote for them. If everyone voted for JR Soapstone (equal rights for Owls party) someone, somewhere might just get the message!

I would but I can't...

http://decisionmaking.westberks.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=310&RPID=9612395

Guess I'll just have to spoil with a few words...

Posted by: Biker1 May 1 2019, 07:33 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 30 2019, 10:02 PM) *
Find the most unlikely candidate and vote for them. If everyone voted for JR Soapstone (equal rights for Owls party) someone, somewhere might just get the message!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isfr1pn9iXY smile.gif

Posted by: SirWilliam May 1 2019, 08:00 AM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 1 2019, 08:33 AM) *
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isfr1pn9iXY smile.gif


Doesn't sit on the fence does he. laugh.gif Be interesting to see what happens but my pension is a continuation of the status quo. Never mind there is always next time. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: newres May 1 2019, 08:16 AM

QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 1 2019, 08:33 AM) *
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isfr1pn9iXY smile.gif

He’s right in one respect. The world is laughing at us and our Neanderthal population. Watch JRM live on Facebook and gammon watch. Rarely do we see a properly formed sentence. It’s mostly “WTO NOW!” despite the fact they don’t have an O level between them, let alone an Economics one. Turkeys voting for Christmas. Gobble, gobble.

Posted by: Strafin May 1 2019, 09:09 AM

What I do find interesting with this particular election is that the Liberal Democrats have failed to find enough candidates to challenge all the seats whereas Labour have.

Conservatives have also, but that's a given really. For years we have been told that Labour can't win here, but now they could and seem to have a decent amount of support. That's quite a change as one of the reasons they couldn't win before was simpy because there wasn't anyone standing!

As for my personal vote, I am so torn. I only have the three major parties to choose from so I might just go and draw a big c0ck on the paper. And balls obviously.

Posted by: newres May 1 2019, 09:44 AM

QUOTE (Strafin @ May 1 2019, 10:09 AM) *
What I do find interesting with this particular election is that the Liberal Democrats have failed to find enough candidates to challenge all the seats whereas Labour have.

Conservatives have also, but that's a given really. For years we have been told that Labour can't win here, but now they could and seem to have a decent amount of support. That's quite a change as one of the reasons they couldn't win before was simpy because there wasn't anyone standing!

As for my personal vote, I am so torn. I only have the three major parties to choose from so I might just go and draw a big c0ck on the paper. And balls obviously.

I think the sensible thing to do is to be concerned only with local issues. I’ll probably vote Green even though our candidate is a bit of a knob.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 1 2019, 11:15 AM

My own personal prediction is that both Tory and labour parties take a drubbing, many, many people are now thoroughly fed up with the lies and infighting from both camps.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 1 2019, 11:24 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 1 2019, 09:16 AM) *
He’s right in one respect. The world is laughing at us and our Neanderthal population. Watch JRM live on Facebook and gammon watch. Rarely do we see a properly formed sentence. It’s mostly “WTO NOW!” despite the fact they don’t have an O level between them, let alone an Economics one. Turkeys voting for Christmas. Gobble, gobble.

Hmm, JRM, no O level, hmm, let's see. Oh yes, educated at Eton college. Second class honours degree at Trinity college. Learned to read company reports and balance sheets at the age of ten when he started investing in the stock market. (Note please that that's a proper degree, not a Billy Liar degree).

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 1 2019, 11:37 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 1 2019, 12:24 PM) *
Hmm, JRM, no O level, hmm, let's see. Oh yes, educated at Eton college. Second class honours degree at Trinity college. Learned to read company reports and balance sheets at the age of ten when he started investing in the stock market. (Note please that that's a proper degree, not a Billy Liar degree).

But he is a brexiteer so he must be a thick racist. Newres says so.

Posted by: James_Trinder May 1 2019, 11:38 AM

Got to be Liberal Democrats for me in the local elections. Slightly torn between them and Change UK in the upcoming European elections though.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 1 2019, 11:41 AM

QUOTE (Strafin @ May 1 2019, 10:09 AM) *
What I do find interesting with this particular election is that the Liberal Democrats have failed to find enough candidates to challenge all the seats whereas Labour have.

Conservatives have also, but that's a given really. For years we have been told that Labour can't win here, but now they could and seem to have a decent amount of support. That's quite a change as one of the reasons they couldn't win before was simpy because there wasn't anyone standing!

As for my personal vote, I am so torn. I only have the three major parties to choose from so I might just go and draw a big c0ck on the paper. And balls obviously.


I don't thing a c0ck and balls is strong enough. I'd wipe my a$$ on it. It will be interesting to see the number of "spoiled" or possibly "solied" ballot papers.. I believe it will be a record percentage.

Posted by: James_Trinder May 1 2019, 11:43 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 1 2019, 12:24 PM) *
Hmm, JRM, no O level, hmm, let's see. Oh yes, educated at Eton college. Second class honours degree at Trinity college. Learned to read company reports and balance sheets at the age of ten when he started investing in the stock market. (Note please that that's a proper degree, not a Billy Liar degree).


That just makes him an educated fool with money on his mind, as Coolio once said.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 1 2019, 11:45 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 1 2019, 12:41 PM) *
I don't thing a c0ck and balls is strong enough. I'd wipe my a$$ on it. It will be interesting to see the number of "spoiled" or possibly "solied" ballot papers.. I believe it will be a record percentage.

Never understood why anyone would take the effort to get to a polling station only to spoil their ballot paper. Unless you're newres of course, they don't take kindly to people scribbling on the papers with a Crayola.

Posted by: James_Trinder May 1 2019, 11:46 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 1 2019, 12:41 PM) *
I don't thing a c0ck and balls is strong enough. I'd wipe my a$$ on it. It will be interesting to see the number of "spoiled" or possibly "solied" ballot papers.. I believe it will be a record percentage.


I'm more interested in whether you will be prepared to eat your words if that is not the case.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 1 2019, 11:48 AM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 1 2019, 12:43 PM) *
That just makes him an educated fool with money on his mind, as Coolio once said.

Ah yes, Plato, Sophocles, Aristotle and of course, Coolio, one of the great thinkers of this or any other time.

Posted by: James_Trinder May 1 2019, 11:58 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 1 2019, 12:48 PM) *
Ah yes, Plato, Sophocles, Aristotle and of course, Coolio, one of the great thinkers of this or any other time.


You may mock but there is actually quite a lot of philosophising going on in Gangsta's Paradise, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangsta%27s_Paradise#Synopsis

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 1 2019, 12:01 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 1 2019, 12:58 PM) *
You may mock but there is actually quite a lot of philosophising going on in Gangsta's Paradise, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangsta%27s_Paradise#Synopsis

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Turin Machine May 1 2019, 12:03 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 1 2019, 12:58 PM) *
You may mock but there is actually quite a lot of philosophising going on in Gangsta's Paradise, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangsta%27s_Paradise#Synopsis

Yeah, someone else who shouts about the evil of money and greed, on his way to the bank. Coolio 🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 1 2019, 12:10 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 1 2019, 12:58 PM) *
You may mock but there is actually quite a lot of philosophising going on in Gangsta's Paradise, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangsta%27s_Paradise#Synopsis


Someone voting Lib Dem thinks Coolio is a "philosopher"....says it all...

