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Irish John
post Jul 15 2010, 09:00 AM
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Those with far too much time on their Facebook twittering hands appear to be promoting a mentally unstable deadman to cult hero status. Facebook are refusing to delete said deadman's account. However despite Facebook's shameless self promotion (of which they need little anyway) why would a country get behind another pathetic gunmen in a long line of pathetic english gunmen? Would the same people be praising the Hungerford massacre had it happened now? Discuss...
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dannyboy
post Jul 16 2010, 09:35 AM
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He use to make his 4 year old daughter sit outside with a plaque around her neck saying 'i have been naughty' for 2 hours which is just awful

It could have been worse - he could have sent her to sew the soles on cheap trainers of forage in the local tip. But that is okay though, isn't it?
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 16 2010, 10:35 AM) *
He use to make his 4 year old daughter sit outside with a plaque around her neck saying 'i have been naughty' for 2 hours which is just awful

It could have been worse - he could have sent her to sew the soles on cheap trainers of forage in the local tip. But that is okay though, isn't it?


In another country I wouldn't of been surprised dry.gif
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jul 16 2010, 11:10 AM) *
In another country I wouldn't of been surprised dry.gif

In other countries you can got to stonings too.
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 16 2010, 11:30 AM) *
In other countries you can got to stonings too.


Eh?
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jul 16 2010, 11:47 AM) *
Eh?

You expressed a wish to stone to death an ill man. In other countries you'd be able to go and watch such a spectacle.
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 16 2010, 11:54 AM) *
You expressed a wish to stone to death an ill man. In other countries you'd be able to go and watch such a spectacle.


Ah, so the Yorkshire Ripper is ill is he....mmmmm
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post Jul 16 2010, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jul 16 2010, 11:58 AM) *
Ah, so the Yorkshire Ripper is ill is he....mmmmm

Broadmoor is a hospital.

He has Schizophrenia and has been recieving medical treatment for this for some years. His 'progress' with this treatment was the basis of his appeal. But, if you had read the article, you'd know this.
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post Jul 16 2010, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 16 2010, 12:47 PM) *
Broadmoor is a hospital.

He has Schizophrenia and has been recieving medical treatment for this for some years. His 'progress' with this treatment was the basis of his appeal. But, if you had read the article, you'd know this.


I have read the article (i think YOU need to still read up on what we were discussing on the other thread). I do know where he is.
I don't care what he apparantly has. He didn't have schizophrenia when he was a working lad, getting married, living a 'normal' life - but he suddenly did when in court for 13 murders. Anyone can say they hear voices and god told them to kill if trying to escape a murder charge.
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post Jul 16 2010, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jul 16 2010, 01:17 PM) *
He didn't have schizophrenia when he was a working lad, getting married, living a 'normal' life

How do you know?
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post Jul 16 2010, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jul 16 2010, 01:19 PM) *
How do you know?


Because surely an illness so serious would have been spotted? Mmmm I don't know. I am guessing. What I am saying is he suddenly declared he heard voices and God told him to kill the women when he was caught. You didn't hear him asking for help before he deicded to kill the women.
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post Jul 16 2010, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jul 16 2010, 01:27 PM) *
Because surely an illness so serious would have been spotted? Mmmm I don't know. I am guessing. What I am saying is he suddenly declared he heard voices and God told him to kill the women when he was caught. You didn't hear him asking for help before he deicded to kill the women.

He is obviously a very sick person who brutally killed 13 women, some with a screw driver and then mutilated their bodies. His behaviour was inhuman.
Whether or not he has responded to "treatment" or not he is a very real and potential danger to the public and as such should be locked up for life.
I would have voted to hang him.


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post Jul 16 2010, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 16 2010, 01:35 PM) *
He is obviously a very sick person who brutally killed 13 women, some with a screw driver and then mutilated their bodies. His behaviour was inhuman.
Whether or not he has responded to "treatment" or not he is a very real and potential danger to the public and as such should be locked up for life.
I would have voted to hang him.


Agree, he was sick whatever way someone wants to put it.
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post Jul 16 2010, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jul 16 2010, 01:39 PM) *
Agree, he was sick whatever way someone wants to put it.


hmmmm...."was sick". Freudian slip maybe? wink.gif


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post Jul 16 2010, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 16 2010, 02:06 PM) *
hmmmm...."was sick". Freudian slip maybe? wink.gif


Is sick!!!

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post Jul 16 2010, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jul 16 2010, 02:11 PM) *
Is sick!!!


Oh...and he was diagnosed as suffering from schizophrenia soon after his incaceration.

There are many schizophrenics who live "normal" lives in society with the help of controlling drugs.l


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post Jul 16 2010, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 16 2010, 02:19 PM) *
Oh...and he was diagnosed as suffering from schizophrenia soon after his incaceration.

There are many schizophrenics who live "normal" lives in society with the help of controlling drugs.l

True, however some "forget" to take their medication and revert back to their unstable position. I believe someone was killed recently in these circumstances.
I don't think it would be in the public interest to take the risk with Sutcliff.


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