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post Jul 21 2009, 04:13 PM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=10604

Why won't the council admit they have made a mistake instead of desperately trying to justify the expense of so many wardens?

We have gone from the sublime (no wardens at all and a free for all) to the ridiculous (wardens walking round in packs and one round every corner).

Can I suggest that say 10 Wardens could do the job just as well as 20 in a small town like Newbury?
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post Jul 21 2009, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 21 2009, 05:13 PM) *
http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=10604

Why won't the council admit they have made a mistake instead of desperately trying to justify the expense of so many wardens?

We have gone from the sublime (no wardens at all and a free for all) to the ridiculous (wardens walking round in packs and one round every corner).

Can I suggest that say 10 Wardens could do the job just as well as 20 in a small town like Newbury?



The council need the money. wink.gif
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post Jul 21 2009, 07:42 PM
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It's disgrace... The Council want to fine people!!!

The Councillor in charge of the scheme, David Betts (Con, Purley) said, “The number of tickets has increased monthly, and I'm looking to increase it further with each passing month.”

...that shows the council in good light and what a welcome visitors to Newbury will receive!!!
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post Jul 21 2009, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jul 21 2009, 08:42 PM) *
It's disgrace... The Council want to fine people!!!

The Councillor in charge of the scheme, David Betts (Con, Purley) said, “The number of tickets has increased monthly, and I'm looking to increase it further with each passing month.”

...that shows the council in good light and what a welcome visitors to Newbury will receive!!!



Wasn't that the whole point? To make money. When they first started the council were worried that they weren't making any money.
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post Jul 21 2009, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jul 21 2009, 08:56 PM) *
Wasn't that the whole point? To make money. When they first started the council were worried that they weren't making any money.

Of course, but the ethical point is to make money out of parking charges and the traffic wardens are there to make sure people don't cheat, but for a councillor to spout that he wishes to make money out of fining people is sick and mean!

West Berkshire Council are sick.
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post Jul 21 2009, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jul 21 2009, 09:39 PM) *
Of course, but the ethical point is to make money out of parking charges and the traffic wardens are there to make sure people don't cheat, but for a councillor to spout that he wishes to make money out of fining people is sick and mean!

West Berkshire Council are sick.



You won't get any arguments from me.
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post Jul 21 2009, 09:54 PM
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Or me!
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post Jul 22 2009, 08:01 AM
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I've got a good idea that the Council bosses might want to consider as it will save them (us) money.
As a great many of the Council staff "work from home" and will surely not actually spend 7 hours a day doing council work which we are paying them for perhaps they can be asked to carry out the role of traffic warden.
After all how many of them do you see walking around Newbury during the day.
That way they can save the wages of the traffic wardens and ensure that the Council tax payers of Newbury are getting value for money.


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post Jul 22 2009, 08:01 AM
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It's a disgrace. I couldn't believe the Councillor said that! I remember when a member of the forum (can't remember who, sorry!) got two tickets outside their own house because their parking pass had run out the day before and they didn't have a chance to renew it yet.

The council need to cut down the number of parking wardens to level out the costs. And not ticket people just to make quotas, they need to ticket geniune offenders and give warnings to innocent people who really didn't know. And the fact that they made that person move their car when they were just trying to pick up a table is ridiculous! I thought Newbury was trying to help businesses! The council are using OUR money in the first place for the traffic wardens, now they're trying to get us to pay for them again with fines.

I've got an idea, why doesn't the council let west berkshire residents make the decisions for a month, see how that goes. tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2009, 09:12 AM
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Remind me - when is the Council next up for re-election?
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post Jul 22 2009, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jul 22 2009, 10:12 AM) *
Remind me - when is the Council next up for re-election?



Yes, and I am sure the new lot will get rid of the traffic wardens; I don't think tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2009, 09:30 AM
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If the Liberal Democrats have an ounce of sense they will make the reduction of the number of traffic wardens to a level where they are not a burden on the over taxed members of West Berkshire an election pledge.

They will then walk the election. I know literally scores of lifelong tory voters that wil NEVER vote for this incompetent and morally bankrupt council again.
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post Jul 22 2009, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 22 2009, 10:30 AM) *
If the Liberal Democrats have an ounce of sense they will make the reduction of the number of traffic wardens to a level where they are not a burden on the over taxed members of West Berkshire an election pledge.

They will then walk the election. I know literally scores of lifelong tory voters that wil NEVER vote for this incompetent and morally bankrupt council again.