Posted by: newres May 1 2019, 12:10 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 1 2019, 12:24 PM) *
Hmm, JRM, no O level, hmm, let's see. Oh yes, educated at Eton college. Second class honours degree at Trinity college. Learned to read company reports and balance sheets at the age of ten when he started investing in the stock market. (Note please that that's a proper degree, not a Billy Liar degree).

I wasn't talking about JRM. He will be unaffected and probably to the good as a result of Brexit. I didn't do any Keith Waterhouse novels in my English degree. I have read that one though.


Posted by: je suis Charlie May 1 2019, 12:16 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 1 2019, 01:10 PM) *
I wasn't talking about JRM.


Really? Because you wrote,

QUOTE (newres @ May 1 2019, 09:16 AM) *
Watch JRM. Rarely do we see a properly formed sentence. It’s mostly “WTO NOW!” despite the fact they don’t have an O level between them, let alone an Economics one.


So, lying again? Or merely (very short term) memory loss?

Posted by: Strafin May 1 2019, 01:25 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 1 2019, 12:45 PM) *
Never understood why anyone would take the effort to get to a polling station only to spoil their ballot paper. Unless you're newres of course, they don't take kindly to people scribbling on the papers with a Crayola.

I don't think they really care, just another column to tick. But I think there will be record numbers of spoiled papers and I just want to feel part of something that is actually growing for once.


Posted by: je suis Charlie May 1 2019, 01:38 PM

QUOTE (Strafin @ May 1 2019, 02:25 PM) *
I don't think they really care, just another column to tick. But I think there will be record numbers of spoiled papers and I just want to feel part of something that is actually growing for once.

You're possibly right, the important thing is to register your displeasure I'm just not certain that wasting a good hard earned vote is the right way.

Posted by: newres May 1 2019, 02:34 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 1 2019, 01:16 PM) *
Really? Because you wrote,



So, lying again? Or merely (very short term) memory loss?

JRM speaks to callers, the viewers type their comments. I said we SEE their comments.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 1 2019, 02:47 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 1 2019, 03:34 PM) *
JRM speaks to callers, the viewers type their comments. I said we SEE their comments.

What ARE you wibbling on about?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 1 2019, 03:18 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 1 2019, 03:47 PM) *
What ARE you wibbling on about?

Humour him... he probably doesn't have long left today on his day release... Think they need to up the dose of Lithium though...

Posted by: newres May 2 2019, 07:43 AM

Thought of you guys:

🗳 Today is #LocalElections2019 day!

☑️ NORMAL PEOPLE: Go vote for who you feel will be best to represent you locally. Polls close at 10pm

☑️ GAMMON: Go on your local Facebook group and tell us you won’t vote for the main parties (despite the fact these are local elections), angrily read The Sun or Daily Mail, claim you’re voting Brexit party or UKIP, waddle along to the polling station and spoil your vote...that’ll show ‘em, wallow in your own brine, punch your keyboard, make out the media are hiding the truth, claim the BBC are biased, scrape your dried bodily fluids off your yellow vest, change your profile picture to include a union flag, or a poppy, or a soldier in silhouette [you choose], go back on Facebook and post a badly-photoshopped and pixelated meme containing factually incorrect information, then post another one as not enough people clicked like on the first one which annoyed you, ejaculate over Brexit, get angry whilst watching Question Time, go on Facebook to tell everyone you’re angry watching question time, bring Dianne Abbott into an online conversation despite the fact she’s probably irrelevant to the original post, punch keyboard again, mummy then sends you to bed.

Posted by: Strafin May 2 2019, 07:51 AM

And somewhere in amongst all that they will have voted tory anyway, rather than spoil their paper, cos deep down they're all conformists anyway.

Posted by: SirWilliam May 2 2019, 08:14 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 1 2019, 10:44 AM) *
I think the sensible thing to do is to be concerned only with local issues. I’ll probably vote Green even though our candidate is a bit of a knob.


Only a bit? If ever there was a political movement that is out of touch with reality it is the Green Party. They want us all to cycle everywhere yet advocate being in the greater european federation with complete movement of goods across the continent. Makes the rest almost credible. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: newres May 2 2019, 10:10 AM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ May 2 2019, 09:14 AM) *
Only a bit? If ever there was a political movement that is out of touch with reality it is the Green Party. They want us all to cycle everywhere yet advocate being in the greater european federation with complete movement of goods across the continent. Makes the rest almost credible. rolleyes.gif

Better movement from France than Australia. wink.gif

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 2 2019, 10:38 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 2 2019, 08:43 AM) *
Thought of you guys:

🗳 Today is #LocalElections2019 day!

☑️ NORMAL PEOPLE: Go vote for who you feel will be best to represent you locally. Polls close at 10pm

☑️ GAMMON: Go on your local Facebook group and tell us you won’t vote for the main parties (despite the fact these are local elections), angrily read The Sun or Daily Mail, claim you’re voting Brexit party or UKIP, waddle along to the polling station and spoil your vote...that’ll show ‘em, wallow in your own brine, punch your keyboard, make out the media are hiding the truth, claim the BBC are biased, scrape your dried bodily fluids off your yellow vest, change your profile picture to include a union flag, or a poppy, or a soldier in silhouette [you choose], go back on Facebook and post a badly-photoshopped and pixelated meme containing factually incorrect information, then post another one as not enough people clicked like on the first one which annoyed you, ejaculate over Brexit, get angry whilst watching Question Time, go on Facebook to tell everyone you’re angry watching question time, bring Dianne Abbott into an online conversation despite the fact she’s probably irrelevant to the original post, punch keyboard again, mummy then sends you to bed.


Very droll. It's called democracy chap. My vote or spoiled paper is my own choice. Go !$#% yourself you arrogant #$$

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 2 2019, 10:38 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 2 2019, 08:43 AM) *
Thought of you guys:

🗳 Today is #LocalElections2019 day!

☑️ NORMAL PEOPLE: Go vote for who you feel will be best to represent you locally. Polls close at 10pm

☑️ GAMMON: Go on your local Facebook group and tell us you won’t vote for the main parties (despite the fact these are local elections), angrily read The Sun or Daily Mail, claim you’re voting Brexit party or UKIP, waddle along to the polling station and spoil your vote...that’ll show ‘em, wallow in your own brine, punch your keyboard, make out the media are hiding the truth, claim the BBC are biased, scrape your dried bodily fluids off your yellow vest, change your profile picture to include a union flag, or a poppy, or a soldier in silhouette [you choose], go back on Facebook and post a badly-photoshopped and pixelated meme containing factually incorrect information, then post another one as not enough people clicked like on the first one which annoyed you, ejaculate over Brexit, get angry whilst watching Question Time, go on Facebook to tell everyone you’re angry watching question time, bring Dianne Abbott into an online conversation despite the fact she’s probably irrelevant to the original post, punch keyboard again, mummy then sends you to bed.


