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Dross in the Newbury Weekly News, Can we even call this a newsaper anymore? |
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Jan 10 2013, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (theone09 @ Jan 10 2013, 03:14 PM) I see there were a few spelling mistakes again this week too... even on the front page! They could capitalise on the entertainment value and give a small prize for the reader who spots the most! Still, its good to know our local paper is as good as a prestigious national one; the Guardian.
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Jan 10 2013, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 10 2013, 05:05 PM) As long as they have a monopoly they can dictate to us. Competition is what papers need to re-look at themselves again and the area they serve. # Couldn't agree more. So then, if we want something different, more campaigning, more lively then its up to us. There are alternatives, but they would need to see a market. Nationwide traditional local papers are in decline, quite rapid in most places. This means being left with just the free ad sheets. There are some micro papers, some of which thrive; particularly those who want to promote their own opinions and messages. Is that a venture our wannabe local politicians could consider?
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Jan 10 2013, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 10 2013, 05:42 PM) # Couldn't agree more. So then, if we want something different, more campaigning, more lively then its up to us. There are alternatives, but they would need to see a market. Nationwide traditional local papers are in decline, quite rapid in most places. This means being left with just the free ad sheets. There are some micro papers, some of which thrive; particularly those who want to promote their own opinions and messages. Is that a venture our wannabe local politicians could consider? I agree, but society is changing and more and more is put on the Internet. Eventually our news will be got totally from the Internet, including local news. That will be the individuals power over monopolies.
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Jan 10 2013, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 10 2013, 07:01 PM) I see the likely effect of the Internet is to inhibit 'quality news', not encourage it. I also disagree with Blake's rather over-the-top condemnation of the paper. The NWN usually contains the things I would expect from a paper covering what it does.
And Blake can be only one of a very small band of people that 'want' the unreliable TV listings back. We have digital TV these days. I disagree; there is poor quality newspapers out there at the moment. Granted that Internet will be a mixture of poor and good quality, but the good quality will always be there.
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Jan 10 2013, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 10 2013, 08:15 PM) I think Blake is being a bit unfair. As some have already pointed out there was very little going on last week bar NYE. A good journalist can always find worthy news, no matter how hard it is hidden.
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Jan 10 2013, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 10 2013, 08:19 PM) I disagree; there is poor quality newspapers out there at the moment. Granted that Internet will be a mixture of poor and good quality, but the good quality will always be there. But the Internet puts the control of the journalistic integrity in the hands of the reader. How does one decide what is good and what is not. There's no quality control. People want to read what they like, not what is necessarily true. QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 10 2013, 08:21 PM) A good journalist can always find worthy news, no matter how hard it is hidden. Worthy news is in the eyes of the beholder. The 'Christmas Editions' are notorious for the paucity of news.
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Jan 10 2013, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 10 2013, 08:21 PM) A good journalist can always find worthy news, no matter how hard it is hidden. Do you HONESTLY believe that..
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Jan 10 2013, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 10 2013, 08:56 PM) But the Internet puts the control of the journalistic integrity in the hands of the reader. As in now; what makes you think the Newspaper's are any better judge of their journalists? There are thousands, if not millions of readers who are good judges. QUOTE How does one decide what is good and what is not. By using ones intelligence; granted not are all good judges, as not all paper editors are good judges. QUOTE There's no quality control. People want to read what they like, not what is necessarily true. Isn't that why we have specialist papers; i.e. Times, Telegraph, Mail (Tory), Guardian (Labour, Lib), Mirror (Labour). Would you say the Tabloid press have quality control? Or do they produce a paper that is mostly made up to sell their papers? QUOTE Worthy news is in the eyes of the beholder. The 'Christmas Editions' are notorious for the paucity of news. And it is those eyes that the papers write for; not the truth.
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Jan 10 2013, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Jan 10 2013, 08:59 PM) Do you HONESTLY believe that.. That is not what I believe but has often been said by Journalists; at least the old school said it. Maybe it is different now.
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Jan 10 2013, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 10 2013, 09:08 PM) As in now; what makes you think the Newspaper's are any better judge of their journalists? There are thousands, if not millions of readers who are good judges.
By using ones intelligence; granted not are all good judges, as not all paper editors are good judges.
Isn't that why we have specialist papers; i.e. Times, Telegraph, Mail (Tory), Guardian (Labour, Lib), Mirror (Labour). Would you say the Tabloid press have quality control? Or do they produce a paper that is mostly made up to sell their papers?
And it is those eyes that the papers write for; not the truth. A paper has a reputation to protect, and while some have come under a lot of justifiable criticism, that is nothing compared to the rubbish you can read on the Internet. Here's another point, if there are millions of good judges of journalistic integrity, why was the NotW and The Sun the most popular papers? I think most 'sensible' people would acknowledge that they are more likely to get a better standard of journalism reading the broadsheets than they are reading from the red tops.
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Jan 10 2013, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 10 2013, 07:01 PM) And Blake can be only one of a very small band of people that 'want' the unreliable TV listings back. We have digital TV these days. So where on your EPG can you find cast lists, recommendations, background articles etc.? That's why I subscribe to Radio Times (the only printed thing I buy).
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Jan 10 2013, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 10 2013, 09:43 PM) So where on your EPG can you find cast lists, recommendations, background articles etc.? That's why I subscribe to Radio Times (the only printed thing I buy). You mean you don't have your TV plugged into the Internet? How very 1990s Anyway, I was refering to the OP. QUOTE (Blake @ Jan 10 2013, 02:36 PM) TV listings (in the NWN): where have they gone? We want them back. But if I needed the information as you described, I find the BBC website equally capable.
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