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Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jan 24 2012, 04:40 PM
Why oh why do some idiotic drivers think it funny to drive through puddles at high speed next to pedestrians on pavements. Some even sweve to make sure they get the maximum spray and then you see them laughing as they drive away...
Well to the guy who thought it funny this morning to spray me with muddy water. Revenge is a dish served cold. I have your number plate and I hope you are a local.
Posted by: Penelope Jan 24 2012, 05:05 PM
I believe (although I may be wrong that it's actually an offence ! Book 'em TDAH
Also B$$$$$ rude as well (ha ha admin, bleeped myself)
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 24 2012, 05:14 PM
Because it is funny. 
It's not nice or right or whatever but it's funny.
But yes you have his numberplate, justice can be served. Just exactly what do you expect to be able to do....beat the dude up??
Posted by: Strafin Jan 24 2012, 05:27 PM
I think anyone who does that must be a downright nasty person or a complete idiot. You have my sympathy and back up if you fancy going after them!
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jan 24 2012, 05:54 PM
It's not nice or right or whatever but it's funny.But yes you have his numberplate, justice can be served. Just exactly what do you expect to be able to do....beat the dude up??
No. I'm not the violent type. I'd rather leave a 'message'.
Posted by: Squelchy Jan 24 2012, 06:48 PM
How silly, you don't know who was driving the car do you? It could have been being driven to be sold somewhere and is now owed by someone else.
Posted by: spartacus Jan 24 2012, 06:53 PM
http://www.rac.co.uk/news-advice/motoring-news/post/2011/11/drivers-admit-splashing-pedestrians/
Motorists caught committing the offence can be prosecuted under the 1988 Road Traffic Act for selfish or aggressive behaviour on the road. Those convicted may also see an increase in their car insurance premiums.
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 24 2012, 07:02 PM
Vandalism is a violent act, as is leaving someone thinking their 'welfare is in jeopardy'.
Posted by: NWNREADER Jan 24 2012, 08:50 PM
Don't recognise that offence, but it always used to be a straightforward Sec 3 RTA offence - driving without due consideration for other road users.....
Getting a prosecution in these days of 'worthwhile' will likely, and sadly, be more problematic....
Posted by: Squelchy Jan 24 2012, 09:28 PM
These days pedestrians are not classed as 'other road users'.
The Road Traffic Act 1988 created two offences: Careless Driving and Inconsiderate Driving. It's the latter which covers splashing pedestrians, along with things like un-dipped headlamps and various 'lane' etiquettes.
Posted by: NWNREADER Jan 24 2012, 09:53 PM
The Road Traffic Act 1988 created two offences: Careless Driving and Inconsiderate Driving. It's the latter which covers splashing pedestrians, along with things like un-dipped headlamps and various 'lane' etiquettes.
Precisely.... Inconsiderate = without due consideration......
Posted by: spartacus Jan 24 2012, 10:02 PM
You're right (I just pasted that from the RAC link.) It's Sect 3 RTA 1988. Carries a fine of up to £2,500
TDH, if you're lucky the idiot who soaked you will have posted it on Youtube/Facebook like this woman did a couple of years back. Soaked a group of kids at a bus stop, while her partner filmed it (looked like they were speeding too so could have been much worse if she'd lost control). She was prosecuted.
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/15405349
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1220013/Driver-faces-prosecution-deliberately-soaking-children-puddles--posting-video-online.html
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 24 2012, 10:21 PM
Bloody funny though! 
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 24 2012, 10:29 PM
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/875991/puddle-splash-hoax-backfires-on-driver
the best one
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 24 2012, 10:37 PM
the best one
Bus-stop w*nkers!
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 24 2012, 11:02 PM
Bus-stop w*nkers?!
Just what show do you watch exactly, Andy?
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jan 25 2012, 09:14 AM
I said nothing about vandalism. They'd just need to clean there car as it might smell. I think swerving to hit a puddle and thus possibly aquaplaning and killing pedestrians is a very dangerous thing to do. Some people on this forum seem to think its funny. I bet they would be laughing out loud if it happened to them.
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 25 2012, 10:22 AM
Like it!
You are absolutely right, but it is the same as someone walking into a lamp post; if you are the 'victim' - utterly unfunny.
