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HeatherW
post Mar 6 2015, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 6 2015, 08:15 PM) *
That is a conditional issue. No-one minds incomers, it is the volume that is more of a concern. The local houses for local people is simply a recognition that there is a housing need for people trying to live here.


Providing there is work and commendation then, yes.
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post Mar 6 2015, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Mar 6 2015, 08:04 PM) *
I think the racism bit is present at certain levels all parties. Let's face it, round here a fair number of people don't appreciate incomers from anywhere. You know, the local houses for local people debate.

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post Mar 8 2015, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Mar 6 2015, 08:04 PM) *
I think the racism bit is present at certain levels all parties. Let's face it, round here a fair number of people don't appreciate incomers from anywhere. You know, the local houses for local people debate.



Well this makes sense.

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Everyone is predujice. I think admitting that is key. Predujice isn't racism, it's just a stereotype based on some factor about someone wheter that's based on how they talk, walk, dress, drive, look, who they pray to, etc.


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post Mar 10 2015, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Mar 8 2015, 06:09 PM) *
Well this makes sense.

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Everyone is predujice. I think admitting that is key. Predujice isn't racism, it's just a stereotype based on some factor about someone wheter that's based on how they talk, walk, dress, drive, look, who they pray to, etc.


True, everybody is prejudice, but there is good prejudice and bad prejudice. I am prejudice against extremists and bad car drivers (mostly men, with a few women thrown in). It all depends on what one says and how others respond.
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post Mar 12 2015, 05:24 PM
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I'm equally prejudiced against everyone.

Everyone is a pr*ck. And people from the North.


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post Mar 12 2015, 06:22 PM
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Gordon Brown "British Jobs for British Workers" - BBC take - fine its fits our Guardian reading leftish agenda and he's looking after the working class
Nigel Farage "British Jobs for British Workers" - BBC take - racist scum - he wants to abolish the race relations laws

LOL - Do they really think people are that thick?
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post Mar 12 2015, 07:05 PM
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I've always believed that the best qualified should get the job. There should be no discrimination, positive or negative. English, Polish, white, black, male, female. The best candidate wins.


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post Mar 12 2015, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Mar 12 2015, 07:05 PM) *
I've always believed that the best qualified should get the job. There should be no discrimination, positive or negative. English, Polish, white, black, male, female. The best candidate wins.


...and If you said that as a politician you would be branded a racist.
Lets face it - its all total B****cks

Interesting to note the highest rated responses to the BBC "agenda"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31846453

LOL. They closed it within hours of opening it when they realised what the responses were.
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post Mar 12 2015, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 12 2015, 06:22 PM) *
Gordon Brown "British Jobs for British Workers" - BBC take - fine its fits our Guardian reading leftish agenda and he's looking after the working class
Nigel Farage "British Jobs for British Workers" - BBC take - racist scum - he wants to abolish the race relations laws

LOL - Do they really think people are that thick?


That's not how remember it, Gordon Brown got stick for a sound byte without any practical policy to back it up. Farage wants to remove legislation that will leave the door open for abuse, Gordon Brown had no such initiative.
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post Mar 12 2015, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 12 2015, 07:54 PM) *
That's not how remember it, Gordon Brown got stick for a sound byte without any practical policy to back it up. Farage wants to remove legislation that will leave the door open for abuse, Gordon Brown had no such initiative.


And what is "abuse"? Stopping employers from employing the people they want to as they have to fit "quotas"?
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post Mar 12 2015, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 12 2015, 08:05 PM) *
And what is "abuse"? Stopping employers from employing the people they want to as they have to fit "quotas"?

No that isn't abuse; abuse is purposely avoiding employing people because you don't like their nationality or even race.
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post Mar 12 2015, 08:33 PM
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Nigel Farage would axe 'much of' race discrimination laws
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post Mar 12 2015, 08:47 PM
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...can't see the issue anyway - what jobs? We don't even build decent trains over here anymore...

Like it or not, we'll have to let some Continentals in, or how else will we be able to learn how to operate our nuclear power stations!

