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> What a caring for the environment lot Newbury folk are.
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post Mar 19 2018, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 14 2018, 06:58 PM) *
We have these bills because we voted for a tax cutting government. They slashed the local settlement.

How come we had ludicrously high council tax increases when the Lib Dems were last in charge of WBC? Don't recall it being the Tories in Government slashing funding to councils then. Do remember our increases being either the highest or second highest in the country.

QUOTE (Biker1 @ Mar 14 2018, 08:30 AM) *
Seems our dopey council care not for the environment either what with slapping a £50 charge for collection of green waste on top of a outrageous 6% tax rise?!!! angry.gif
I predict a marked increase of green waste going to landfill and fly tipping .

Thank goodness we don't have a Lib Dem run council then - it would be far more than a 6% rise then. More like 36%.
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post Mar 19 2018, 09:54 AM
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And why not ALL aluminium? Horrendously expensive to refine, surely it must be more cost effective to recycle?


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post Mar 19 2018, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE (GrumblingAgain @ Mar 19 2018, 10:20 AM) *
How come we had ludicrously high council tax increases when the Lib Dems were last in charge of WBC? Don't recall it being the Tories in Government slashing funding to councils then. Do remember our increases being either the highest or second highest in the country.

Agreed, yes I remember those double figure increases very well! angry.gif

QUOTE (GrumblingAgain @ Mar 19 2018, 10:20 AM) *
Thank goodness we don't have a Lib Dem run council then - it would be far more than a 6% rise then. More like 36%.

It would indeed! Still doesn't justify it though I think?
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post Mar 19 2018, 05:07 PM
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Have to pay for all that land they gave away somehow. Not to mention those salaries and pensions.


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post Mar 19 2018, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE (GrumblingAgain @ Mar 19 2018, 09:20 AM) *
How come we had ludicrously high council tax increases when the Lib Dems were last in charge of WBC? Don't recall it being the Tories in Government slashing funding to councils then. Do remember our increases being either the highest or second highest in the country

When it was the LDs, it was still the government cutting settlements; however, I donít remember the Torys handing anything back either.
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post Mar 19 2018, 07:32 PM
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Still not clearing litter though. I despair sometimes. We can give prime development land away, spend hundreds of thousands on cafes, vanity projects abound. But we can't get the recycling done, borrow a library book or use a loo. Progress huh.


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post Mar 19 2018, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 19 2018, 07:32 PM) *
Still not clearing litter though. I despair sometimes. We can give prime development land away, spend hundreds of thousands on cafes, vanity projects abound. But we can't get the recycling done, borrow a library book or use a loo. Progress huh.

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post Mar 19 2018, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 19 2018, 07:32 PM) *
Still not clearing litter though. I despair sometimes. We can give prime development land away, spend hundreds of thousands on cafes, vanity projects abound. But we can't get the recycling done, borrow a library book or use a loo. Progress huh.


And yet you'll still vote for them!
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post Mar 20 2018, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Mar 19 2018, 09:54 PM) *
And yet you'll still vote for them!


And thereby lies the problem. Those who should be in local government are precluded by the fact they wouldn't want the job which leaves those who think they can do it but patently can't.
Perhaps we should abstain from using the ballot box?


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post Mar 20 2018, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Mar 20 2018, 09:29 AM) *
And thereby lies the problem. Those who should be in local government are precluded by the fact they wouldn't want the job which leaves those who think they can do it but patently can't.
Perhaps we should abstain from using the ballot box?

Most people do anyway, have you seen the turnout figures?


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post Mar 20 2018, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 20 2018, 11:12 AM) *
Most people do anyway, have you seen the turnout figures?


And they are the ones at the front of the queue when it comes to complaining over how things are run. I think it's only fair to say that any government, ( local or national ), is only as competent as the opposition members allow. Sort of "Peter principle" in politics.
Now that is a conspiracy theory to contemplate. cool.gif


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post Mar 21 2018, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Mar 20 2018, 12:26 PM) *
And they are the ones at the front of the queue when it comes to complaining over how things are run. I think it's only fair to say that any government, ( local or national ), is only as competent as the opposition members allow. Sort of "Peter principle" in politics.
Now that is a conspiracy theory to contemplate. cool.gif

It doesn't help when the opposition is outnumbered 12 to 1.

We may complain, but it is the electorate, us, that puts them in place (and the council officers who tell them what to do).
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post Mar 21 2018, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 21 2018, 09:43 AM) *
It doesn't help when the opposition is outnumbered 12 to 1.

We may complain, but it is the electorate, us, that puts them in place (and the council officers who tell them what to do).

Oh the irony rolleyes.gif


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post Mar 21 2018, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 21 2018, 09:43 AM) *
It doesn't help when the opposition is outnumbered 12 to 1.

We may complain, but it is the electorate, us, that puts them in place (and the council officers who tell them what to do).


so much for democracy then eh? rolleyes.gif


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post Mar 21 2018, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Mar 21 2018, 03:29 PM) *
so much for democracy then eh? rolleyes.gif


To paraphrase the late Eric Morecambe " the voters put the right cross but in the wrong place" . laugh.gif


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post Apr 2 2018, 06:27 PM
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I really don't know why anyone turns up to vote in a local election, there really isn't any point. if you must go, just spoil your ballot paper - that really does wind up the bureaucratic mind! At least 10 minutes fun on a dull count night.


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post Apr 2 2018, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 2 2018, 07:27 PM) *
I really don't know why anyone turns up to vote in a local election, there really isn't any point. if you must go, just spoil your ballot paper - that really does wind up the bureaucratic mind! At least 10 minutes fun on a dull count night.


Oh, I always thought that the West Berks count was low because the locals didn't like signing anything. laugh.gif
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post Apr 3 2018, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Apr 2 2018, 09:37 PM) *
Oh, I always thought that the West Berks count was low because the locals didn't like signing anything. laugh.gif

That's okay, they let labour scrawl a cross on everything.


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post Apr 3 2018, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 2 2018, 07:27 PM) *
I really don't know why anyone turns up to vote in a local election, there really isn't any point. if you must go, just spoil your ballot paper - that really does wind up the bureaucratic mind! At least 10 minutes fun on a dull count night.

I've been to loads of counts. Nobody cares, they just get piled up to the side.
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post Apr 3 2018, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Apr 3 2018, 03:43 PM) *
I've been to loads of counts. Nobody cares, they just get piled up to the side.

Of course they don't, why would they? If someone is stupid enough to turn out just to spoil his paper it's probably a good thing to ignore them anyways! laugh.gif


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