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Posted by: GMR Jun 27 2010, 09:16 AM

I predict that we will win by 2 clear goals and one of the goals that will be scored by England will be by a Spurs player.

Posted by: Strafin Jun 27 2010, 11:03 AM

I think 3-2 to England, with Rooney opening, then Gerrard and then the Germans. They will equalise after half time and then we will get one more before extra time.

Posted by: Jobet Jun 27 2010, 11:38 AM

Whatever the result.....I am sure our lads will do their very best . Here's hoping the end result is a win for us

Posted by: JeffG Jun 27 2010, 01:34 PM

Dream on.

Posted by: Strafin Jun 27 2010, 04:35 PM

No-one predicted that.

Posted by: GMR Jun 27 2010, 04:46 PM

What a load of crap. Bad substitution, bad play, and bad selection. It doesn’t matter if that goal was allowed or not, we were crap and didn’t deserve to win. That has got to be one of the worst England matches for ages.

On top of that Germany weren't brilliant.

England didn't do their best, but their worst. What a load of crap.

Posted by: GMR Jun 27 2010, 04:47 PM

Bad team selection, bad substitution, bad everything.

Posted by: Jobet Jun 27 2010, 04:55 PM

England were absolutely useless. Very bad performance for a game that could have meant so much to us.

Posted by: dannyboy Jun 27 2010, 06:00 PM

ahh, hindsight.................

Posted by: GMR Jun 27 2010, 06:10 PM

Hindsight always know better.

Posted by: GMR Jun 27 2010, 06:11 PM

I don't think they were even that good.

Posted by: user23 Jun 27 2010, 07:17 PM

Can you tell me which team had the most possession, the most shots, the most shots on target, the most corners and conceded the least number of fouls?

Clue: One team had all of these and it's not Germany.

Posted by: Exhausted Jun 27 2010, 07:24 PM

Who was it then, was it the losers.

Posted by: GMR Jun 27 2010, 08:07 PM

Does it make any difference? We lost. Having all the possession or corners doesn't mean sod all if you can't win the game.

You are saying that Germany had less of the possession, fewer corners and more fouls.... so what! THEY BLOODY WON!!!!!

Posted by: On the edge Jun 27 2010, 09:02 PM

Don't they always...

Posted by: Strafin Jun 27 2010, 10:34 PM

I think the performance from England was better than recent games, I think the disallowed goal really fired them up and they were fighting hard. The defence was appaling though, Upson and Terry were just awful. Milner wasn't fed as much as he should have been but then in the second half they all just seemed to forget themselves. I don't blame Fabio but maybe we need an English manager to stop dissent within the team, but the players really need to take a long hard look at themselves after this.

Posted by: Andy Jun 27 2010, 11:45 PM

Agree...I think the "non" goal was a real turning point, as I thought we were on the up at that point and looking like we could start to dominate a bit, which could well of changed the whole game with the invigorated confidence and momentum that would probably have come.

Posted by: Andy1 Jun 28 2010, 08:28 AM

They played as they have played through out the World Cup only this time they met a much better team. Rooney should have been on the bench based on his performance, Terry made school boy errors and Gerard practically wasted every ball he got. The only turning point from the game will hopefully be a massive shake up a the FA

Posted by: Iommi Jun 28 2010, 09:18 AM

I'd go along with that, except to say a defence can be made to look bad if they are not protected by the midfield.

We depended on Rooney and when he didn't turn up, we had no plan B.

The only problem is we rate our players higher than they deserve. We are 16th best in the world, that's about right.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 28 2010, 09:35 AM

Apparently David Blaines a bit cross. He is not happy that Rooney has broken his record for sitting in a box for 43 days doing absouletly nothing.....

Posted by: Bloggo Jun 28 2010, 10:09 AM

Yes, I guess we are all feeling pretty let down by such a series of lack-lustre, unamaginative and feeble outings by our country's team.
Something is seriously wrong with their attitude in representing England. It is like they don't really care.

Posted by: oldharry Jun 28 2010, 12:25 PM

Excellent England performance at Old Trafford, though.

Posted by: Bill1 Jun 28 2010, 12:44 PM

Totaaly agree Andy.

I think GMR and others were OTT in their criticisms, which might be down to the fact that they posted almost immediately after the match.

Not that I ever want England to lose, but if they have to I just wish it could be without controversy.

Wake up FIFA use the technology available

Posted by: Iommi Jun 28 2010, 01:18 PM

I'd rather go out now, than in the semi, or even final game.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 28 2010, 01:32 PM

We are rubbish at football. It's as simple as that. Our players are:

a: Overpaid
b: Overhyped

Fabio should get rid of the lot of them. I'd have rather seen the U21 squad play with a bit of passion than that dross. 1 yellow card somes it up for me. No commitment. Just wanted to get away with their 'WAGS' on holiday somewhere expensive. They should be boo'd by all supporters when they return to there clubs. I hope most of them disappear abroad somewhere. They are wecome to them.