Let's face it, we couldn't even find a Brit. to run the Bank of England!

Yeah, British jobs for British people......can I borrow the brush.


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post Mar 13 2015, 04:00 AM
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They do say that you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep.

Whilst it is a given that all parties will have their share of looney tunes supporters, UKIP does seem to have become the party for racists.

Find a racist and there's an above average chance they'll be supporting UKIP in May.

You have to wonder what attracts them.

Personally, I don't think the NHS should be opened up to 'the marketplace', I think legalising handguns is a dumb idea, I don't admire Putin and have no wish to join forces with him, I also don't support fox hunting, fracking, and I think restaurants and pubs smell better without exhaled smoke in them, thus UKIP will have to forego my company.
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post Mar 13 2015, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ Mar 13 2015, 04:00 AM) *
They do say that you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep.

Whilst it is a given that all parties will have their share of looney tunes supporters, UKIP does seem to have become the party for racists.

Find a racist and there's an above average chance they'll be supporting UKIP in May.

You have to wonder what attracts them.


Personally, I don't think the NHS should be opened up to 'the marketplace', I think legalising handguns is a dumb idea, I don't admire Putin and have no wish to join forces with him, I also don't support fox hunting, fracking, and I think restaurants and pubs smell better without exhaled smoke in them, thus UKIP will have to forego my company.



You do work for the BBC don't you? What utter utter drivel.


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post Mar 13 2015, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Mar 13 2015, 07:43 AM) *
You do work for the BBC don't you? What utter utter drivel.


Wow! Touched a nerve did he?

Are you saying racists aren't attratcted to UKIP?

I think Squelchy's right in the observation that all parties attract some daft buggers but UKIP seems to be a magnet for racists. He or she wondered what it was that attracted them. The rest of the points made are also UKIP policies.

So what part is drivel?

Please try and answer.
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post Mar 13 2015, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Mar 13 2015, 08:57 AM) *
Wow! Touched a nerve did he?

Are you saying racists aren't attratcted to UKIP?

I think Squelchy's right in the observation that all parties attract some daft buggers but UKIP seems to be a magnet for racists. He or she wondered what it was that attracted them. The rest of the points made are also UKIP policies.

So what part is drivel?

Please try and answer.


I'll still be voting UKIP. Call me racist. I know I'm not.
I don't give a sh!t what people tell me to do or which way I should vote.
I hope all people feel the same and are not indoctrinated by the cr@p they read in the press and hear on the BBC (aka Labour Party Broadcasting Corporation)
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post Mar 13 2015, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Mar 13 2015, 08:57 AM) *
Wow! Touched a nerve did he?

Are you saying racists aren't attratcted to UKIP?

I think Squelchy's right in the observation that all parties attract some daft buggers but UKIP seems to be a magnet for racists. He or she wondered what it was that attracted them. The rest of the points made are also UKIP policies.

So what part is drivel?

Please try and answer.



That's exactly it, 'seems to'. In all the years I have had the privilege to vote, I have never seen such a blatant surge of anti shown by the media. Read and listen to what is said by Farage, then read and see the interpretation provided by good ol' papers,tv and politicians.


The rest of Squelchy's comments follow suit.


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post Mar 13 2015, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 13 2015, 08:54 PM) *
I'll still be voting UKIP. Call me racist. I know I'm not.
I don't give a sh!t what people tell me to do or which way I should vote.
I hope all people feel the same and are not indoctrinated by the cr@p they read in the press and hear on the BBC (aka Labour Party Broadcasting Corporation)



Exactly, sod the sheeple


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post Mar 13 2015, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Mar 13 2015, 09:27 PM) *
That's exactly it, 'seems to'. In all the years I have had the privilege to vote, I have never seen such a blatant surge of anti shown by the media. Read and listen to what is said by Farage, then read and see the interpretation provided by good ol' papers,tv and politicians.


The rest of Squelchy's comments follow suit.


Could not agree more. People listen to what is "reported" but don't bother to actually read what has been said. Its all a bit George Orwell.
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