Posted by: dannyboy Jan 25 2012, 12:56 PM
You are absolutely right, but it is the same as someone walking into a lamp post; if you are the 'victim' - utterly unfunny.
No, splashing some one at a bus stop is akin to banging someone elses head into a lampost...
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 25 2012, 01:15 PM
How is it in any way remotely similar? Banging someone elses head (what, as opposed to your own?) into a lamp post can cause severe injury, concussion, broken nose, jaw, black eyes, internal hemmaeraging or however you spell it. Where as splashing someone at a bus stop is only going to make them a little bit cold and require a change of clothes.
That's like saying eating bacon is akin to murder of a human.
Posted by: dannyboy Jan 25 2012, 01:18 PM
That's like saying eating bacon is akin to murder of a human.
or cause pneumonia & a slow & lingering death.
which ever way you look at it, doing something to your self through inattentiveness is not the same as maliciously doing something to another.
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 25 2012, 01:39 PM
You won't get pneumonia from a puddle.
But what if you were to do something to someone else through inattentiveness? Surely that's ok too.
Posted by: Turin Machine Jan 25 2012, 02:17 PM
Well, human flesh is also known as "long Pork" for fairly obvious reasons !
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 25 2012, 02:24 PM
Presumably you didn't see my, "if you are the 'victim' - utterly unfunny" comment, viz, I'm describing what I find funny, however; I wouldn't find seeing someone being battered funny.
Seeing somone splashed by a car, and seeing someone walk into a lamp post I would find funny. My being splashed by a car, or walking into a lamp post I wouldn't find funny.
Posted by: blackdog Jan 25 2012, 03:02 PM
All these clips of the Plymouth splashing go on about 'motorist faces prosecution'. None seem to report if she was actually prosecuted - or, if so, what penalty was imposed. There are dozens of news items using the video - all within a few days of each other in Oct 2009. Does anyone ever follow up on a story these days?
Posted by: Nothing Much Jan 25 2012, 03:58 PM
I see Turin Machine, that you are up to date wiv pidgin.
It amuses me that a condom in PNG is "Gummi bilong kok".
OK I am no saint and have found a car a little out of control on water on a major road.
On rainy days as a pedestrian I keep away from the edge. As a driver I can see kerbside puddles.
Like not knocking cyclists over, I would try to be considerate with puddles.
Posted by: Strafin Jan 25 2012, 05:55 PM
Seeing somone splashed by a car, and seeing someone walk into a lamp post I would find funny. My being splashed by a car, or walking into a lamp post I wouldn't find funny.
I think walking into a lamp post is your fault and doesn't really have a lasting effect. Being splashed by a car is someone else inflicting a situation on an innocent that may cause discomfort all day. I don't see how it could be considered funny personally but if someone splashed me intentionally, they had better make sure there is long bit of road before they have to stop.
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 25 2012, 07:14 PM
Or they are much harder than you!
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 25 2012, 07:23 PM
It's not being on your period or accidental popping Viagra instead of cold&flu pills. It's some water. When you have a bath you don't take all day to dry out.
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 25 2012, 07:31 PM
Do you know how people contract pneumonia?
Posted by: JeffG Jan 25 2012, 10:31 PM
I'll pop down to Mill Lane sometime and pour a bucket of water over you. Then I'll wait for you to laugh at the hilarity of it all.
Posted by: dannyboy Jan 25 2012, 10:37 PM
I know it is a disease caused by infection & has nothing to do wuith getting cold / wet, but 'catching pneumonia / death of cold' etc is a fairly common old wives tale attributed to getting wet/cold. As well you know.
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 26 2012, 12:37 AM
I wouldn't laugh (well, not in my current frame of mind, but if things were all gravy then I probably would) but the people I work with most certainly get a right laugh out of it!
Last time I was washing my car my friend thought it would be funny to spray me with the Karcher pressure washer so I think a bucket of water could be taken in my stride. Just don't mess up the hair!
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jan 26 2012, 09:30 AM
Last time I was washing my car my friend thought it would be funny to spray me with the Karcher pressure washer so I think a bucket of water could be taken in my stride. Just don't mess up the hair!
