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> Calls to reduce the A34 to a 50mph limit, Yet more namby pamby nonsense
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post Jan 23 2012, 07:00 PM
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I am not 109. Shoes would be very expensive as well.
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post Jan 23 2012, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 06:35 PM) *
Nope, that's not what I said is it now Adrian? You can tell you're in politics! rolleyes.gif I said it's not OK to speed near anyone's house, but the fact there isn't a house on the A34 means your argument isn't valid!

But every time they close the A34 between the Ilsleys a huge amount of traffic is diverted through the villages.

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post Jan 23 2012, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 06:53 PM) *
Sadly, Donald Campbell is not able to join the forum at this juncture.

Touche! laugh.gif
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post Jan 23 2012, 07:13 PM
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Wonder if the A34 speed limit will rise in line with planned 80 limit for M Ways??
The A34 is in fact a designated Euroroute, and badly needs that 3rd lane.
I've noticed the steady build up of traffic over 20 years, which really started
when M40 arrived, and crossed it near Banbury.

Oxon CC has put 50mph limits on A338/B4494 on nice open stretches of these roads
eg from Wantage to Berks border, which is widely ignored, is wasteful
use of resources for all the signing etc.

As you hit Berks from Wantage direction (on B4494), speed becomes 70,
and road is then narrower & winding. blink.gif

In practical terms limits should be other way round! dry.gif

Making A34, 50mph makes no sense except on dense urban areas, such as
you have at Botley, near Oxford.

In open areas it'll cause bunching as mentioned by others, as you already see at Gore Hill,
ie between W & E Ilsley exits, as HGV's crawl up the gradient.

W Ilsley which caused original poster such heartache wink.gif will inevitably suffer increased
traffic when A34 gridlocked, and of course has 30mph limit, as does Beedon (higher limit) where others
will divert through too., by taking Beedon/Stanmore exit on the Southbound carriageway.
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post Jan 23 2012, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Jan 23 2012, 07:13 PM) *
Oxon CC has put 50mph limits on A338/B4494 on nice open stretches of these roads
eg from Wantage to Berks border, which is widely ignored, is wasteful
use of resources for all the signing etc.

As you hit Berks from Wantage direction (on B4494), speed becomes 70,
and road is then narrower & winding. blink.gif
B4494 in West Berks is national speed limit - which is 60. There have been a number of fatals through this bit but WBC seem to have opted to put up signs warning of the bends, with high-vis chevrons and 'slow' road markings so that drivers can adjust their speed to the conditions rather than just whack up speed limits which would be ignored and unenforced...
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post Jan 23 2012, 07:46 PM
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I reckon 99 per cent of all the accidents on that road will go away
..says the campaigner in the article. I wonder what research he's carried out to support this figure?
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post Jan 23 2012, 08:00 PM
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ROFL ? seriously ? how old are you Adrian, like 16 man ? are is that soyou can be cool and relate to your kids ? If you don't like where you moved to I sggest you move somewhere else and stop posting such self serving tripe !
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post Jan 23 2012, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 23 2012, 08:00 PM) *
ROFL ? seriously ? how old are you Adrian, like 16 man ? are is that soyou can be cool and relate to your kids ? If you don't like where you moved to I sggest you move somewhere else and stop posting such self serving tripe !



Do you get Parker to ramp up the Rolls on the A34 then?
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post Jan 23 2012, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jan 23 2012, 10:49 PM) *
Do you get Parker to ramp up the Rolls on the A34 then?


Here's a picture I took of her earlier

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post Jan 23 2012, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 07:53 PM) *
Sadly, Donald Campbell is not able to join the forum at this juncture.

If you read on from say post 11 in this thread you will see that some learned friends are of the opinion that speed does not cause crashes.
Discuss dry.gif
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post Jan 24 2012, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 23 2012, 11:38 PM) *
If you read on from say post 11 in this thread you will see that some learned friends are of the opinion that speed does not cause crashes.
Discuss dry.gif

Why when we have already done it? huh.gif Or do you just enjoy arguing? tongue.gif
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post Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 06:53 PM) *
Sadly, Donald Campbell is not able to join the forum at this juncture.


Speed didn't kill him. Speed does not kill.

What gets every you is rapid acceleration/deceleration. Falling off tall buildings has never killed anyone. It's the bone-crunching sudden stop.

I'd rather see action taken against the numb-nuts that drive cars on motorways in perfect conditions at 49mph because they don't like going fast.
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post Jan 24 2012, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM) *
I'd rather see action taken against the numb-nuts that drive cars on motorways in perfect conditions at 49mph because they don't like going fast.


I re-direct you back to my "snipers on the rooftops" idea. wink.gif
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post Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM
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So Xjay, stalking me are you ?? Still nice action shot of the motor ! Seriously, people like Adrian who bunker down in their little villages and keep coming up with stupid ideas just to gain brownie points with the local luvvies make me mad. The main arterial from the Industrial midlands to the Channel ports to be 50MPH ? La La land.
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post Jan 24 2012, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM) *
So Xjay, stalking me are you ??


No officer. unsure.gif

Can you start a career in politics? You'd so get my vote! laugh.gif
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post Jan 24 2012, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM) *
So Xjay, stalking me are you ?? Still nice action shot of the motor ! Seriously, people like Adrian who bunker down in their little villages and keep coming up with stupid ideas just to gain brownie points with the local luvvies make me mad. The main arterial from the Industrial midlands to the Channel ports to be 50MPH ? La La land.


Oh dear. Point lost on your obsession with speed sad.gif
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post Jan 24 2012, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM) *
I'd rather see action taken against the numb-nuts that drive cars on motorways in perfect conditions at 49mph because they don't like going fast.

And being someone who works in Reading at the moment, I'd like to see people driving on the A4 doing 43.6 mph nuked as well.
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post Jan 24 2012, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 11:30 AM) *
Oh dear. Point lost on your obsession with speed sad.gif


I have an obsession with speed (after all it's the reason I drive a Golf rolleyes.gif) but if you think about it, the A34 is an artery, the cars are Red blood cells. Slow the cars down, you get a stroke.

Oh well. Death to a few thousand people so your beloved children don't have to taste gods green grass when they fall off their wobbly bicycles.
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post Jan 24 2012, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 11:42 AM) *
I have an obsession with speed (after all it's the reason I drive a Golf rolleyes.gif) but if you think about it, the A34 is an artery, the cars are Red blood cells. Slow the cars down, you get a stroke.

Oh well. Death to a few thousand people so your beloved children don't have to taste gods green grass when they fall off their wobbly bicycles.


You have a rather odd obsession with my children.

As to an artery, as I understand it, it's all about throughput, not speed; and there is no throughput when there is an accident.
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post Jan 24 2012, 12:22 PM
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Throughput is speed, or bandwidth rather. So you're suggesting it's better to have a 50mph limit and no crashes than a 70mph limit with occasional crashes?
You're forgetting at 50mph there will still be crashes..
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