Very droll. It's called democracy chap. My vote or spoiled paper is my own choice. Go !$#% yourself you arrogant #$$

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 2 2019, 10:38 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 2 2019, 08:43 AM) *
Thought of you guys:

🗳 Today is #LocalElections2019 day!

☑️ NORMAL PEOPLE: Go vote for who you feel will be best to represent you locally. Polls close at 10pm

☑️ GAMMON: Go on your local Facebook group and tell us you won’t vote for the main parties (despite the fact these are local elections), angrily read The Sun or Daily Mail, claim you’re voting Brexit party or UKIP, waddle along to the polling station and spoil your vote...that’ll show ‘em, wallow in your own brine, punch your keyboard, make out the media are hiding the truth, claim the BBC are biased, scrape your dried bodily fluids off your yellow vest, change your profile picture to include a union flag, or a poppy, or a soldier in silhouette [you choose], go back on Facebook and post a badly-photoshopped and pixelated meme containing factually incorrect information, then post another one as not enough people clicked like on the first one which annoyed you, ejaculate over Brexit, get angry whilst watching Question Time, go on Facebook to tell everyone you’re angry watching question time, bring Dianne Abbott into an online conversation despite the fact she’s probably irrelevant to the original post, punch keyboard again, mummy then sends you to bed.


Very droll. It's called democracy chap. My vote or spoiled paper is my own choice. Go !$#% yourself you arrogant #$$

Posted by: newres May 2 2019, 10:43 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 2 2019, 11:38 AM) *
Very droll. It's called democracy chap. My vote or spoiled paper is my own choice. Go !$#% yourself you arrogant #$$

Had you to a tee though didn't it? laugh.gif

Posted by: Turin Machine May 2 2019, 10:46 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 2 2019, 08:43 AM) *
Thought of you guys:

🗳 Today is #LocalElections2019 day!

☑️ NORMAL PEOPLE: Go vote for who you feel will be best to represent you locally. Polls close at 10pm

☑️ GAMMON: Go on your local Facebook group and tell us you won’t vote for the main parties (despite the fact these are local elections), angrily read The Sun or Daily Mail, claim you’re voting Brexit party or UKIP, waddle along to the polling station and spoil your vote...that’ll show ‘em, wallow in your own brine, punch your keyboard, make out the media are hiding the truth, claim the BBC are biased, scrape your dried bodily fluids off your yellow vest, change your profile picture to include a union flag, or a poppy, or a soldier in silhouette [you choose], go back on Facebook and post a badly-photoshopped and pixelated meme containing factually incorrect information, then post another one as not enough people clicked like on the first one which annoyed you, ejaculate over Brexit, get angry whilst watching Question Time, go on Facebook to tell everyone you’re angry watching question time, bring Dianne Abbott into an online conversation despite the fact she’s probably irrelevant to the original post, punch keyboard again, mummy then sends you to bed.

And newres learns how to cut and paste, be writing in Crayola tomorrow.

Posted by: newres May 2 2019, 11:00 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 2 2019, 11:46 AM) *
And newres learns how to cut and paste, be writing in Crayola tomorrow.

Keep ejaculating over Brexit.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 2 2019, 11:04 AM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ May 2 2019, 09:14 AM) *
Only a bit? If ever there was a political movement that is out of touch with reality it is the Green Party. They want us all to cycle everywhere yet advocate being in the greater european federation with complete movement of goods across the continent. Makes the rest almost credible. rolleyes.gif

Remember their candidate from a few years ago, had so little clue about pollution issues he thought bragging about his land rover running on used chip fat was 'being green' and couldn't see the irony of him heating his house in the country by burning wood. Oh how we laughed.

Posted by: bonnie May 2 2019, 11:50 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 2 2019, 08:43 AM) *
Thought of you guys:

🗳 Today is #LocalElections2019 day!

☑️ NORMAL PEOPLE: Go vote for who you feel will be best to represent you locally. Polls close at 10pm

☑️ GAMMON: Go on your local Facebook group and tell us you won’t vote for the main parties (despite the fact these are local elections), angrily read The Sun or Daily Mail, claim you’re voting Brexit party or UKIP, waddle along to the polling station and spoil your vote...that’ll show ‘em, wallow in your own brine, punch your keyboard, make out the media are hiding the truth, claim the BBC are biased, scrape your dried bodily fluids off your yellow vest, change your profile picture to include a union flag, or a poppy, or a soldier in silhouette [you choose], go back on Facebook and post a badly-photoshopped and pixelated meme containing factually incorrect information, then post another one as not enough people clicked like on the first one which annoyed you, ejaculate over Brexit, get angry whilst watching Question Time, go on Facebook to tell everyone you’re angry watching question time, bring Dianne Abbott into an online conversation despite the fact she’s probably irrelevant to the original post, punch keyboard again, mummy then sends you to bed.


Posted by: bonnie May 2 2019, 12:02 PM

Newres<I think you are horrible,looking at your posts,they are rude and in most cases are downright nasty,It isn't any wonder some people,derogatory including myself, do not post on here very often when your replies are so derogatory. sad.gif

Posted by: James_Trinder May 2 2019, 12:10 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 1 2019, 01:10 PM) *
Someone voting Lib Dem thinks Coolio is a "philosopher"....says it all...



You don't have to be a philosopher to philosophise in the same way that you don't have to be a mathematician to carry out everyday arithmetic. In any case, I don't consider Coolio to be a philosopher and was just having a laugh, to be honest.

Posted by: James_Trinder May 2 2019, 12:27 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 2 2019, 11:38 AM) *
Very droll. It's called democracy chap. My vote or spoiled paper is my own choice. Go !$#% yourself you arrogant #$$


Your own vote or lack of it is of course your own personal choice. In the 2017 general election in the Newbury constituency there were 144/60,999 spoiled votes or 0.236% of votes cast. Let's see if this percentage is exceeded in these local elections but I would certainly expect some eating of words to be done if this relatively low percentage is not exceeded by some margin.

Posted by: newres May 2 2019, 01:47 PM

QUOTE (bonnie @ May 2 2019, 01:02 PM) *
Newres<I think you are horrible,looking at your posts,they are rude and in most cases are downright nasty,It isn't any wonder some people,derogatory including myself, do not post on here very often when your replies are so derogatory. sad.gif

Oh that's a shame as we could do with EVEN more gammon who can't figure out the quote function on here. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 2 2019, 02:11 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 2 2019, 02:47 PM) *
Oh that's a shame as we could do with EVEN more gammon who can't figure out the quote function on here. rolleyes.gif

And once again you rise to the situation, well done.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 2 2019, 08:29 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 2 2019, 02:47 PM) *
Oh that's a shame as we could do with EVEN more gammon who can't figure out the quote function on here. rolleyes.gif

I'd rather be a "Gammon" chap than you. I don't think it's a coincidence that most people that join this forum find you to be an appalling creature. I did vote by the way. Always have. Always will. First time I have not voted for anyone though. The Tories are finished and I see good old Nigel is now 9 points clear on the polls for the Euros. I will be voting then.🤣🤣

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 2 2019, 08:49 PM

It will be interesting to see tomorrow's results, the usual parties will of course try to tell us "it's an accurate reflection of the next GE" whereas of course local elections are always used as a protest. Still, going to be interesting.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 2 2019, 09:06 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 2 2019, 09:49 PM) *
It will be interesting to see tomorrow's results, the usual parties will of course try to tell us "it's an accurate reflection of the next GE" whereas of course local elections are always used as a protest. Still, going to be interesting.

