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post Nov 24 2011, 12:53 AM
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What part of care and compassion for the sick, elderly and the vulnerable residents of West Berks does this council not understand ? on the back of last years cuts we now have swinging and damaging cuts in provision in everything from meals on wheels to shopmobility ! I'm sorry "call me Dave" but you really don't understand the damage you are doing and the real resentment that is being generated by the population at large. You will not, cannot be allowed to get away with it anymore, expect heavy losses in the next round of elections when the people that this council and central government have betrayed goes to the poles.

Anyone who is as outraged by these cuts as I am shouls lobby the counil NOW ! and make things change, please, before its too late.


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post Nov 24 2011, 08:04 AM
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Turin, are things going to get so desperate that we'll see you with 'Vote RG' stickers on your car? If I remember rightly his side of the political divide dragged us down here in the first place....
I suspect some of the ire should be directed at the myopic Gordon and the ever smiling Toneee

Cuts have got to happen and it's going to hurt you wherever that kick is aimed at.
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post Nov 24 2011, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 24 2011, 12:53 AM) *
What part of care and compassion for the sick, elderly and the vulnerable residents of West Berks does this council not understand ? on the back of last years cuts we now have swinging and damaging cuts in provision in everything from meals on wheels to shopmobility ! I'm sorry "call me Dave" but you really don't understand the damage you are doing and the real resentment that is being generated by the population at large. You will not, cannot be allowed to get away with it anymore, expect heavy losses in the next round of elections when the people that this council and central government have betrayed goes to the poles.

Anyone who is as outraged by these cuts as I am shouls lobby the counil NOW ! and make things change, please, before its too late.


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I have briefly seen the article in the NWN - spoken of as the next phase in the already-planned reductions in costs - but did not notice details of the changes as they will affect the recipients of service. Have I missed a detail?
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post Nov 24 2011, 08:23 AM
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Care agencies, Sovereign housing etc, have all been called in this week and told what the Council are up to. So you will find that many people were already 'in the know' and had the full story before the NWN gets it's edited spin from WBC.

At the moment, it's only the Level 1's that are going. But doubtless there will be more.

It is possible that Turin is one of those in the know and thus speaks with a little more knowledge that just that gleaned from the paper.
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post Nov 24 2011, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 24 2011, 12:53 AM) *
What part of care and compassion for the sick, elderly and the vulnerable residents of West Berks does this council not understand ? on the back of last years cuts we now have swinging and damaging cuts in provision in everything from meals on wheels to shopmobility ! I'm sorry "call me Dave" but you really don't understand the damage you are doing and the real resentment that is being generated by the population at large. You will not, cannot be allowed to get away with it anymore, expect heavy losses in the next round of elections when the people that this council and central government have betrayed goes to the poles.

Anyone who is as outraged by these cuts as I am shouls lobby the counil NOW ! and make things change, please, before its too late.

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Sorry - But never read such a load of c**p in all my life. How can we be stabbed in the back by a government that we voted in knowing that they were going to make swingeing cuts and are now doing so? Vote Labour again Turin - Lets end up like Italy - why not.
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post Nov 24 2011, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 24 2011, 09:23 AM) *
Sorry - But never read such a load of c**p in all my life. How can we be stabbed in the back by a government that we voted in knowing that they were going to make swingeing cuts and are now doing so? Vote Labour again Turin - Lets end up like Italy - why not.


Pot and Kettle time.

This Government were not voted in, they are a coalition, because no-one had enough seats to form one on their own.

I'm sure that had the Tories been in over the last 5 - 6 years, they would have regulated their greedy friends in the city much better. Yeah right.

Are you suggesting that Italy's problems within the Euroszone are a result of the Labour Party? Jog on.
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post Nov 24 2011, 09:30 AM
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It's always sad for those involved to lose their jobs, but that's modern life, and it's not the government's fault.

I currently am forced to give the government £20,000 a year in tax. I can look after all my family's needs and pay my way for the things we share (eg roads), and still have change for a long haul holiday.