I think you miss the point. If you are walking to work in your suit and get drenched intentionally by some irrational moron then it's going to mean you have to go back change and be late for work. It's more than 'just a bit of fun'. Stopping me from getting to work by intentionally drenching me is akin to me coming round to your house and letting your tyres down just before you leave for work yourself. Oh the hilarity as I watch you have to change your tyres. Not.
Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 26 2012, 09:35 AM
I'm sorry, but that isn't as funny. It's all about timing.
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 26 2012, 10:08 AM
If I wore a suit then yes it would probably annoy me. Your point is fair and valid. However this person wasn't wearing a suit. So we could keep adding modifiers to the story, perhaps the next one could be "a spaceship was trying to land and during the operation of his booster jets, water was splashed over me, not only at a very high velocity but at a temperature of several hundred degrees. I arrived at work wet with a melted face.
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jan 26 2012, 11:14 AM
He was wearing a suit! It was ME!!!!
Posted by: Nothing Much Jan 26 2012, 11:46 AM
As a word of warning Xjay and your Karcher chum. I have a 4 inch scar from carelessly moving a patio tub without turning off the spray. Colonic irrigation is not to be attempted!
So where is my chain saw ? I have some pruning to finish.
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 26 2012, 11:54 AM
C.e, thanks for your warning. I should heed it. I won't be sticking it up there anytime soon. Have fun trimming your bush, I'd be careful with the chain saw though, you might cut off your pole.
Well that would probably be a failure to remember detail on my part correctly.
Then why did you not pack a poncho or at least an umbrella in the event of this happening?
Posted by: blackdog Jan 28 2012, 12:55 AM
Or a shotgun so you can respond appropriately to the t**t that soaked you.
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 29 2012, 12:03 PM
Surely killing someone would not be the most appropriate response according to the Geneva convention..
Posted by: blackdog Jan 30 2012, 09:20 AM
A shotgun fired at a car driving away from you would be very unlikely to kill anyone - make a mess of the car though - just like it just made a mess of the pedestrian.
On a more serious note - should deliberate drenching not be considered an assault? Criminal law could then take over and deal with the toerags who think it's fun to ruin someone's day.
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 30 2012, 09:51 AM
Well, perhaps they should be punished in some way, but it's hardly assault. Assault would be punching someone in the face because they made a "your mum" joke. By that account we should all be sueing Thorpe Park for drenching us on Tidal Wave.. Last time I fired a Shotgun at a car it sort of exploded... but I feel Grand Theft Auto isn't probably indicative of real life.
It's a bit of water, at worst it's going to cost you half an hour of your time to go home, rub down and change, at most the people who did it should have to pay for the dry cleaning, but that'll easily be cancelled out by the £250 they'd get from sending the clip into You've Been Framed.
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jan 30 2012, 10:51 AM
It's a bit of water, at worst it's going to cost you half an hour of your time to go home, rub down and change, at most the people who did it should have to pay for the dry cleaning, but that'll easily be cancelled out by the £250 they'd get from sending the clip into You've Been Framed.
You really are a bit of a t**t.
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 30 2012, 11:04 AM
Great, you finally realised
Edit: I realised that after all you did make the thread and you would get upset about us laughing at your expense.
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 30 2012, 11:46 AM
You'd also be very happy to hear of this new initiative.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16783270
Posted by: massifheed Jan 30 2012, 12:08 PM
Erm... no.
Posted by: Simon Jan 30 2012, 01:01 PM
I have to say this thread has made me laugh today!!!
I have been soaked by a driver before, as i probably have soaked pedestrians in the past, i think its one of those things.
Last year whilst walking down hambridge road, i got splashed by about 4 cars in a row. At the time i was fuming but by the time i got home i thought it was hilarious.
For those who walk to work, my suggestion is to wear waterproofs if it has been raining or take a change of clothes
Posted by: blackdog Jan 30 2012, 02:44 PM
Half an hour of time? So, I'm standing at a bus stop in, say, north London - a couple of hours from home - on my way to a job interview dressed in my best (ok, only) suit. Some prat drenches me for a laugh - I suspect I would happily shoot the b*****d!
