Victoria Park News, new Cafe causing disquiet at EA Options

[On the edge]

....and its frankly beyond belief that this organisation; a significant part of the formal planning process and one that apparently knows so much about the environmental conditions and rules in this particular area shoukd fail on such an elementary point.

[Simon Kirby]

....and its frankly beyond belief that this organisation; a significant part of the formal planning process and one that apparently knows so much about the environmental conditions and rules in this particular area shoukd fail on such an elementary point.

As you say, it does fundamentally undermine the credibility of the town council's planning committee. It really is time the curtain came down on this pantomime.

[Exhausted]

As you say, it does fundamentally undermine the credibility of the town council's planning committee. It really is time the curtain came down on this pantomime.

I think that what NTC have paid for was a 'concept', even the architects drawings are bland without any detail. I know it's only one up from a garden shed but the more I look at the planning application, the more I believe that the WBC planning department could not possibly have enough detail to approve this irrespective of the environmental one in a hundred event. Just compare this application with a small addition to a house in Newbury. Picked at random but it shows the standard that is normally put before the planners. http://planning.westberks.gov.uk/rpp/index...=14/00770/HOUSE.

[Cognosco]

I think that what NTC have paid for was a 'concept', even the architects drawings are bland without any detail. I know it's only one up from a garden shed but the more I look at the planning application, the more I believe that the WBC planning department could not possibly have enough detail to approve this irrespective of the environmental one in a hundred event. Just compare this application with a small addition to a house in Newbury. Picked at random but it shows the standard that is normally put before the planners. http://planning.westberks.gov.uk/rpp/index...=14/00770/HOUSE.

Another disturbing thought comes to mind, due to the amateurish antics of our Councillors, what if an operator for the cafe is unable to make a profit from this new cafe, if it ever now comes to fruition, will the precept payers have to put their hands in their pockets again?

[Simon Kirby]

I think that what NTC have paid for was a 'concept', even the architects drawings are bland without any detail. I know it's only one up from a garden shed but the more I look at the planning application, the more I believe that the WBC planning department could not possibly have enough detail to approve this irrespective of the environmental one in a hundred event. Just compare this application with a small addition to a house in Newbury. Picked at random but it shows the standard that is normally put before the planners. http://planning.westberks.gov.uk/rpp/index...=14/00770/HOUSE.

The application is on the light side.

[user23]

Another disturbing thought comes to mind, due to the amateurish antics of our Councillors

Are you implying town councillors should get paid for what they do?

[Simon Kirby]

Are you implying town councillors should get paid for what they do?

Amateurish - done in an unskilful or inept way. Incompetent, inept, useless, unskilful, inexpert, amateur, clumsy, maladroit, gauche, blundering, bungling, bumbling, botched, crude, bodged.

[user23]

Amateurish - done in an unskilful or inept way. Incompetent, inept, useless, unskilful, inexpert, amateur, clumsy, maladroit, gauche, blundering, bungling, bumbling, botched, crude, bodged.

I wondered how long it would take you to reply with something like that.

[MontyPython]

I wondered how long it would take you to reply with something like that.

What - you mean the truth?

[Simon Kirby]

I wondered how long it would take you to reply with something like that.

Simply correcting your mistaken understanding of the word "amateurish". While "amature" can mean unpaid in a literal sense "amateurish" only has the figurative meaning and I just posted you the first definition Google gave me.

Do you have an opinion on the topic of the thread?

[Cognosco]

I wondered how long it would take you to reply with something like that.

I bet staff must get used to it at WBC, being called amateurish I mean, amongst a lot worse of course!
It would seem that both our Local Authorities always seem to bring out the worst in taxpayers, you definitely seem to have it down to a fine art I must say?

Is there a weekly prize from the Supreme Leader for the member of staff who can utter the most inane statement in any form of media and wind up the public the most?

[Exhausted]

Are you implying town councillors should get paid for what they do?

They should not as they have volunteered to serve their local community and they really don't have that much to do anyway. What goes on at NTC is the effect of them historically building their own empire to satisfy their sense of importance. On the other hand, the WBC councillors do get paid and from what I can gather, get paid well for what they do. At least they don't dress up in old fashion garments and silly hats although a few of them don't seem to make too good a job of attendance at the meetings.

[user23]

Simply correcting your mistaken understanding of the word "amateurish". While "amature" can mean unpaid in a literal sense "amateurish" only has the figurative meaning and I just posted you the first definition Google gave me.

Do you have an opinion on the topic of the thread?

Doesn't take a lot to set you off.

On the topic of the thread, I think it's great. I gather there's no changing rooms, but there's no football pitch either so perhaps they're not needed.

[Exhausted]

Doesn't take a lot to set you off. On the topic of the thread, I think it's great. I gather there's no changing rooms, but there's no football pitch either so perhaps they're not needed.

I'm not sure why you bother User. Snide comments seem to be your forte, bit sad really.

[Mr Brown]

Doesn't take a lot to set you off.

On the topic of the thread, I think it's great. I gather there's no changing rooms, but there's no football pitch either so perhaps they're not needed.

Well spotted, I find that quite amazing. It means that the original design brief was seriously deficient and supports the argument of those claiming that the Town Council isn't sufficiently competent to do this properly.

[On the edge]

As you'll see from another thread, rules and guidelines don't actually apply to Councils round here.

[Andy Capp]

Of course there's no football pitch, it was all in the secrete agreement between WBC and Parkway shopping to avoid the fowl language the new exclusive residents would have to put-up with every other Sunday morning. The sinking park was just one big ruse.

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/9250..._football_pitch

[x2lls]

Of course there's no football pitch, it was all in the secrete agreement between WBC and Parkway shopping to avoid the fowl language the new exclusive residents would have to put-up with every other Sunday morning. The sinking park was just one big ruse.

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/9250..._football_pitch

Why did the chicken cross the park?

[Biker1]

to avoid the fowl language the new exclusive residents would have to put-up with every other Sunday morning.

I get that --- bloody c0ck crowing every morning!

[Lolly]

I wondered how long it would take you to reply with something like that.

The Daily Mail confirms Simon's terminology...

Drivers have been fined for parking outside bays after a bungling local authority made the spaces too short after repaint

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-29...l#ixzz3S8wMjmPf
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