Did you bother JSC?

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 2 2019, 09:19 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 2 2019, 10:06 PM) *
Did you bother JSC?

I always vote, it was a hard earned right to be able to engage in the process. People who can't be bothered shouldn't whine about the outcomes.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 2 2019, 09:29 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 2 2019, 10:19 PM) *
I always vote, it was a hard earned right to be able to engage in the process. People who can't be bothered shouldn't whine about the outcomes.

I agree.. for the first time in my life I couldn't bring myself to vote for any candidates though. TBH if a slug had been standing I'd have voted for that...so I did what I said I would do and wrote a few thoughts about the state of democracy. And then added a big c0ck and balls..🤣

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 2 2019, 10:31 PM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 2 2019, 01:27 PM) *
Your own vote or lack of it is of course your own personal choice. In the 2017 general election in the Newbury constituency there were 144/60,999 spoiled votes or 0.236% of votes cast. Let's see if this percentage is exceeded in these local elections but I would certainly expect some eating of words to be done if this relatively low percentage is not exceeded by some margin.

😂😂😂😂

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 3 2019, 01:58 AM

Interesting night so far.

Posted by: newres May 3 2019, 05:34 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 2 2019, 10:29 PM) *
I agree.. for the first time in my life I couldn't bring myself to vote for any candidates though. TBH if a slug had been standing I'd have voted for that...so I did what I said I would do and wrote a few thoughts about the state of democracy. And then added a big c0ck and balls..🤣

That meme had you bang to rights eh? Knobhead. laugh.gif

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 3 2019, 09:01 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 3 2019, 06:34 AM) *
That meme had you bang to rights eh? Knobhead. laugh.gif

You gave me the idea. Thanks.😂

Posted by: newres May 3 2019, 10:45 AM

Still gonna vote for this liar guys?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/03/boris-johnson-claims-voted-not-election-area

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 3 2019, 10:52 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 3 2019, 11:45 AM) *
Still gonna vote for this liar guys?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/03/boris-johnson-claims-voted-not-election-area

Or even Jeremy Corbyn,

2016: We on the Labour Benches respect the referendum result and accept that Britain must leave the European Union."

FEB 2019: "We will back a public vote in order to prevent a damaging Tory Brexit or a disastrous no deal outcome."

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 3 2019, 11:42 AM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 2 2019, 01:27 PM) *
Your own vote or lack of it is of course your own personal choice. In the 2017 general election in the Newbury constituency there were 144/60,999 spoiled votes or 0.236% of votes cast. Let's see if this percentage is exceeded in these local elections but I would certainly expect some eating of words to be done if this relatively low percentage is not exceeded by some margin.


I'm feeling quietly confident...😂

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6988225/Scores-spoiled-ballot-papers-delay-local-election-results.html



Posted by: je suis Charlie May 3 2019, 11:55 AM

I think the message is clear, May must go, Corbyn must go. The only party leader with any degree of credibility is Cable, and he's going anyway.

Posted by: newres May 3 2019, 12:24 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 3 2019, 12:55 PM) *
I think the message is clear, May must go, Corbyn must go. The only party leader with any degree of credibility is Cable, and he's going anyway.

I think that’s probably true.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 3 2019, 03:44 PM

"I have a cunning plan"

https://mobile.twitter.com/Tony_Robinson/status/1124297214472400898

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 3 2019, 05:06 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 3 2019, 04:44 PM) *
"I have a cunning plan"

https://mobile.twitter.com/Tony_Robinson/status/1124297214472400898


He was on the Labour NEC. Guess he must have a cunning plan.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 3 2019, 07:21 PM

I guess Corbyn and May will ahem... suddenly cut a deal on Brexit b4 the 23rd May... guaranteed... they won't want the inevitable kicking at the EU elections.. and this 'deal" will be a complete sell out.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 3 2019, 09:54 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 2 2019, 02:47 PM) *
Oh that's a shame as we could do with EVEN more gammon who can't figure out the quote function on here. rolleyes.gif

So... Mr Newres... I wasn't the only "knob head" as you so eloquently put it to spoil my ballot paper... u really don't understand Mr Joe bloggs.🤣

Posted by: newres May 4 2019, 04:17 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 3 2019, 10:54 PM) *
So... Mr Newres... I wasn't the only "knob head" as you so eloquently put it to spoil my ballot paper... u really don't understand Mr Joe bloggs.🤣

No, can’t work out how to start one thread instead of two and can’t put an x in a box without drawing a self portrait. laugh.gif

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 4 2019, 04:59 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 4 2019, 05:17 AM) *
No, can’t work out how to start one thread instead of two and can’t put an x in a box without drawing a self portrait. laugh.gif

That's cos I have an iPhone and it's dark in my bedroom at night and I have podgy fat fingers that mash the keyboard ..oh wait.. no that's you.😂😂😂

Posted by: newres May 4 2019, 06:53 AM

In all seriousness though, given that the swing is to the Libdems, if Brexit was a big factor in deciding how to vote, I’d say it was a very good night for Remain.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 4 2019, 07:26 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 4 2019, 07:53 AM) *
In all seriousness though, given that the swing is to the Libdems, if Brexit was a big factor in deciding how to vote, I’d say it was a very good night for Remain.

Let wait and see what happens May 23rd. Turnout will be far higher and a brexit option will be on the ballot.

Posted by: newres May 4 2019, 07:56 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 4 2019, 08:26 AM) *
Let wait and see what happens May 23rd. Turnout will be far higher and a brexit option will be on the ballot.

Did you not see the UKIP results?

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 4 2019, 08:12 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 4 2019, 08:56 AM) *
Did you not see the UKIP results?

UKIP virtually died when Nigel quit, however, saying that, their strength has always been in sending MEP's to Brussels. Now we have the Brexit party who are widely tipped to do the same. What I and others were surprised at yesterday was the almost catastrophic failure of labour to punish the Tories. The lib Dems turned out again to be the party of the protest vote with surprising results for the Indies. Mays election will be interesting to watch. I was thoroughly entertained by yesterday's events, it's an (interesting) time for politics.

Posted by: SirWilliam May 4 2019, 08:47 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 3 2019, 11:45 AM) *
Still gonna vote for this liar guys?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/03/boris-johnson-claims-voted-not-election-area


Are you implying that the others are veracious? The inability to run straight up a drainpipe seems to be de rigueur for anyone entering public office. angry.gif

Posted by: DJE May 4 2019, 09:04 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 2 2019, 08:43 AM) *
Thought of you guys:

�� Today is #LocalElections2019 day!