Or I happen to be suffering from depression, trying to get out and get back to some sort of normality - drenched by someone laughing their heads off as they pass. I suspect I'd be more likely to shoot myself under those circumstances, or step out in front of the bus when it arrives.
Sure many people would just curse and cope - but not all - the result off an 'innocent' prank could be to ruin someone's life and will often ruin someone's day - the idea that this is just a 'bit of fun' has to be stopped. If it isn't considered as common assault then it should be - perpetrators should be given community service cleaning up river beds, in their best suit/dress, no waders. See how they like being soaked.
I have to say it seems, to me, much, much worse than a little chip on a wheel - probably just the tyre changer having a 'bit of a laugh'. Ho, ho, ho.
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 30 2012, 03:43 PM
You didn't pay £40 for them to mark your £500 wheels did you. A better comparison would be that they got my wheels muddy which would require nothing more than a quick wash, where as the damage they did caused my car to have to get put on a SPARE wheel (which looked http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/11199020463/2/tumblr_lsrpp0M8pe1qbr3dv and made me have to take time off work {as in 2 days not 2 hours} to get things done) If getting splashed caused you to have to run around in your underpants while getting your shirt shotblasted, and repainted them you can make that comparison.
Then again if I was suffering from depression then getting wet would normally cheer me right up. Or yes it would push me over the edge, after all, losing my wife, child, job and house would get me down, but being splashed would be thing that pushed me over the edge. Then I'd ruin everyone else's day by causing them all to be late for work because I wanted to jump infront of a bus rather than off a bridge or quietly at home with a bottle of pills (pills don't work very well trust me I have tried, next time I'll use the "off a bridge" method) but jumping infront of a bus, or a train, or a car, is just very selfish. Sorry but unless you wanted to annoy everyone you could still achieve your end goal of death quietly without effecting the day to day activities of strangers.
Although your point about being far away from home is a good one. Although if you have ever tried one of those Dyson airblades they are pretty intense at drying things...well worth the 20p at Paddington bogs. And I'm not debating that it's a bit bad and should have some sort of consequence, I'm just saying it's funny to see it happen...and if you don't find it funny then consider that my sense of humour allows me to laugh at life more than you. Common assault, no...careless driving, but that carries 3 point and I think that most of these "soakings" are accidental, on a rainy day...sometimes it doesn't take a big puddle to make a big splash. I think paying for dry cleaning and a sincere apology should suffice unless it can be prooven it was on purpose...a 40 year old taking her 7 year old to school, probably accidental, but a pair of 20 year olds who are laughing, well perhaps not so they should have something else, but points or a criminal record is completely OTT unless it's a repeat act..
But it's ok, do unto others as you don't want them to do unto you, if you had to suffer, they have to suffer equally or more. Shoot them for making you a bit damp, yes that's great and a just retort.
Posted by: blackdog Jan 30 2012, 04:38 PM
That would be difficult as I would never dream of paying £500 for a set of wheels - I'm not that daft.
I'm not talkng about accidental splashing (which is rare - I can't really think of many scenarios that would be truly accidental, as opposed to driving too fast for the conditions) - or even careless splashing (which is common - driving without due care and attention) but deliberate splashing - an assault in my mind.
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 30 2012, 04:44 PM
£500 is cheap. I'm eyeing up a set of BBS's which are £900 without tyres to buy in a couple of months..add £450 on a set of tyre's we're looking at £1500. Doesn't really make you daft, but it depends on how you look at it. At least I'd have something to show for it and could sell them later. Where as if you go to the pub and spend £20-£25 on a few pints 3 times a week that's daft, what do you have to show for it other than a bunch of receipts and some man boobs?
Well, even at 20mph a puddle can splash enough to get you wet if you're stood at the roadside. For example on the Bath Road near Henwick fields, even in the rain that's fine to do 40mph. Sometimes there are some massive puddles and unless you drive practically in the middle of the road you do get a lot of spray.
Speed isn't strictly related to size of splash. Most people who soak others don't do it on purpose...how about take the initiative and if you know it's raining why not step BACK from the edge of the curb and stand BEHIND the bus stop or at least away from the side of the road.. Problem solved.
Posted by: x2lls Jan 30 2012, 10:49 PM
It's not nice or right or whatever but it's funny.But yes you have his numberplate, justice can be served. Just exactly what do you expect to be able to do....beat the dude up??