Posted by: Roost Jun 28 2010, 01:58 PM

Maybe the squad need a new coach?






Although I did hear they've already got one.....





It's picking them up from the airport.....!

Posted by: Bill1 Jun 28 2010, 05:32 PM

The money they earn on International duty all goes to a charity set up by Becks and JT.

Posted by: GMR Jun 28 2010, 06:31 PM

But it wasn't at the world cup

Posted by: Strafin Jun 28 2010, 06:31 PM

I think the point about pay though is that they score for their clubs week in and week out when they are getting all the bonuses, they don't seem interested in doing it for free.

Posted by: GMR Jun 28 2010, 06:36 PM

They get paid for England, plus bonuses.

Posted by: Iommi Jun 28 2010, 06:48 PM

Apparently, England players donate all their pay for international matches to charitable causes via the Team England Footballers Charity. I don't think there was a single person on the pitch that didn't want to win.

Posted by: GMR Jun 28 2010, 06:49 PM

That is interesting, it is the first time I've heard of that. Do they do that because they want to, or because they are forced to?

Posted by: Iommi Jun 28 2010, 06:53 PM

They've been doing it for several years now, which includes the time they qualified for the 2010 WC.

Posted by: GMR Jun 28 2010, 07:00 PM

OK, thanks. You learn something every day.

Posted by: JeffG Jun 28 2010, 08:41 PM

Does being taken on a free safari count as a taxable perk?

Posted by: GMR Jun 28 2010, 08:58 PM

Probably

Posted by: Bill1 Jun 29 2010, 11:15 AM

Does GMR have me on "ignore" ?

Posted by: GMR Jun 29 2010, 05:00 PM

Of course not, but I don't always read all the posts. So if I've missed anything you said, or anybody said, I apologise.... but to read every post on here I wouldn't get off. This is not the only forum i am on, plus I run my own (and I don't always read all those posts either - that is why I have moderators)

Posted by: Bill1 Jun 29 2010, 05:08 PM

That's a relief

How would you IF Harry became next England manager should Fabio get the boot?

Posted by: GMR Jun 29 2010, 05:13 PM

That is why I hope Fabio doesn't lose his job. I don't want Harry to go, in fact I wouldn't be very happy. Just when we are doing so well.

Posted by: Bill1 Jun 29 2010, 05:33 PM

Oh how selfish of you

Posted by: GMR Jun 29 2010, 06:23 PM

I agree.... however, we could ask the Chelsea manager, after all, you wouldn't mind....... would you?

Posted by: Bill1 Jun 30 2010, 11:48 AM

If I thought he was the best man for the job (which I don't, I think Redknapp or Hodgson is as I feel the England manager should be English) I wouldn't mind one bit.

I'm a country first, club second kinda guy.

Posted by: GMR Jun 30 2010, 04:20 PM

I would say country first if they were capable of winning something. I'll go for Hodgson... a better manager FOR ENGLAND

Posted by: Bill1 Jun 30 2010, 04:38 PM

I think Liverpool have snapped him up.

Posted by: GMR Jun 30 2010, 04:57 PM

I've heard that, but I've also heard that Hodgson is also waiting to hear from England... and talking of snapping up... we snapped up Harry.

Posted by: Iommi Jun 30 2010, 05:40 PM

The only thing that interests me about international footer, is the excuse to go for a pint, and I don't need many of them either.

I think international football, especially the type we dish out, is pants. Played by a bunch of largely illiterate, unpatriotic, perfidious, egotistical nob-heads.

League football every time for me. I'd rather a foreign team win an international match if it contained more of my league team's players than 'Engerland'. In this day and age, internationals seem meaningless, what with the 'open boarder' attitudes.

Let's be very pleased about one thing this World Cup. No reported riots involving football thugs.

Posted by: Strafin Jun 30 2010, 08:13 PM

I think sacking Fabio would be a mistake every time we lose a big competition we sack the manager, he's only had 41 days with the team (excluding flying back) and that's just not enough. A team needs consistency, and in any case I blame the players on this occaision.

Posted by: GMR Jun 30 2010, 08:19 PM

I agree... we should give in more of a chance. Also, like my team, your team is managed by somebody who might get called up to manage England. So I am with you Strafin. But in your case it is wasted, if he doesn’t get the England job he’ll be the next Liverpool’s manager.

Posted by: Bill1 Jul 1 2010, 11:48 AM

Woy is now confirmed as replacing Wafa at Liverpool, will Gewward and Towwes stay I wonder.......

Posted by: GMR Jul 1 2010, 04:53 PM

No, they will go. I will be surprised if they stay.

Posted by: Strafin Jul 1 2010, 06:28 PM

I think Hodgson is the wrong choice for Liverpool. Leave him where he is!

Posted by: GMR Jul 1 2010, 06:47 PM

I agree.... let him take over England instead.