☑️ NORMAL PEOPLE: Go vote for who you feel will be best to represent you locally. Polls close at 10pm

☑️ GAMMON: Go on your local Facebook group and tell us you won’t vote for the main parties (despite the fact these are local elections), angrily read The Sun or Daily Mail, claim you’re voting Brexit party or UKIP, waddle along to the polling station and spoil your vote...that’ll show ‘em, wallow in your own brine, punch your keyboard, make out the media are hiding the truth, claim the BBC are biased, scrape your dried bodily fluids off your yellow vest, change your profile picture to include a union flag, or a poppy, or a soldier in silhouette [you choose], go back on Facebook and post a badly-photoshopped and pixelated meme containing factually incorrect information, then post another one as not enough people clicked like on the first one which annoyed you, ejaculate over Brexit, get angry whilst watching Question Time, go on Facebook to tell everyone you’re angry watching question time, bring Dianne Abbott into an online conversation despite the fact she’s probably irrelevant to the original post, punch keyboard again, mummy then sends you to bed.


Personally, I think children should not be allowed to post here, but as 'newres' is here I may as well respond to his/her trolling ad hominem.

'Thought of you guys' - I'm not sure you are capable of independent thought at all. You post sneeringly about about others posting a meme, but in fact the entire text of your post has been lifted, word-for-word, from a childish online magazine on Facebook.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

I guess you don't have the intellect to make your own arguments, so borrow other people's lame stereotypes instead.

You're the 'knobhead' on this forum, kiddy.

rolleyes.gif

P.S. Dianne Abbott is never relevant to anything.

Posted by: DJE May 4 2019, 09:33 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 4 2019, 07:53 AM) *
In all seriousness though, given that the swing is to the Libdems, if Brexit was a big factor in deciding how to vote, I’d say it was a very good night for Remain.


Yes, the only Remain party got far fewer seats than the Tories. What a Remainer Victory...

So far we have established that your life skills do not include wit, originality, courtesy or psephology.

Are you good at anything?

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 4 2019, 09:34 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 4 2019, 07:53 AM) *
In all seriousness though, given that the swing is to the Libdems, if Brexit was a big factor in deciding how to vote, I’d say it was a very good night for Remain.

Except of course, when you drill down into the results the lib Dems did well in some very strong brexit areas but poorly in some remain areas, what was interesting was that the polls were wrong again. Let's see how well lib Dems do in May.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 4 2019, 09:38 AM

QUOTE (DJE @ May 4 2019, 10:33 AM) *
Yes, the only Remain party got far fewer seats than the Tories. What a Remainer Victory...

So far we have established that your life skills do not include originality, courtesy, psephology or wit.

Are you good at anything?


Now there's a word we don't see used often enough, psephology. 👍

Posted by: newres May 4 2019, 10:45 AM

QUOTE (DJE @ May 4 2019, 10:04 AM) *
Personally, I think children should not be allowed to post here, but as 'newres' is here I may as well respond to his/her trolling ad hominem.

'Thought of you guys' - I'm not sure you are capable of independent thought at all. You post sneeringly about about others posting a meme, but in fact the entire text of your post has been lifted, word-for-word, from a childish online magazine on Facebook.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

I guess you don't have the intellect to make your own arguments, so borrow other people's lame stereotypes instead.

You're the 'knobhead' on this forum, kiddy.

rolleyes.gif

P.S. Dianne Abbott is never relevant to anything.

I’m honoured that you broke two years of silence to join the gammon on here and prove the accuracy of the meme by bringing Diane Abbott into it. I hope you had a tissue with you to wipe your ejaculation off the keyboard.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 4 2019, 11:19 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 4 2019, 11:45 AM) *
I’m honoured that you broke two years of silence to join the gammon on here and prove the accuracy of the meme by bringing Diane Abbott into it. I hope you had a tissue with you to wipe your ejaculation off the keyboard.

You seem to be as popular as the clap on this forum. Says it all really.

Posted by: newres May 4 2019, 11:38 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 4 2019, 12:19 PM) *
You seem to be as popular as the clap on this forum. Says it all really.

Yes. The only non Brextremist and it makes you all cross.

Posted by: DJE May 4 2019, 11:46 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 4 2019, 11:45 AM) *
I’m honoured that you broke two years of silence to join the gammon on here and prove the accuracy of the meme by bringing Diane Abbott into it. I hope you had a tissue with you to wipe your ejaculation off the keyboard.


I'm disappointed.

I hoped that by pointing out the dismal calibre of your recent posts, you'd make the effort to say something insightful, or constructve. My low opinion of you was, evidently, still too high.

If you are a child, best you go off to a Pokemon forum or whatever entertains children nowadays.

If you think are an adult.. well, good luck with that self-delusion. With your inept social skills, inability to put forward an intelligent view rather than attack other's in a childish way, (or simply cut and paste other people's views as you are incapable of formulating a mature one of your own), and your general predisposition to be an idiot, I see a mediocre future for you.

Anyway, no point in engaging with you further. If I wanted to read any more crap (I don't), I could just go to the intellect-free sources that you cut and paste from.

Bye-bye, kiddie. dry.gif

PS if there are any Remainer adults here I'm perfectly happy to listen to them. This place is a forum, after all. But not a kindergarten.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 4 2019, 12:14 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 4 2019, 12:38 PM) *
Yes. The only non Brextremist and it makes you all cross.

"Brextremist"? Oh my word...You are so funny. Anyone that doesn't agree with you is an "extremist"? I'd be looking over my shoulder all day and night if u really believe that... after all extremists often commit acts of extreme violence. I don't quite see JSC or me firebombing you...we wouldn't waste our time and lives on such a saddo. Toodlepip.

Posted by: SirWilliam May 4 2019, 12:19 PM

I'm pretty sure poor old newres is more than capable of defending his position, but why the vitriol? Disagree by all means but don't belittle yourselves by trying to sink lower than the person you are arguing with.

Posted by: newres May 4 2019, 12:52 PM

QUOTE (DJE @ May 4 2019, 12:46 PM) *
I'm disappointed.

I hoped that by pointing out the dismal calibre of your recent posts, you'd make the effort to say something insightful, or constructve. My low opinion of you was, evidently, still too high.

If you are a child, best you go off to a Pokemon forum or whatever entertains children nowadays.

If you think are an adult.. well, good luck with that self-delusion. With your inept social skills, inability to put forward an intelligent view rather than attack other's in a childish way, (or simply cut and paste other people's views as you are incapable of formulating a mature one of your own), and your general predisposition to be an idiot, I see a mediocre future for you.

Anyway, no point in engaging with you further. If I wanted to read any more crap (I don't), I could just go to the intellect-free sources that you cut and paste from.

Bye-bye, kiddie. dry.gif

PS if there are any Remainer adults here I'm perfectly happy to listen to them. This place is a forum, after all. But not a kindergarten.

Off you toddle then. Keep your tissues handy by the keyboard in case you change your mind.

Posted by: newres May 4 2019, 12:57 PM

QUOTE (SirWilliam @ May 4 2019, 01:19 PM) *
I'm pretty sure poor old newres is more than capable of defending his position, but why the vitriol? Disagree by all means but don't belittle yourselves by trying to sink lower than the person you are arguing with.

