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Simon Kirby
post Aug 6 2013, 08:59 PM
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I tried to use the phrase "d@mn their chances" in another thread, and the swear-filter objected to d@mn.

Do we really need a bad language filter? OK so, I do swear too much, and I'm starting to make an effort to clean up my language and not say fcuk any more, but should it always be unacceptable here on the forum? Mostly I'd guess it would be inappropriate, just as mostly it would be inappropriate in civilised conversation, but if a forumista chose to use the word then shouldn't it be their choice? I'd hope it wasn't a choice to be exercised liberally, but shouldn't it still be a possibility? I can after all just write "fcuk", and mostly Admin is not going to delete a generally temperate post simply because of some profanity. I accept that it's not always easy to use "fcuk" in a generally temperate post, and I would expect Admin to delete grossly intemperate posts, but there is still that narrow border country of acceptable intemperate profanity isn't there? Even for fcuk? I think so, just about.

But d@am? Why the hull would you want to mince the oath "d@mn". Or "hull" for that matter? I'm guessing this is an American vocabulary, but surely to goodness someone could edit it, no?

Likewise cwm. It's not a family-friendly word and I can't think of many legitimate topics of discussion where it would be appropriate to talk about cwm, but banning the word does create a nonsense if you want to talk about Shaw-cwm-Donnington without it looking like some enclave of Welsh ex-pats.

Similarly if you want to review the village panto, the language-filter won't let you mention **** Wittington. Or maybe you've just had a particularly pleasant trip to North Lincolnshire, and yet the language filter won't let you refer to the Town you've just visited.

Yet curiously enough I can talk bollocks.

So I'm sot suggesting that it's OK to use profanity aggressively, because it's not, and mostly I guess it's more inclusive if we don't use profanity, but if Admin really wants to make the forum more accessible then I think keeping threads on-topic is probably the first concern, and as profanity doesn't seem to me to be a big issue I just wonder that we might try it without.


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post Aug 6 2013, 09:26 PM
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Forum software designers presumably originally came from the Bible bashing, God Fearing Deep South and nobody has actually bothered to get around to tweaking the software. Any mention of **** (that place beginning with H) and ****-ation (sounds like a construction built by beavers) evokes the Power of the Blasphemy Filter, however some good old Anglo-Saxon tends to slip by unnoticed.. I think they're a bunch of wankers
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post Aug 6 2013, 09:39 PM
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As an aside I do object to people walking around town in the middle of the shopping day with T-shirts emblazoned with the French Connection UK logo... I mean c'mon, families are walking around with kids. I remember I did embarrass my kids a few years ago as I confronted someone in the street wearing a top with FCUK in BIG LETTERS.... A fella my age, he went red faced and actually took the top off!!


Still, have you seen they've got a fcuk off sale on? 50%... fancy that...




The 'Deep South' filter isn't as silly as one of the cricket forums I used to read. You couldn't type Sa****ay or nigh****chman without the ****'s being broken out. Not very helpful on a cricket forum....! laugh.gif Kind of stymied the conversation )

(EDIT: Have just noticed that 't u r d' has been blocked out as has 't w a t' from my last post.... Is someone 'aving a larf... ?)
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post Aug 6 2013, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 6 2013, 09:59 PM) *
Yet curiously enough I can talk bollocks.


and some would say you frequently do! wink.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Of course you could copy Father Ted and use Feck!
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post Aug 6 2013, 10:01 PM
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S****thorpe.


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post Aug 6 2013, 10:04 PM
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Yes mm, that's the North Lincolnshire town Simon was referring to.
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post Aug 6 2013, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Aug 6 2013, 11:04 PM) *
Yes mm, that's the North Lincolnshire town Simon was referring to.

Though there are other titter-worthy places in North Lincolnshire:


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post Aug 6 2013, 11:00 PM
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Near Newbury

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post Aug 7 2013, 07:51 AM
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post Aug 7 2013, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Aug 7 2013, 08:51 AM) *

How do you go about getting a road named after you MM? wink.gif
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post Aug 7 2013, 09:30 AM
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Always liked the once common street name Grope **** Lane myself.
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post Aug 7 2013, 09:46 AM
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Just off Newtown Road is Feltre Place. I wasn't sure how that was supposed to be pronounced.
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post Aug 7 2013, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 7 2013, 10:46 AM) *
Just off Newtown Road is Feltre Place. I wasn't sure how that was supposed to be pronounced.

It is named in honour of Newbury's dolomitic twin town, Feltre, so it would be 'Felltray'
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post Aug 7 2013, 10:11 AM
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The question is, why would you need to swear?

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post Aug 7 2013, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Aug 7 2013, 11:11 AM) *
The question is, why would you need to swear?

Coz I'm of Anglo-Saxon blood and it's therefore my fekin mother tongue.....


Did you know that the Danish King Canute the Great apparently did not have his name spelt in that way until relatively recently? Mind you, trying to hold back the tide and all that... what a cnut

He's a Cnut
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post Aug 7 2013, 10:40 AM
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I am Anglo Saxon too but there is a greater range of vocabulary to refer to rather then lowering yourself to the crude and coarse.
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post Aug 7 2013, 10:40 AM
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But it flows off the tongue so easily....
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post Aug 7 2013, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Aug 7 2013, 11:40 AM) *
I am Anglo Saxon too but there is a greater range of vocabulary to refer to rather then lowering yourself to the crude and coarse.



Who said he was lowering himself? He may be pulliing himself out of the gutter. laugh.gif tongue.gif


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post Aug 7 2013, 12:45 PM
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pulliing. You are a very naughty boy MontyPython. Just when you thought the spelling police were busy with
Cnuts and Cnots. You never expect the comfy sofa.

There Simon let us all change threads like musical chairs. I know I am ready to change at the drop of a cat. Or marmite.

I agree with Blake but also with Simon. I agree there are degrees of intemperate language. I generally find it easy enough to do without either. It takes a bit of working out what has gone wrong when the asterisks pop up. Took a while to get the
cricketing analogy. Like the comfy sofa you have to be ready for a change. What the heck!. I meant the **** Tavern in Shaw
but should I have called it the Rooster Tavern. It does all get a bit childish as motormad rightly points out we are mostly getting closer to our sell by date!.
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post Aug 7 2013, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 7 2013, 10:46 AM) *
Just off Newtown Road is Feltre Place. I wasn't sure how that was supposed to be pronounced.

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 7 2013, 10:56 AM) *
It is named in honour of Newbury's dolomitic twin town, Feltre, so it would be 'Felltray'

Yes, since finding out the other day that Newbury has yet another twin town, and where it is, I'm now aware of the correct pronunciation. However, until then, I assumed it was pronounced Felter, hence my rather feeble attempt at a joke. Perhaps it needed a smiley face for the literal minded.
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