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post Aug 23 2017, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 23 2017, 12:46 PM) *
Is cruelty real, or just a human construct? Should we worry about being cruel? What difference does it make? Perhaps we are all just bags of transitional energy with a sense of our own over importance?


So we don't need to bother about anything at all, we just exist as best we can s**d everything else until our number is up. Actually, truly Darwinian and quite an attractive proposition.


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post Aug 23 2017, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 23 2017, 09:13 AM) *
Nothing like going off topic wink.gif
Very few will admit to the enjoyment of inflicting pain or killing a living creature but but many do and justify their actions accordingly .
Everything that is born will eventually die , the question is, should this be a natural progression or do we have the right to end it early for the benefit of many ?
The soldier kills an enemy before the enemy kills him and his family . The farmer breeds and subsequently kills a cow to feed his family as hunger will not wait till the animal dies of old age and if that was not the case it wouldn't have been bred in the first place .

Simplistic ? Agreed , but it is a cycle that has been in existence since life began . Those of us who have a moral outrage against such persons as a lion killing dentist or halal slaughtermen ,though in a majority , are forced to accept the status quo .

When most of the world's wildlife has been wiped out and we reflect on what we have done it will be to late ,but those who contributed most to the demise will still have the same mentality .


For me, the pleasure from killing brigade don't enjender moral outrage so much as a natural defence mechanisim that the individuals concerned aren't what I would consider to be well balanced people. So, genuinely, If I'm sitting in a dentists chair, drugged up and waiting for some puny little person tooled up with sharp dentistry kit, the last thing I'd want to know is that he got his kicks killing big game.

Perhaps it's me, but I'd really worry if my partner's riding circle decided to take a pack of underfed dogs with them and then watched whilst they ripped another breed of dog apart, more so if they decided to smother one of their number with its blood.

Still, we've all got our quirks haven't we, so not to worry!


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post Aug 24 2017, 05:21 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41040790

Nowt as strange as folk .


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post Aug 24 2017, 05:39 PM
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What's strange?
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post Aug 24 2017, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Aug 24 2017, 06:39 PM) *
What's strange?


In the context of the debate the great unwashed will happily turn a blind eye to the cruelty of food production as practised in the world at large but become sentimental over a couple of porkers who owe a debt of thanks to the local fire brigade .


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post Aug 24 2017, 06:51 PM
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What did people expect to happen? If you eat bacon it doesn't appear . magically on the bacon bush. People need to get a grip.


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post Aug 25 2017, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 24 2017, 07:51 PM) *
What did people expect to happen? If you eat bacon it doesn't appear . magically on the bacon bush. People need to get a grip.


Like they say , there is " nowt as queer as folk ". With knowledge being more accessible than at any time previous , the general ignorance of the populace is frightening .


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post Aug 25 2017, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 25 2017, 08:52 AM) *
Like they say , there is " nowt as queer as folk ". With knowledge being more accessible than at any time previous , the general ignorance of the populace is frightening .

You can take a horse to water...
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post Aug 25 2017, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 25 2017, 09:06 AM) *
You can take a horse to water...


I submit that the Dunning / Kruger effect is more prevalent than we first thought .


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