Since when has any politician had sense? Isn't that an oxymoron?
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post Jul 22 2009, 12:53 PM
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I can't see what the fuss is about - park legally & buy a ticket when required & you won't get a parking ticket.
I was parked outside the Botan yesterday. You have half an hour there. When I got back after 20 mins, a car which had been there when I arrived was getting a ticket. Warden said it had been there 3 hours.
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post Jul 22 2009, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 22 2009, 01:53 PM) *
I can't see what the fuss is about - park legally & buy a ticket when required & you won't get a parking ticket.
I was parked outside the Botan yesterday. You have half an hour there. When I got back after 20 mins, a car which had been there when I arrived was getting a ticket. Warden said it had been there 3 hours.


I think it is about their objective and the moral aspect of it. The council’s objective wasn’t to stop bad parking but to make money. The first couple of weeks they didn’t make any money and were very annoyed/ upset; i.e. nobody was breaking the law. As I see it they should have been delighted that their traffic warden weren’t doing anything as it meant that the law was being observed. But, no, they weren’t happy as they wanted to make money. They’ve got their foot in both camps; one hoping that people will break the law and the other hoping that when they do break the law they are caught. Which means money in council pockets. It is unethical.
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post Jul 22 2009, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 22 2009, 01:53 PM) *
I can't see what the fuss is about - park legally & buy a ticket when required & you won't get a parking ticket. I was parked outside the Botan yesterday. You have half an hour there. When I got back after 20 mins, a car which had been there when I arrived was getting a ticket. Warden said it had been there 3 hours.

It is the attitude that I resent, install new parking restrictions and hope to fine more people, it is mean spirited and I resent the tone in his quote. It does nothing to make Newbury more attractive in my view. I feel what made Newbury a nice 'quiet' place to live is being eroded by this Tory administration and the previous Lib Dem one.

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 22 2009, 10:30 AM) *
If the Liberal Democrats have an ounce of sense they will make the reduction of the number of traffic wardens to a level where they are not a burden on the over taxed members of West Berkshire an election pledge. They will then walk the election. I know literally scores of lifelong tory voters that wil NEVER vote for this incompetent and morally bankrupt council again.

I have voted both and both are the same, indeed, I'd say the Lib Dems are even more rubbish than this rubbish.
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post Jul 22 2009, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jul 22 2009, 02:36 PM) *
I have voted both and both are the same, indeed, I'd say the Lib Dems are even more rubbish than this rubbish.



So... which rubbish will you be voting for next time around? wink.gif
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post Jul 22 2009, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jul 22 2009, 02:00 PM) *
I think it is about their objective and the moral aspect of it. The council’s objective wasn’t to stop bad parking but to make money. The first couple of weeks they didn’t make any money and were very annoyed/ upset; i.e. nobody was breaking the law. As I see it they should have been delighted that their traffic warden weren’t doing anything as it meant that the law was being observed. But, no, they weren’t happy as they wanted to make money. They’ve got their foot in both camps; one hoping that people will break the law and the other hoping that when they do break the law they are caught. Which means money in council pockets. It is unethical.


so err, you are saying that suddenly lots of people are breaking the law & parking illegally? If someone parked in front of one of the cycle racks, preventing its use, wouldn't you want the driver ticketed?
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post Jul 22 2009, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 22 2009, 05:59 PM) *
so err, you are saying that suddenly lots of people are breaking the law & parking illegally? If someone parked in front of one of the cycle racks, preventing its use, wouldn't you want the driver ticketed?

I don't think you read GMR's post properly as he doesn't seem to say that at all.

The Councillor, in my view, has just shown his true colours. He (they) are just simple 'scalpers'.
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post Jul 22 2009, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jul 22 2009, 05:59 PM) *
so err, you are saying that suddenly lots of people are breaking the law & parking illegally? If someone parked in front of one of the cycle racks, preventing its use, wouldn't you want the driver ticketed?



Of course not. The point I was trying to make was about their objectives? Was it to make money or stop illegal parking? When it was reported they were losing money on the project (not catching a lot of illegal parking’s) they were upset. To me they should have been delighted that they had achieved their objective to rid our town of illegal parkers/ people breaking the law (even if it meant that their traffic wardens were doing bugger all). But, no, their objective in creating so many traffic wardens was to make money out of their adventure, not to stop a crime. That was/ is immoral. Putting it another way; they were delighted people were breaking the law because it meant they were making money.

It is all about ones objectives; theirs were immoral.
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