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post Aug 13 2009, 10:50 AM
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The Good News: the Libyan man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing - killing 270 people - will be released shortly. Oh, I am so happy.... putting a man in jail for such a long time; surely this was against his human right? I hope he was given all the comfort of home while he was detained under her majesty's pleasure?


The Bad News: sadly there will be no reprieve for those that were murdered by this man... they will have to say dead for all eternity.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8198603.stm
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post Aug 13 2009, 10:57 AM
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For those of us who never believed in his guilt it is very good news. Just a pity that he has to be at deaths door from cancer (which he acquired in prison - go figure that ) before common sense started to overcome blind obedience to the US desire to make sure that whoever was found guilty it must be someone from a pro-Iraq country and not upset any of the 'coalition for freedom2 like Iran or Syria.
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (regor @ Aug 13 2009, 11:57 AM) *
For those of us who never believed in his guilt it is very good news. Just a pity that he has to be at deaths door from cancer (which he acquired in prison - go figure that ) before common sense started to overcome blind obedience to the US desire to make sure that whoever was found guilty it must be someone from a pro-Iraq country and not upset any of the 'coalition for freedom2 like Iran or Syria.



To be honest it was a political decision to convict him with other countries in on the conspiracy. However, that is not the point... he was convicted for the crimes of 270 people and there has been no retrial to show that he was innocent.

Some conspiracists say that he actually hasn’t got cancer, but will be shipped away to his home country so that he can live off the rewards of accepting this assignment; being the fall guy.
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 13 2009, 12:05 PM) *
To be honest it was a political decision to convict him with other countries in on the conspiracy. However, that is not the point... he was convicted for the crimes of 270 people and there has been no retrial to show that he was innocent.

Some conspiracists say that he actually hasn’t got cancer, but will be shipped away to his home country so that he can live off the rewards of accepting this assignment; being the fall guy.



Now I am really confused - Are you for or against the release of a man who you admit was probably stitched up to take the blame for others?
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (regor @ Aug 13 2009, 12:11 PM) *
Now I am really confused - Are you for or against the release of a man who you admit was probably stitched up to take the blame for others?


We have no proof that he was stitched up, it is just our belief and what the conspiracists say. Saying all that he was still convicted for the crime of murder therefore he shouldn’t be released. You and I believe this whole episode was a stitch up... but we have no proof of this so we have to accept the verdict that was given. I hope that makes my position clear.

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post Aug 13 2009, 11:41 AM
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We could really peek into some dark corners with this one.

I quite understand your view - what was done by a court must be undone by a court, otherwise the original conviction stands.

But would you apply the same rules to all courts?

A court in Burma past a sentence of 18 months house arrest on Aun Sung (excuse spelling please) for breaking the terms of her existing confinement. Right or wrong she should serve the sentence unless the court reverses its decision? Is that your view?

Many convicted gunmen and bombers were released in Northern Ireland as part of a peace deal. No court was needed - it was a political administrative decision based on an assumption of the greatest good/least harm to the greatest number. I must assume that you did not approve of that decision either.

I can't get into a long debate because I have things to do and will be out of computer contact for five or six days but this whole murky area could do with a torch of truth shinning on it.

Oh well - Bye Bye for now.
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:16 PM
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But would you apply the same rules to all courts?


No... at least outside this country.

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A court in Burma past a sentence of 18 months house arrest on Aun Sung (excuse spelling please) for breaking the terms of her existing confinement. Right or wrong she should serve the sentence unless the court reverses its decision? Is that your view?


That regime is corrupted. Her trial was political to stop her standing in the elections.

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Many convicted gunmen and bombers were released in Northern Ireland as part of a peace deal. No court was needed - it was a political administrative decision based on an assumption of the greatest good/least harm to the greatest number. I must assume that you did not approve of that decision either.


They were actually officially released by the government; legally. This is a hard one and not clear cut. You can’t judge everything as the same.

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I can't get into a long debate because I have things to do and will be out of computer contact for five or six days but this whole murky area could do with a torch of truth shinning on it.


I agree and I am sure you’ll be back fighting. Enjoy your time away from the computer

All the best my friend,

Glenn
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