If we could have a nice holiday every year because WBC is doing this now, then surely it's a vote winner. Unless you're saying you WANT to give your money away. I don't


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post Nov 24 2011, 09:48 AM
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Also, I see the Tories are pushing ahead with their £1 Sunday parking charge. Presumably, this is to cover the £££s they're have to start paying Standard Life. Trebles all round


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post Nov 24 2011, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE (Bofem @ Nov 24 2011, 09:48 AM) *
Also, I see the Tories are pushing ahead with their £1 Sunday parking charge. Presumably, this is to cover the £££s they're have to start paying Standard Life. Trebles all round

? I thought they had abandoned the plans for Sunday charging?
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post Nov 24 2011, 10:09 AM
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They'll be charging you if you don't use your waste bin soon. I have seen a 'confidential' most secret e-mail don't you know...
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post Nov 24 2011, 10:42 AM
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The reason the council embargo'd the info until today was so that the paper could not publish the finer detail (as always). They will be on the radio stations today defending their decisions, but the devil is in the detail. I'm currently compiling a data sheet for everyone to see what the detail is, hopefully I can post that for you a little later once it's ready. Yet again, it's the vulnerable who are being hit with all of this.
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post Nov 24 2011, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Nov 24 2011, 08:23 AM) *
Care agencies, Sovereign housing etc, have all been called in this week and told what the Council are up to. So you will find that many people were already 'in the know' and had the full story before the NWN gets it's edited spin from WBC.

At the moment, it's only the Level 1's that are going. But doubtless there will be more.

It is possible that Turin is one of those in the know and thus speaks with a little more knowledge that just that gleaned from the paper.


Unfortunately the ones "in the know" weren't necessarily the ones that "needed to know" - many of those heard it first from the NWN - interesting method of consultation by WBC.
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post Nov 24 2011, 11:17 AM
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Sadly very true.

And why do you think they waited until now to announce their decisions? Could it be anything to do with making sure it wasn't in the paper this week?

The letters all went out yesterday. (Wednesday).
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post Nov 24 2011, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 24 2011, 09:58 AM) *
? I thought they had abandoned the plans for Sunday charging?


It's buried in here.

As an aside, I don't concur with the NWN that a 3% staff cut and 5% budget cut (11% if you take out capital spending) is brutal or swingeing.

Also, can someone clear up the discrepancy between the 59 jobs 'axed' in the NWN and 47 WBC say in their latest missive.






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post Nov 24 2011, 12:04 PM
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If the euro goes t#ts up, WBC will have a fantastic opportunity to renegotiate all sorts of contracts.

The German firm that provides meals on wheels, the French company emptying our bins, and the Dutch firm who repair the roads all do most of their business in euros.

Some of them will either go under, some will sell off their UK divisions, and other new companies will emerge.

PS I notice £500k was paid to the Royal Borough of Windsor & Maidenhead on 10 June 2011. (I didn't want you all thinking the council only spend money with foreign-owned multinationals)


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post Nov 24 2011, 05:28 PM
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The cuts are forced on them by the Government surely?
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post Nov 24 2011, 06:07 PM
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I don't like the NWN's use of the word "trick" in this story either.
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post Nov 24 2011, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE (Blue @ Nov 24 2011, 05:28 PM) *
The cuts are forced on them by the Government surely?

No, no the coucil is made up of a cartel of old misers with pots of cash who sit around dreaming up ways of making life as unbearable as possible for the common folk.

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post Nov 24 2011, 06:16 PM
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I really do not like the re-insertion of the Sunday parking fee. If nothing else, the cost of enforcement will likely negate income, methinks.
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post Nov 24 2011, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (Bofem @ Nov 24 2011, 12:04 PM) *
PS I notice £500k was paid to the Royal Borough of Windsor & Maidenhead on 10 June 2011. (I didn't want you all thinking the council only spend money with foreign-owned multinationals)

That will be for the bargain basement CCTV system.
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