Not funny, not clever, and judging by the stupid subsequent comments from the local boy , You really are a T**t
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 30 2012, 11:01 PM
Posted by: blackdog Jan 31 2012, 04:18 PM
Just had a quick look online - can get a set of wheels (inc spare) for my car for under £300. Still seems a bit pricey - but luckily my car came with wheels (I consider them an essential accessory when I'm buying a car) and I haven't needed to replace any of them yet.
Splash size is related to speed - if all other conditions are the same the splash will be bigger if the car is moving faster.
Anyone who thinks it's clever, or fun, to deliberately splash some innocent bystander deserves to do a bit of community service, preferably having to stand at bus stops while he/she serves out a driving ban.
Posted by: xjay1337 Jan 31 2012, 04:45 PM
You miss the point
It's a hobby for me, an interest. Besides yes steel wheels are cheap 
Yup that's fair....
Where as that's not. Talk about knee jerk reaction.
Posted by: blackdog Feb 1 2012, 01:41 AM
It's a hobby for me, an interest. Besides yes steel wheels are cheap To me it's daft, to you it's a hobby - such is life.
But I think it's only available as a punishment if the offence falls under criminal law - such as an assault.
People who drive that badly should realise that a car licence is a privilege, not a right. A month or two without their car would serve to reinforce this message.
But it's interesting that you seem to think that a driving ban is worse than a community service - perhaps some thought should be given to imposing driving bans for criminal offences - instead of (or as well as) community service orders.
Posted by: blackdog Feb 1 2012, 01:41 AM
Oops - double posted. Can't seem to delete one?
Posted by: xjay1337 Feb 1 2012, 09:34 AM
Yeah I don't think you can delete things...unfortunately.
I mean I can understand how people come to that conclusion that it's daft (some of my mates say the same thing) but at the end of the day I get by, support myself for 95% of things and earn my own money so if I chose to buy 500kg of horse poo then that would be up to me.
So are you suggesting a driving ban for GBH or a common assault (pub fight or something) for example? Think that is just sweeping things under the rug as they say, I think punishments are just in terms of what they are in written law, however those handed out by judges are often too leniant, mainly for repeat offenders.
A respectable person in their 20s or 30s who has a silly moment and tries to shoplift a small item such as a bit of food yes, get a suspended sentence but if they do it again, don't give them another suspended sentence, they should then get a stint in jail, say up to 3 months..
To start using your car as a punishment for non-motoring offences is just a bit...silly.
Posted by: blackdog Feb 1 2012, 10:55 AM
I'm not so sure. If the threat of a ban from driving, is more likely to deter criminal behaviour (minor obviously) than a community order then why not use it as a punishment?
Posted by: Bloggo Feb 1 2012, 11:37 AM
Why not, it would be pretty effective deterent against criminal activity. No one wants to lose their licence. I mean, how would you dispose of stolen scrap metal if you were banned from driving.
Posted by: Andy Capp Feb 1 2012, 12:09 PM
Driving illegally.
Posted by: Bloggo Feb 1 2012, 01:47 PM
Yes, and when they get caught again you lock em up.
Posted by: xjay1337 Feb 1 2012, 01:53 PM
And then drive away again!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPEeaxI0OPU
"and then steal it again!"
Posted by: Bloggo Feb 1 2012, 02:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPEeaxI0OPU
"and then steal it again!"
Then you lock them up for longer again.
Posted by: Andy Capp Feb 1 2012, 02:08 PM
Can't. The budget has been cut!
Posted by: xjay1337 Feb 1 2012, 02:08 PM
Haha.
Posted by: IanB Feb 6 2012, 04:32 PM
I'm with the OP on this one.
If someone did it to me, I'd happily give karma a helping hand and 'let them know' they were in the wrong!
Posted by: IanB Feb 6 2012, 04:45 PM
It's a bit of water, at worst it's going to cost you half an hour of your time to go home, rub down and change, at most the people who did it should have to pay for the dry cleaning, but that'll easily be cancelled out by the £250 they'd get from sending the clip into You've Been Framed.
What planet are you on!?!?!
Spitting at someone is classed as assault, are you saying that that's also "a bit of water, at worst it's going to cost you half an hour of your time to go home, rub down and change"...? Or is it less of an offence because you won't even need to go home?
They're both malicious acts, whether in jest or anger.
Get a grip!
Posted by: xjay1337 Feb 6 2012, 04:53 PM
I'm on Mars, these Fibre Optic internet computermabobs are pretty nifty these days.
Spitting on someone is not an "accidental" thing to do. It takes malice and is intentional. You can't accidentally spit on someone just like you can't "accidentally" go on a date with your best friends girlfriend (not that I have a best friend and even if I do it's not like he has a girlfriend, it's purely hypothetical)
Not only that but it can pass on diseases like malaria and Lupus (I made that bit up, but you can get hepatitis, colds, flu's, etc)
Where as driving down the road, and focusing on traffic ahead or the very attractive girl on the other side of the road means you might not notice a puddle which blends in and you may accidentally splash someone is one thing....
To then go and see a puddle and think "aha, I will soak those people" and drive through it is malicious...(and funny if you have a sense of humour(something certain people on here fail to have, if you see it happen as a bystander) ....you see there's a difference.. I try not to splash people, I don't think I have as yet. I find it funny to see but not something I would personally done. Like being beaten up by a Sumo wrestler or taking part in Takeshi's castle.
By definition to do something "maliciously" you need to set out to cause pain or discomfort to someone as a direct result of your actions. So accidentally splashing someone is not malicious.
You need to learn what malicious means so, back to you, mate.
Posted by: blackdog Feb 7 2012, 10:51 AM
Spitting on someone is not an "accidental" thing to do. It takes malice and is intentional. You can't accidentally spit on someone just like you can't "accidentally" go on a date with your best friends girlfriend (not that I have a best friend and even if I do it's not like he has a girlfriend, it's purely hypothetical)
Not only that but it can pass on diseases like malaria and Lupus (I made that bit up, but you can get hepatitis, colds, flu's, etc)
Where as driving down the road, and focusing on traffic ahead or the very attractive girl on the other side of the road means you might not notice a puddle which blends in and you may accidentally splash someone is one thing....
To then go and see a puddle and think "aha, I will soak those people" and drive through it is malicious...(and funny if you have a sense of humour(something certain people on here fail to have, if you see it happen as a bystander) ....you see there's a difference.. I try not to splash people, I don't think I have as yet. I find it funny to see but not something I would personally done. Like being beaten up by a Sumo wrestler or taking part in Takeshi's castle.
By definition to do something "maliciously" you need to set out to cause pain or discomfort to someone as a direct result of your actions. So accidentally splashing someone is not malicious.
You need to learn what malicious means so, back to you, mate.
This thread and my comments re assault have been about deliberate splashing of people - specifically the case of the youtube clip of the idiots from Devon. This is a malicious assault carried out so the perpetrator can 'have a laugh'.
'Accidental' splashing as a result of driving without due care and attention can be dealt with under normal traffic law - a fine and a few points might make the driver be a bit more careful in future.
Posted by: xjay1337 Feb 7 2012, 11:16 AM
Would you think fining someone someone and giving them points for a genuine mistake is fair? How would you be able to tell if it was accidental or malicious?
Posted by: Andy Capp Feb 7 2012, 11:47 AM
That is what you and others 'delight' in with Park Way bridge.
Posted by: xjay1337 Feb 7 2012, 12:55 PM
Touche
Posted by: IanB Feb 7 2012, 01:13 PM
Spitting on someone is not an "accidental" thing to do. It takes malice and is intentional. You can't accidentally spit on someone just like you can't "accidentally" go on a date with your best friends girlfriend (not that I have a best friend and even if I do it's not like he has a girlfriend, it's purely hypothetical)
Not only that but it can pass on diseases like malaria and Lupus (I made that bit up, but you can get hepatitis, colds, flu's, etc)
Where as driving down the road, and focusing on traffic ahead or the very attractive girl on the other side of the road means you might not notice a puddle which blends in and you may accidentally splash someone is one thing....