It doesn’t occur to them that I’m pretty much the only contributor with a different view and a new/returning knobhead posting and joining in the abuse dished out by the regulars is something much less than noble. And what was even more amusing was when he was responded to in kind he expressed disappointment and disappeared with his tail between his elderly legs.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 4 2019, 01:32 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 4 2019, 01:57 PM) *
It doesn’t occur to them that I’m pretty much the only contributor with a different view and a new/returning knobhead posting and joining in the abuse dished out by the regulars is something much less than noble. And what was even more amusing was when he was responded to in kind he expressed disappointment and disappeared with his tail between his elderly legs.


Aww....diddums...want a lollipop?

Posted by: James_Trinder May 5 2019, 08:16 AM

QUOTE (DJE @ May 4 2019, 12:46 PM) *
PS if there are any Remainer adults here I'm perfectly happy to listen to them. This place is a forum, after all. But not a kindergarten.


I'm intrigued as to whether you would class me as a Remainer adult in this debate.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 5 2019, 08:29 AM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 5 2019, 09:16 AM) *
I'm intrigued as to whether you would class me as a Remainer adult in this debate.

I certainly would.

Posted by: newres May 5 2019, 11:58 AM

QUOTE (James_Trinder @ May 5 2019, 09:16 AM) *
I'm intrigued as to whether you would class me as a Remainer adult in this debate.

If you baby sat them for a while they’d attack you too.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 5 2019, 12:28 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 5 2019, 12:58 PM) *
If you baby sat them for a while they’d attack you too.

Awww diddums. Feeling left out... Never mind. It will all be better soon.🤣

Posted by: Turin Machine May 5 2019, 01:58 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 5 2019, 01:28 PM) *
Awww diddums. Feeling left out... Never mind. It will all be better soon.🤣

Why? Is he going under a bus then? He makes me chuckle, JSC is a remainder but newres has to keep slagging him off. Lad doesn't know when to stop does he.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 5 2019, 02:00 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 5 2019, 12:58 PM) *
If you posted lies for a while they’d attack you too.

FTFY. 🤣

Posted by: newres May 5 2019, 02:28 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 5 2019, 01:28 PM) *
Awww diddums. Feeling left out... Never mind. It will all be better soon.🤣

Not at all. I like the fact that I’m not a reactionary old gammon and love seeing you all get triggered. DJDick was brilliant yesterday. All that Daily Mail reading exploded yesterday all over his keyboard. How does anyone get that angry just because someone has a different view?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 5 2019, 03:15 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 5 2019, 03:28 PM) *
Not at all. I like the fact that I’m not a reactionary old gammon and love seeing you all get triggered. DJDick was brilliant yesterday. All that Daily Mail reading exploded yesterday all over his keyboard. How does anyone get that angry just because someone has a different view?

The fact of the matter is Brexit is something that divides political opinions, like no other and it causes anger and resentment. The Brexit party is currently running at 30% in the polls and I would expect that figure to be nearer 40% at the EU elections. The reason... a lot of people won't say they are voting for Brexit because of people like you. They don't want to be branded a xenophobe or a racist or thick. Just so you know when you wake up on the 23rd of May to 2016 revisited.😂 People like you harden brexiteers opinions.

Posted by: newres May 5 2019, 03:17 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 5 2019, 04:15 PM) *
The fact of the matter is Brexit is something that divides political opinions, like no other and it causes anger and resentment. The Brexit party is currently running at 30% in the polls and I would expect that figure to be nearer 40% at the EU elections. The reason... a lot of people won't say they are voting for Brexit because of people like you. They don't want to be branded a xenophobe or a racist or thick. Just so you know when you wake up on the 23rd of May to 2016 revisited.😂 People like you harden brexiteers opinions.

On the other hand every poll shows 60:40 support for Remain.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 5 2019, 03:19 PM

I just like poking him with the brexit stick occasionally, just to watch him twitch.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 5 2019, 03:20 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 5 2019, 04:17 PM) *
On the other hand every poll shows 60:40 support for Remain.

I'm not disagreeing. So I guess we should just vote every 2 years?

Posted by: Turin Machine May 5 2019, 03:20 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 5 2019, 04:17 PM) *
On the other hand every poll shows 60:40 support for Remain.

You know the rule, linky thing first.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 5 2019, 03:33 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 5 2019, 04:20 PM) *
You know the rule, linky thing first.

Probably a poll conducted by the New European where the voting sample was a 1000 and all the people they contacted were from London and friends of David Lammy and Femi.🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 5 2019, 03:38 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 5 2019, 04:17 PM) *
On the other hand every poll shows 60:40 support for Remain.

Also every poll has the Brexit party well ahead. Bit of masterstroke from Nige calling it the Brexit party...I can already see the liberal tears....😂😂

Posted by: newres May 5 2019, 03:54 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 5 2019, 04:38 PM) *
Also every poll has the Brexit party well ahead. Bit of masterstroke from Nige calling it the Brexit party...I can already see the liberal tears....😂😂

It isn’t a party. It doesn’t have members. It’s very odd.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 5 2019, 04:05 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 5 2019, 04:54 PM) *
It isn’t a party. It doesn’t have members. It’s very odd.

Oh!RLY!
Brexit Party https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/11h0j_f4n6&hl=en-GB&kgs=4430f127e786c865&q=Brexit+Party&shndl=0&source=sh/x/kp&entrypoint=sh/x/kp

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 5 2019, 04:10 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 5 2019, 05:05 PM) *
Oh!RLY!
Brexit Party https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/11h0j_f4n6&hl=en-GB&kgs=4430f127e786c865&q=Brexit+Party&shndl=0&source=sh/x/kp&entrypoint=sh/x/kp


Bless him... he is a bit out of touch...can't wait to see Juncker and Verhoftwats face when he returns with more EU sceptics than ever... 🤣🤣

Posted by: newres May 5 2019, 04:16 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 5 2019, 05:05 PM) *
Oh!RLY!
Brexit Party https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/11h0j_f4n6&hl=en-GB&kgs=4430f127e786c865&q=Brexit+Party&shndl=0&source=sh/x/kp&entrypoint=sh/x/kp

Go and join it then. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 5 2019, 04:31 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 5 2019, 05:16 PM) *
Go and join it then. rolleyes.gif

Already have chap...😂 Go Nige!

Posted by: Turin Machine May 5 2019, 04:57 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 5 2019, 05:31 PM) *
Already have chap...😂 Go Nige!

What? The not a party party? Really? The party that isn't a party? Wow! Oh newres, please don't ever stop, you're too precious! 😂😂😂

Posted by: Turin Machine May 5 2019, 05:01 PM

It's not surprising that if newres considers himself to be the remainer creme da la crème that most of them were to lazy / stupid / apathetic to find their way to a simple petition. 😅

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 5 2019, 05:46 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 5 2019, 06:01 PM) *
It's not surprising that if newres considers himself to be the remainer creme da la crème that most of them were to lazy / stupid / apathetic to find their way to a simple petition. 😅

😂 You have to give him some respect... if I kept on being proved wrong I may have given up.. not sure if he is just a WUM or incredibly stupid. Probably the latter...

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 5 2019, 06:01 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/Europarl_EN/status/1124420906875523073

😂😂😂

Posted by: newres May 5 2019, 07:56 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 5 2019, 05:31 PM) *
Already have chap...😂 Go Nige!

