Boxing Day Hunt, Vine and Craven Hunt being promoted by the NWN Options

[Strafin]

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/home/20...n-lambourn.html

I don't come on much anymore as I don't live close, but I try and keep up to date with my hometown. I am also vehemently against fox hunting and gave been looking into which groups drag hunt, which ones pretend and which ones advocate fox hunting. Woth support at an all time low, I was surprised to see that the NWN is promoting the hunt and the pictures as some sort of community event, and will be running a "feature" on it in the next copy of the paper very dissapointing.

[Andy Capp]

As far as I know, Tesco have no slaughter houses; however, according to the spiel, all Tesco supplied meat is stunned before slaughter.

But for me, critising halal slaughter is like criticising murderers using a knife instead of a gun.

[Biker1]

But for me, critising halal slaughter is like criticising murderers using a knife instead of a gun.

Eh??
We are talking about the slaughter of animals here for meat not murder!
Animals slaughtered in the conventional way (if there is a better way to put it) are (should be) stunned before slaghter.
Halal method cruelly kills them with a crude knife while still concious, in the name of religion. Horrible!
So yes, I do condemn halal slaughter. It is not part of British culture or morality!

[TallDarkAndHands...]

It is not part of British culture or morality!

Give it a few years... The Andy and Newres apologists will make it the norm. All the while chasing a few dozen knobs on horseback in the Countryside shouting "shame".

[newres]

Give it a few years... The Andy and Newres apologists will make it the norm. All the while chasing a few dozen knobs on horseback in the Countryside shouting "shame".

Actually I have no view on hunting really. It's not something I'd do as I don't like horses or killing things. Although I eat meat I really feel uncomfortable with all slaughter. I'm no lover of Muslims as you portray than I am a lover of Catholics and certainly don't like the thought of unnecessary suffering although I'm not sure that in paractice Halal is any more cruel than our own slaughterhouses.

Sorry to not fit your stereotype.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Sorry to not fit your stereotype.

Oh the irony.....

[newres]

Oh the irony.....

Well to drag a thread about newspaper coverage of a Boxing Day hunt into yet another anti Muslim rant conforms exactly.

[Biker1]

Well to drag a thread about newspaper coverage of a Boxing Day hunt into yet another anti Muslim rant conforms exactly.

Anti halal actually.
The subject of the way animals are killed and for what reason links the two.

[newres]

Anti halal actually.
The subject of the way animals are killed and for what reason links the two.

Ah, but it wasn't like that. It was "Boo!! Disgusting!!! Wearing a red jacket and riding a horse through the countryside with a very slight chance every blue moon of catching an animal . Shameful!! Persecute these despicable beings!! Slaughter without stunning of tens of thousands of animals every day of every week...... let's brush over that in case we upset the minorities...."

And that unleashed:

"Both are just plain wrong. But its PC to diss the boxing day hunt. The slaughter of animals without stunning is religion innit. Gotta make exceptions... Brush that one over."

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Ah, but it wasn't like that. It was "Boo!! Disgusting!!! Wearing a red jacket and riding a horse through the countryside with a very slight chance every blue moon of catching an animal . Shameful!! Persecute these despicable beings!! Slaughter without stunning of tens of thousands of animals every day of every week...... let's brush over that in case we upset the minorities...."

And that unleashed:

"Both are just plain wrong. But its PC to diss the boxing day hunt. The slaughter of animals without stunning is religion innit. Gotta make exceptions... Brush that one over."

Untrue? Also I did not mention any particular religion. Personally I think killing animals without stunning them is an abhorrent practice. But hey we are all entitled to opinions. Im also not PC and call things out when I think they are wrong. Im not always right but at least I stimulate debate.

[newres]

Untrue? Also I did not mention any particular religion. Personally I think killing animals without stunning them is an abhorrent practice. But hey we are all entitled to opinions. Im also not PC and call things out when I think they are wrong. Im not always right but at least I stimulate debate.

But there is a big difference between killing animals for fun and killing them for food. I personally think it's hypocritical to say one method of slaughtering is ok but not another. Any slaughterhouse is a pretty horrible thing to contemplate. And to make a broader point imposing our values on other faiths only ever seems to end badly. If you want to know, I find many aspects of Middle Eastern culture abhorrent, but I don't think it's for us to get involved.

[Andy Capp]

But there is a big difference between killing animals for fun and killing them for food. I personally think it's hypocritical to say one method of slaughtering is ok but not another. Any slaughterhouse is a pretty horrible thing to contemplate. And to make a broader point imposing our values on other faiths only ever seems to end badly. If you want to know, I find many aspects of Middle Eastern culture abhorrent, but I don't think it's for us to get involved.

I'm mindful that I'm not a vegetarian and a soft atheist, but my view is our meat should be stunned before slaughter without exception. I would also strengthen abattoir practice including unannounced inspections and possibly video cameras.

[newres]

I'm mindful that I'm not a vegetarian and a soft atheist, but my view is our meat should be stunned before slaughter without exception. I would also strengthen abattoir practice including unannounced inspections and possibly video cameras.

I think I would agree that animals should be stunned first, although probably the ideal way is a bullet through the head. The way it's done is pretty vile whichever and I suspect the treatment is pretty regularly inhumane.

[je suis Charlie]

I think I would agree that animals should be stunned first, although probably the ideal way is a bullet through the head. The way it's done is pretty vile whichever and I suspect the treatment is pretty regularly inhumane.

"A halal poultry company supplying major supermarkets in Britain has admitted failings after its factory workers boiled chickens alive."

"The company, co-owned by "chicken king" multi-millionaire Ranjit Singh Boparan, was this month fined £8,000 and ordered to pay £6,000 costs after admitting causing unnecessary suffering to the chickens, The Times reported."

From today's news feed.

[newres]

"A halal poultry company supplying major supermarkets in Britain has admitted failings after its factory workers boiled chickens alive."

"The company, co-owned by "chicken king" multi-millionaire Ranjit Singh Boparan, was this month fined £8,000 and ordered to pay £6,000 costs after admitting causing unnecessary suffering to the chickens, The Times reported."

From today's news feed.

I'm guessing these abuses only take place in halal factories in much the same way that grooming of young girls is only carried out by Asians.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I'm guessing these abuses only take place in halal factories in much the same way that grooming of young girls is only carried out by Asians.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38457257

Yes evil exists in all parts of society. But... Overall I think the traditional western culture of the last 50 years affords more respect to women. