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Mr Brown
post Sep 25 2020, 06:54 AM
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Does any Government sponsored IT development ever work properly? It seems that the much delayed App doesn’t work on older (in some cases by 18 months) ‘Smart’ phones. Still, it’s only little people disadvantaged by this. Government for the few takes off!
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SirWilliam
post Sep 29 2020, 01:03 PM
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This article has some interesting facts for those who think the end is nigh.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/how-...19-coronavirus/

For those who can't read, the global deaths form corona virus are on a par with suicide, yet very little is done to prevent such tragedies.


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post Sep 29 2020, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Sep 29 2020, 02:03 PM) *
This article has some interesting facts for those who think the end is nigh.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/how-...19-coronavirus/

For those who can't read, the global deaths form corona virus are on a par with suicide, yet very little is done to prevent such tragedies.

Covid 19 is being kept in check by social distancing measures. Cases were doubling every 2/3 days in March. Think what the cases and deaths would be without those measures.
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SirWilliam
post Sep 29 2020, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Sep 29 2020, 02:28 PM) *
Covid 19 is being kept in check by social distancing measures. Cases were doubling every 2/3 days in March. Think what the cases and deaths would be without those measures.


Or one could equally argue that the infection rate would have been the same had we done nothing. Without a viable control model we are reliant on a speculative assessment. Any virus is completely unpredictable in it's "life cycle" owing to it's ability to mutate at whim, which is one of the reasons it is so difficult to produce a viable vaccine. The important figure is the fatality rate per 100 infected cases and that is below 1%. Highly distressing for those involved but is it really worth the hysteria when placed alongside other terminal conditions? I agree social distancing is beneficial, but surely it doesn't take a master's degree to work that one out?
Smoking kills, yet they still sell cigarettes, even though their use is a personal choice, so why haven't they banned them completely, or at least legislated against their use in public?


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post Sep 30 2020, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Sep 29 2020, 06:34 PM) *
Or one could equally argue that the infection rate would have been the same had we done nothing. Without a viable control model we are reliant on a speculative assessment. Any virus is completely unpredictable in it's "life cycle" owing to it's ability to mutate at whim, which is one of the reasons it is so difficult to produce a viable vaccine. The important figure is the fatality rate per 100 infected cases and that is below 1%. Highly distressing for those involved but is it really worth the hysteria when placed alongside other terminal conditions? I agree social distancing is beneficial, but surely it doesn't take a master's degree to work that one out?
Smoking kills, yet they still sell cigarettes, even though their use is a personal choice, so why haven't they banned them completely, or at least legislated against their use in public?

Hard to argue with some of your points but it's hard to think it wasn't the total lockdown that all but eradicated infections.

You say social distancing is obvious, but it isn't to most. Especially when drinking. We had a spike after VE Day in some areas. Around 50% of people I pass make to effort to keep 2 metres. If they aren't told what to do, they're too stupid to do the right thing.

On a slightly different subject. I had a chuckle on Facebook the other day when somebody blamed the "educated middle class" for panic buying.
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