No you didn’t. Are you stupid or lying as it doesn’t have members. You may have donated but you can’t become a member.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 5 2019, 08:11 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 5 2019, 08:56 PM) *
No you didn’t. Are you stupid or lying as it doesn’t have members. You may have donated but you can’t become a member.

Semantics.... the party was only launched weeks ago..it takes time to get the infrastructure together to deal with hundreds of thousands joining... anyway talking of members...😂😂

Posted by: Turin Machine May 5 2019, 09:23 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 5 2019, 08:56 PM) *
No you didn’t. Are you stupid or lying as it doesn’t have members. You may have donated but you can’t become a member.

And you said it wasn't a party.

Posted by: newres May 6 2019, 05:47 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 5 2019, 10:23 PM) *
And you said it wasn't a party.

It’s a single issue lobby. Even more so than UKIP. If we get to a general election it will merely split the Tory vote. There’s no evidence of it attracting Labour voters.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 6 2019, 07:10 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 06:47 AM) *
It’s a single issue lobby. Even more so than UKIP. If we get to a general election it will merely split the Tory vote. There’s no evidence of it attracting Labour voters.

Yeah no chance of any people in Labour areas which were 70% brexit at the 2016 election...voting for the Brexit party...😂😂😂 Do you actually think before you come out with the effluent that you type?

Posted by: Biker1 May 6 2019, 07:36 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 5 2019, 03:28 PM) *
DJDick was brilliant yesterday. All that Daily Mail reading exploded yesterday all over his keyboard. How does anyone get that angry just because someone has a different view?

He didn't get that angry "just because you have a different view".
If you read his post....................
"With your inept social skills, inability to put forward an intelligent view rather than attack other's in a childish way, and your general predisposition to be an idiot."
He also said....
"If there are any Remainer adults here I'm perfectly happy to listen to them."

So, it appears it is your attitude and rudeness that prevents him and many others from posting their views on here for MATURE debate.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 6 2019, 08:20 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 06:47 AM) *
It’s a single issue lobby. Even more so than UKIP. If we get to a general election it will merely split the Tory vote. There’s no evidence of it attracting Labour voters.

It's a party, look, they even left you a hidden clue, they called it the Brexit Party. Tricky to find I know but then that's the trouble with dem pesky little brexiteers, sneaky like weasels.

Posted by: newres May 6 2019, 08:25 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 6 2019, 08:10 AM) *
Yeah no chance of any people in Labour areas which were 70% brexit at the 2016 election...voting for the Brexit party...������ Do you actually think before you come out with the effluent that you type?

Which areas were “70% Brexit”? Very few, besides which it doesn’t mean people will vote for a party in a general election that has just one policy. They aren’t all stupid racists.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 6 2019, 08:34 AM

Aww look, he called it a party, how sweet.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 6 2019, 08:34 AM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 09:25 AM) *
Which areas were “70% Brexit”? Very few, besides which it doesn’t mean people will vote for a party in a general election that has just one policy. They aren’t all stupid racists.


I see you modified your post after finding out some areas were over 70 percent...😂

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2019/01/14/highest-leave-and-remain-votes-in-2016-eu-referendum/

And then got all upset and called everyone a racist again...🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: Turin Machine May 6 2019, 08:47 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 6 2019, 09:34 AM) *
I see you modified your post after finding out some areas were over 70 percent...😂

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2019/01/14/highest-leave-and-remain-votes-in-2016-eu-referendum/

And then got all upset and called everyone a racist again...🤣🤣🤣

See! Learn something every day, 78.6% of people in Lambeth are racists! Who'd a thunk that? Probably a nazi stronghold as well.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 6 2019, 09:00 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 4 2019, 09:12 AM) *
UKIP virtually died when Nigel quit, however, saying that, their strength has always been in sending MEP's to Brussels. Now we have the Brexit party who are widely tipped to do the same. What I and others were surprised at yesterday was the almost catastrophic failure of labour to punish the Tories. The lib Dems turned out again to be the party of the protest vote with surprising results for the Indies. Mays election will be interesting to watch. I was thoroughly entertained by yesterday's events, it's an (interesting) time for politics.

Actually, having looked at the results your assertion re ukip is only partially correct when compared to 2015. Compared to 2018 the Conservative and Labour vote share fell equally by 7%, while UKIP gained 1%.

Given the enormous swing to the independents and the fact that Labour came out for a second referendum before the polls, this seems more like an anti-politician result than anything obviously Brexity.

Posted by: newres May 6 2019, 12:37 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 6 2019, 09:34 AM) *
I see you modified your post after finding out some areas were over 70 percent...😂

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2019/01/14/highest-leave-and-remain-votes-in-2016-eu-referendum/

And then got all upset and called everyone a racist again...🤣🤣🤣

I said the opposite.


Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 6 2019, 01:07 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 01:37 PM) *
I said the opposite.

You intimated a large percentage were.

Posted by: newres May 6 2019, 01:39 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 6 2019, 02:07 PM) *
You intimated a large percentage were.

I didn’t, but to return to the subject, in polls I’ve seen the Labour vote is holding up. In my opinion if they offered a confirmatory vote they’d leave UKIP for dead. It’s such a shame because despite what you choose to believe, the overwhelming majority of members and a clear majority of Labour voters are Remain.

Posted by: newres May 6 2019, 01:48 PM

Most people want to Remain now.

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-there-was-a-referendum-on-britains-membership-of-the-eu-how-would-you-vote-2/

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 6 2019, 01:57 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 02:48 PM) *
Most people want to Remain now.

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-there-was-a-referendum-on-britains-membership-of-the-eu-how-would-you-vote-2/


They probably do. They have just given up hope of what they asked the government to do being enacted. Personally I believe this was our last chance. When the chickens come home to roost we will know who to blame....

Posted by: newres May 6 2019, 02:25 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 6 2019, 02:57 PM) *
They probably do. They have just given up hope of what they asked the government to do being enacted. Personally I believe this was our last chance. When the chickens come home to roost we will know who to blame....

What’s happened is that it’s become apparent that what was promised wasn’t deliverable. There was no access to the free market without free movement. Cameron warned of this but he wasn’t believed. The chickens have come home to roost already and that’s why we’re where we are.

I’m accused of childishness but what is more childish than saying NO DEAL, JUST LEAVE when it’s become apparent that the promises can’t be fulfilled?


Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 6 2019, 03:07 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 03:25 PM) *
What’s happened is that it’s become apparent that what was promised wasn’t deliverable. There was no access to the free market without free movement. Cameron warned of this but he wasn’t believed. The chickens have come home to roost already and that’s why we’re where we are.

I’m accused of childishness but what is more childish than saying NO DEAL, JUST LEAVE when it’s become apparent that the promises can’t be fulfilled?

Because that is what was voted on? I don't remember anything being on the ballot apart from stay or leave... not degrees of either. Would you at least admit then that the actual question was wrong to start with. Should it have just been stay or stay? WHAT A CROCK of EFFLUENT you come up with. PS.. I can use shouty CAPS LOCK as well.😂😂😂😊

Posted by: Turin Machine May 6 2019, 04:16 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 02:48 PM) *
Most people want to Remain now.

