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Biker1
post Sep 1 2018, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (regor @ Sep 1 2018, 07:03 AM) *
Yesterday, in bitterness and resentment I had to give the council £50 so my green bin will carry on being emptied. There seemed no other choice,

There was / is another choice and that is not to pay.
What happened to the process of collective protest?
If no-one had paid what would they have done then?
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post Sep 1 2018, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 1 2018, 01:12 PM) *
£3 worth of builders sacks and an occasional trip to the tip is no hardship.

Yes it is.
Depends where you live and if you have access to a suitable vehicle.
Plus the additional cost and pollution of driving to the tip.
Where is the saving to the council anyway?
Presumably the same lorry will make the same trips using the same fuel but this time will be mostly empty. rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 1 2018, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 1 2018, 02:21 PM) *
Yes it is.
Depends where you live and if you have access to a suitable vehicle.
Plus the additional cost and pollution of driving to the tip.
Where is the saving to the council anyway?
Presumably the same lorry will make the same trips using the same fuel but this time will be mostly empty. rolleyes.gif


Since when has logic been a town councillors forte? They will quite happily impose any harebrain scheme based loosely on the premise that they know best. One only has to look at the money wasted on cycle routes to follow their mindset.


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post Sep 1 2018, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Sep 1 2018, 02:39 PM) *
Since when has logic been a town councillors forte? They will quite happily impose any harebrain scheme based loosely on the premise that they know best. One only has to look at the money wasted on cycle routes to follow their mindset.

Whatís wrong with cycle routes? I think itís an excellent idea to provide a safe means of cycling. I think the St John Roundabout track is mad though.
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post Sep 1 2018, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 1 2018, 02:21 PM) *
Yes it is.
Depends where you live and if you have access to a suitable vehicle.
Plus the additional cost and pollution of driving to the tip.
Where is the saving to the council anyway?
Presumably the same lorry will make the same trips using the same fuel but this time will be mostly empty. rolleyes.gif

They still come and empty kitchen waste so as you say "where's the saving"?


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Isnít it obvious? She's just an uppity.
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Andy Capp
post Sep 1 2018, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 1 2018, 02:21 PM) *
Yes it is.
Depends where you live and if you have access to a suitable vehicle.
Plus the additional cost and pollution of driving to the tip.
Where is the saving to the council anyway?
Presumably the same lorry will make the same trips using the same fuel but this time will be mostly empty. rolleyes.gif

Itís not about saving money or the planet; itís about raising cash. With the amount of Monster Raving Tories this town has means it will succeed.
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post Sep 2 2018, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Sep 1 2018, 05:01 PM) *
Whatís wrong with cycle routes? I think itís an excellent idea to provide a safe means of cycling. I think the St John Roundabout track is mad though.


Quite! Exempli gratia; I quite often have to push a wheelchair on pavements that have a cycle track alongside. Half of the pedestrian route is so overgrown that I need to go on the cycle part where I am harangued by lycra lunatics who think they have a god given right to emulate Eddie Merckx. If that is not bad enough, the designer of said track has decided, for reasons best known to himself, to place ribbed blocks running at right angles to the path on the pedestrian side so once again forcing me over to the cyclist's M1.

I have nothing against the principle, just the incompetence of design and upkeep. angry.gif


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post Sep 2 2018, 10:36 PM
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Do what I do, put a bag of kitchen waste in the green bin, put as much garden waste as I can in my black bin and burn what doesn't fit in. Winner winner, the WBC still has to empty my green bin for free, they take away my garden waste and I've reinstituted nice smelly bonfires.


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Isnít it obvious? She's just an uppity.
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je suis Charlie
post Sep 2 2018, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Sep 1 2018, 05:01 PM) *
Whatís wrong with cycle routes? I think itís an excellent idea to provide a safe means of cycling. I think the St John Roundabout track is mad though.

No cyclist is safe from Mr Range Rover, When they pay road tax is when I let em past.


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Isnít it obvious? She's just an uppity.
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post Sep 2 2018, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Sep 2 2018, 09:13 AM) *
...If that is not bad enough, the designer of said track has decided, for reasons best known to himself, to place ribbed blocks running at right angles to the path on the pedestrian side so once again forcing me over to the cyclist's M1.

I have nothing against the principle, just the incompetence of design and upkeep. angry.gif
I take it you're not visually impaired? Lucky you. This newspiece gives an insight into the reasons for the different sorts of tactile paving, including the corduroy paving you refer to

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44861568
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post Sep 3 2018, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 3 2018, 12:43 AM) *
I take it you're not visually impaired? Lucky you. This newspiece gives an insight into the reasons for the different sorts of tactile paving, including the corduroy paving you refer to

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44861568

Cheers. I didnít know that.
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post Sep 3 2018, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Sep 3 2018, 02:35 AM) *
Cheers. I didnít know that.


Neither did I, so it now makes sense. I will now negotiate without the usual mutterings of contempt. This still does not excuse the overgrown border.


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post Sep 3 2018, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 2 2018, 11:38 PM) *
No cyclist is safe from Mr Range Rover, When they pay road tax is when I let em past.

Nobody pays road tax. Or was that your point?
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post Sep 3 2018, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 2 2018, 11:38 PM) *
No cyclist is safe from Mr Range Rover, When they pay road tax is when I let em past.

I pay car tax and cycle; kids donít so I presume they are your preferred victim.
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post Sep 3 2018, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 3 2018, 08:56 PM) *
I pay car tax and cycle; kids donít so I presume they are your preferred victim.

Three questions,
a, They let you breed?
b, You didn't need a special licence or anything?
c, Are you sure they're yours?


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Isnít it obvious? She's just an uppity.
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Andy Capp
post Sep 3 2018, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 3 2018, 11:23 PM) *
Three questions,
a, They let you breed?
b, You didn't need a special licence or anything?
c, Are you sure they're yours?

Who said anything about me having kids? Thereís plenty of kids all over the place for you to run over in your Tory tractor. Your puerile and spiteful twaddle is wasted on me.
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post Sep 6 2018, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp the bell end @ Sep 3 2018, 08:56 PM) *
I pay car tax and cycle; kids donít so I presume they are your preferred victim.


You don't pay road tax, you pay for VED, which has nothing to do with the up keep of roads.
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post Sep 6 2018, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (Andy1 @ Sep 6 2018, 12:41 PM) *
You don't pay road tax, you pay for VED, which has nothing to do with the up keep of roads.


Tax is tax whatever the name. What it is used for is, or at least should be, the public requirement and road maintenance is just one of many. If you want better roads and safer cycle routes then pay more tax.


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Andy Capp
post Sep 6 2018, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (Andy1 @ Sep 6 2018, 12:41 PM) *
You don't pay road tax, you pay for VED, which has nothing to do with the up keep of roads.

I said car tax and it is also known as road tax, both euphemisms for VED. Common knowledge, but you already knew that didnít you? tongue.gif
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post Sep 6 2018, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 6 2018, 07:27 PM) *
I said car tax and it is also known as road tax, both euphemisms for VED. Common knowledge, but you already knew that didn’t you? tongue.gif

We know what you mean, he's just being pedantic.
Probably dates from the days it was called the Road Fund Licence.
Just like we still say MOT test.
Saying it has nothing to do with the upkeep of roads is not really correct as main highways are paid for from the general tax fund anyway.
Although I believe local roads are paid for by local taxation. Not sure where the demarcation is but I think it is between the Highways Agency and the local council?
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