Arrogant drivers. Options

[scott]

I went on Google Earth - there are no white lines to divide lanes on the approaches, save that from Bury's Bank. Unless it has changed since the images was scanned.

I drive it every day, trust me, from burys bank lane, there are 2 lanes.

[Iommi]

I went on Google Earth - there are no white lines to divide lanes on the approaches, save that from Bury's Bank. Unless it has changed since the images was scanned.

Try Microsoft's version, it is more up to date.

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&...7&encType=1

[scott]

Try Microsoft's version, it is more up to date.

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&...7&encType=1

LOL by looking at that, i would estimate that was taken late 2006, early 2007. but it is an accurate one of the said roundabout...

[Iommi]

LOL by looking at that, i would estimate that was taken late 2006, early 2007. but it is an accurate one of the said roundabout...

What is interesting, note the grey tyre marks on the roundabout, it seems to suggest that the left hand lane is the most commonly used to go straight ahead.

[scott]

What is interesting, note the grey tyre marks on the rad, it seems to suggest that the left hand lane is the most commonly used to go straight ahead.

Exactly my gripe! it makes it A. hard to pull out of tesco going right, and B. makes it difficult filtering coming from greenham..

[Iommi]

Exactly my gripe! it makes it A. hard to pull out of tesco going right, and B. makes it difficult filtering coming from greenham..

Perhaps there should be a left only arrow on the road. I wonder why there isn't. Like I said, the left hand lane is normally for left turns or straight ahead. Right hand lanes are normally for right turns.

[Road User]

Perhaps there should be a left only arrow on the road. I wonder why there isn't. Like I said, the left hand lane is normally for left turns or straight ahead. Right hand lanes are normally for right turns.

Well there is nowhere to turn right on that r/a so common sense would tell you that the right lane is straight ahead. Silly me I said common sense! There is no such thing any more!

[Iommi]

Well there is nowhere to turn right on that r/a so common sense would tell you that the right lane is straight ahead. Silly me I said common sense! There is no such thing any more!

There isn't a turn opposite the left turn, but the right hand lane would be the correct one to use to go round the roundabout to go in the opposite direction. Like I said, as far as I know there is nothing wrong with using the left hand lane for going straight ahead and judging by the picture this is the majority view also. The right hand lane could be used for when the left is blocked with people waiting to turn left.

Are there any driving instructors reading this that might be able to comment and maybe put me/us right?

[scott]

There isn't a turn opposite the left turn, but the right hand lane would be the correct one to use to go round the roundabout to go in the opposite direction. Like I said, as far as I know there is nothing wrong with using the left hand lane for going straight ahead and judging by the picture this is the majority view also. The right hand lane could be used for when the left is blocked with people waiting to turn left.

Are there any driving instructors reading this that might be able to comment and maybe put me/us right?

Its not rocket science is it? There are 2 lanes, and there are 2 exits....

[Strafin]

1st exit = 1st lane, other exits are not as straightforward. This explains it, but isn't necessarily official, http://www.findleys.co.uk/highway_code/roundabouts.html

[JMH]

Its not rocket science is it? There are 2 lanes, and there are 2 exits....

We're not driving rockets Scott!

Normal rules of driving preside over un-marked lanes. i.e. as the majority here feel and do, left hand lane for going left or straight on. There is no need to move into the right hand lane to go straight on if the left hand lane is empty. That is more likely to lead to people coming from Tesco's not seeing you and pulling out surely?

And actuallly, as someone else has pointed out there are 3 exits, left, straight on and the one you've just come from!

[Iommi]

Its not rocket science is it? There are 2 lanes, and there are 2 exits....

I disagree and why I'm asking if anyone qualified could comment, this is all just our opinion.

I did look this up a while ago, but cannot find the article again. Conventionally, the left hand lane is for straight ahead. The right hand lane can be used to go straight ahead when the left is blocked by traffic turning left. The right can also be used to turn round and go back in the direction you come from. This is how I see it and would welcome any one who knows to comment.

I have also read that arrows in the road are advisory.

[Andy]

I disagree and why I'm asking if anyone qualified could comment, this is all just our opinion.

I did look this up a while ago, but cannot find the article again. Conventionally, the left hand lane is for straight ahead. The right hand lane can be used to go straight ahead when the left is blocked by traffic turning left. The right can also be used to turn round and go back in the direction you come from. This is how I see it and would welcome any one who knows to comment.

I have also read that arrows in the road are advisory.

I was taught that if there is no right hand turn at a roundabout then the right hand lane if for proceeding straight ahead and turning completely around and the left hand lane in these instances if for turning left only.

There are a couple of examples like this on the A4 from Reading (A340 junction I believe is one), where thay have laid down clear road markings and signs specifying exactly what I have said above. This clearly needs to be done to this roundabout too.

[Iommi]

There are a couple of examples like this on the A4 from Reading (A340 junction I believe is one), where thay have laid down clear road markings and signs specifying exactly what I have said above. This clearly needs to be done to this roundabout too.

I'd agree with that.

Perhaps the road is purposely left ambiguous, just in case they open another exit on the roundabout. It makes sense to have a left only lane and all others use the right, BUT it tends to defy normal practice of two lanes in, one lane out, roundabouts.

[dannyboy]

I drive it every day, trust me, from burys bank lane, there are 2 lanes.

thats what I said - there are no white lines to divide lanes on the approaches, save that from Bury's Bank Road.

[dannyboy]

I disagree and why I'm asking if anyone qualified could comment, this is all just our opinion.

I did look this up a while ago, but cannot find the article again. Conventionally, the left hand lane is for straight ahead. The right hand lane can be used to go straight ahead when the left is blocked by traffic turning left. The right can also be used to turn round and go back in the direction you come from. This is how I see it and would welcome any one who knows to comment.

I have also read that arrows in the road are advisory.

This is what I was taught too.

The reason is that HGV's & other slow vehicles would not be expected to move into the right hand lane to proceed straight ahead. Secondly, because of MSM, technically you should signal to indicate a change of lane on the approach. This however could be interpreted as a R turn [ on this r/b effectively a U turn ]. The Highway code shows clearly that you don't singnal on the approach when going straight ahead.

see - http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTrans...ycode/DG_070338 for a nice diagram illustrating clearly left lane for straight on.

[dannyboy]

I was taught that if there is no right hand turn at a roundabout then the right hand lane if for proceeding straight ahead and turning completely around and the left hand lane in these instances if for turning left only.

There are a couple of examples like this on the A4 from Reading (A340 junction I believe is one), where thay have laid down clear road markings and signs specifying exactly what I have said above. This clearly needs to be done to this roundabout too.

If there are lane markings then these have to be followed. if not then the L lane is for L & Straight on.

[JeffG]

MSM?

[dannyboy]

MSM?

Mirror, Signal, Manoeuvre

[scott]

If there are lane markings then these have to be followed. if not then the L lane is for L & Straight on.

So the council/DOT put 2 lanes on that roundabout, just for people to turn back to greenham... or was it for when they got to the crest of the hill, saw the queues of traffic for the retail park (due to the terrible design of the car park) they could turn back and head back on to burys bank road and crack on to basingstoke shopping....