To then go and see a puddle and think "aha, I will soak those people" and drive through it is malicious...(and funny if you have a sense of humour(something certain people on here fail to have, if you see it happen as a bystander) ....you see there's a difference.. I try not to splash people, I don't think I have as yet. I find it funny to see but not something I would personally done. Like being beaten up by a Sumo wrestler or taking part in Takeshi's castle.
By definition to do something "maliciously" you need to set out to cause pain or discomfort to someone as a direct result of your actions. So accidentally splashing someone is not malicious.
You need to learn what malicious means so, back to you, mate.
I was very careful with my choice of lexis, hence why I used 'malicious'.
I'm talking about purposely soaking someone for a giggle...
I did say 'They're both malicious acts, whether in jest or anger.'
To do it in jest or anger, surely you need to have intention which rules out accidents.
We're not here to discuss semantics anyway. Soaking someone whilst driving is wrong, however funny and whichever way you look at it. I'm just putting myself in the OP's situation and imagining how I'd feel.
I'm afraid as a driver there are a number of innocent awareness related mistakes you can make which will cost you. E.g. Jumping red lights, speeding, and the costliest of all; writing your car off on the bollards in the town centre..! So to your view that it's harsh to penalise someone for soaking someone, I beg to differ.
You can also get diseases from muddy puddles by the way...
I've read a lot of your posts Xjay and I have to say that you hit the nail on the head sometimes. You don't half talk a lot of b***ocks sometimes too though! ;-0
Either way it's entertaining.
Posted by: xjay1337 Feb 7 2012, 06:53 PM
If we are putting ourselves into the position of the OP then I'd probably be irked as well but it's just one of those things. I get what you are saying about lapses of judgement for example driving through a red light and crashing into one of the Wobbly Pizza Hut delivery scooters (at least you could steal the Pizza before the rider comes to) but puddles are like the wind...they are everywhere and it can be harder to spot a puddle which is capable of splashing someone than it is to spot a red light.
Touch wood I have never driven through a red light because normally I have stopped at all the street corners.
Whether or not you agree with what I say, I like that you find me entertaining from time to time, for that is mainly why I post, because it's fun. I do feel this forum could genuinely be a nicer place if some people were a bit lighter in their loafers, or more floaty in their flip flops, whatever shoes you wear really..
Sometimes I do post seriously and sometimes I don't (like in the tree thread) however even when I'm being serious I am also being satirical because I try to avoid sounding too whingy and humour makes it more interesting to write*
I didn't know about the diseases from the puddles, I will certainly think twice about jumping in one from now on.
Posted by: Nothing Much Feb 7 2012, 07:44 PM
"I didn't know about the diseases from the puddles, I will certainly think twice about jumping in one from now on. "
WHAT'S THE YOUNG MAN SHOUTING ABOUT POODLES AND DISEASES FOR.
Shut up gran,wrong thread. Sorry about that folks we have to let her out for a spell,
and once on the keyboard is worse than the cat.
I agree with Ian B. I can see Xjay's japes. Not always to an older taste.
But I agree with most .
ce
Posted by: NORTHENDER Feb 7 2012, 07:50 PM
Keep doing what you're doing xjay. Ripper mate.
Posted by: Nothing Much Feb 7 2012, 07:50 PM
Deleted doubled post. Gran or the cat to blame!
Posted by: Nothing Much Feb 7 2012, 08:19 PM
Interestingly all the local soakaway drains have just been cleared by a "sludge-gulping" crew.
They get filled up with junk and the water becomes a puddle during rain.
Do they site these on purpose by bus stops. ?...
Don't forget that folk go down to the sea harbours to get drenched for fun on stormy days.
Some don't get back to shore.
So a puddle is a small thing. I did learn my lesson to stand back.Annoying and not amusing.
Especially with bus wing mirrors which often stick out over the pavement.
ce
Posted by: xjay1337 Feb 8 2012, 09:00 AM
I saw they were cleaning sewers opposite the Mercedes Dealership a little while ago. I guess if the sewers are blocked the doggy doo-doo I mentioned in an earlier thread can get contaminated with the puddles on the road and that's, boys and girls, where disease comes from.
I don't think buses should be fitted with mirrors, it's not like the drivers ever use them -OH SNAP no he didn't. It would the bus significantly cheaper to build and not to mention far more unlikely to hit a pedestrian waiting for said bus.
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