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-there-was-a-referendum-on-britains-membership-of-the-eu-how-would-you-vote-2/

"Field work dates: 13 February 2012 - 18 "

Hardly up to date is it.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 6 2019, 04:17 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 02:39 PM) *
I didn’t, but to return to the subject, in polls I’ve seen the Labour vote is holding up. In my opinion if they offered a confirmatory vote they’d leave UKIP for dead. It’s such a shame because despite what you choose to believe, the overwhelming majority of members and a clear majority of Labour voters are Remain.

Show me one of these poll please, like you I can't be bothered to check for myself.

Posted by: Turin Machine May 6 2019, 04:20 PM

Germany about to tip into recession, France following it, Italy and Greece with basket case economies and people still think it's a great idea to shackle us to to the rotting corpse of a failed experiment.

Posted by: newres May 6 2019, 04:48 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 6 2019, 05:20 PM) *
Germany about to tip into recession, France following it, Italy and Greece with basket case economies and people still think it's a great idea to shackle us to to the rotting corpse of a failed experiment.

That’s capitalism for you.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 6 2019, 04:49 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 6 2019, 05:20 PM) *
Germany about to tip into recession, France following it, Italy and Greece with basket case economies and people still think it's a great idea to shackle us to to the rotting corpse of a failed experiment.

And the actual racist "Le Pen" is actually ahead of Macron in the polls..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1SB0O8

When you keep calling everyone a racist or a nazi it ceases to have meaning... still you go newres...you vote for Verhoftwat and co...vote for a federal Europe controlled by Germany and with an EU Army. You go... 🙄



Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 6 2019, 04:49 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 05:48 PM) *
That’s capitalism for you.

Would you prefer communism?

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 6 2019, 06:28 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 05:48 PM) *
That’s capitalism for you.

No, it's the EU for you, stifling economies 'till they choke. But hey it's what you want. stagnation.

Posted by: je suis Charlie May 6 2019, 06:31 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 6 2019, 05:49 PM) *
And the actual racist "Le Pen" is actually ahead of Macron in the polls..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1SB0O8

When you keep calling everyone a racist or a nazi it ceases to have meaning... still you go newres...you vote for Verhoftwat and co...vote for a federal Europe controlled by Germany and with an EU Army. You go... 🙄

It's hilarious that the arch leftie Corbyn still hates the EU with a passion, still, let's follow Jeremy, No wait , Vince!, no wait! Errr?

Posted by: Turin Machine May 6 2019, 06:51 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 05:48 PM) *
That’s capitalism for you.

No you numbty, that's the EU for you. Spot the difference anyone?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 6 2019, 07:07 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 6 2019, 07:31 PM) *
It's hilarious that the arch leftie Corbyn still hates the EU with a passion, still, let's follow Jeremy, No wait , Vince!, no wait! Errr?


Newres reminds me of CNN.... perhaps he should apply for a job...😂😂😂

Posted by: newres May 6 2019, 07:31 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 6 2019, 07:51 PM) *
No you numbty, that's the EU for you. Spot the difference anyone?

What, so the recessions that all capitalist economies suffer are the fault of the EU? Oh dearie me. So were the WU responsible for the crash in 2008?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome May 6 2019, 08:26 PM

QUOTE (newres @ May 6 2019, 08:31 PM) *
What, so the recessions that all capitalist economies suffer are the fault of the EU? Oh dearie me. So were the WU responsible for the crash in 2008?

Not sure who the WU are but the cause of the recession was a bunch of crooked bankers dealing in dodgy derivatives. That's not capitalism. It's criminality.

Posted by: newres May 7 2019, 08:05 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 6 2019, 09:26 PM) *
Not sure who the WU are but the cause of the recession was a bunch of crooked bankers dealing in dodgy derivatives. That's not capitalism. It's criminality.

Oh, I thought it was Gordon Brown? laugh.gif

Posted by: Strafin May 7 2019, 08:06 AM

For the record I'm a remainer. I was quite adamant that we should have been given a vote on it, and planned to vote leave, but something stopped me the night before the vote. So I totally understand the Brexit point if view. However, that vote was three years ago and since then we have seen the shambles unfold and one area where I think we all can agree, is that we are not getting anything like what we were promised. So should we revisit the vote now we know the truth? In my opinion yes, it's far too important to just let it go and I will continue to push for a second referendum, not because I didn't like the result of the first one, but because I don't like what has happened since. I try to take on board everyone's views, and opinions and I try not to get aggressive or upset by those who differ.

However in 3 years I haven't heard a single good, tangible benefit for leaving so I do get frustrated that the whole thing seems very tribal. When people say lets just leave with no deal, I question if they understand what that really means, ad mostly they don't. So we have a real problem and it is bound to cause people to get rowdy with each other. Newres didn't start off being the way they are, he's become frustrated with all the arguing and to be fair, you lot haven't been very nice to him either. I think some of you need to look at your posts and question whether you really think you are being reasonable and forming a valid opinion. Or playing to the mob mentality. Perhaps we need to call a forum truce, draw a line under what's gone and start again? We are all just people making our way through our lives and our journeys are all different.

Posted by: Strafin May 7 2019, 08:08 AM

And this he said she said nonsense is getting boring. You can't join the Brexit party as a member, but it is a political party. So you both made a good point.

Posted by: SirWilliam May 7 2019, 08:38 AM

QUOTE (Strafin @ May 7 2019, 09:06 AM) *
For the record I'm a remainer. I was quite adamant that we should have been given a vote on it, and planned to vote leave, but something stopped me the night before the vote. So I totally understand the Brexit point if view. However, that vote was three years ago and since then we have seen the shambles unfold and one area where I think we all can agree, is that we are not getting anything like what we were promised. So should we revisit the vote now we know the truth? In my opinion yes, it's far too important to just let it go and I will continue to push for a second referendum, not because I didn't like the result of the first one, but because I don't like what has happened since. I try to take on board everyone's views, and opinions and I try not to get aggressive or upset by those who differ.

However in 3 years I haven't heard a single good, tangible benefit for leaving so I do get frustrated that the whole thing seems very tribal. When people say lets just leave with no deal, I question if they understand what that really means, ad mostly they don't. So we have a real problem and it is bound to cause people to get rowdy with each other. Newres didn't start off being the way they are, he's become frustrated with all the arguing and to be fair, you lot haven't been very nice to him either. I think some of you need to look at your posts and question whether you really think you are being reasonable and forming a valid opinion. Or playing to the mob mentality. Perhaps we need to call a forum truce, draw a line under what's gone and start again? We are all just people making our way through our lives and our journeys are all different.


I agree, but I am coming from the other direction. I voted leave but having witnessed the shambolic behaviour of the very people who would be in charge had we just left on the 29th March I am inclined to now think if we remained a fully paid up member it would not be a bad thing. My concern with another plebiscite is a similar 50/50 vote, (approx), which will solve nothing. Perhaps we need someone to stand up and say "f**k democracy we are staying in" because we are never going to agree this thing that history will call the "Cameron Cockup". angry.gif

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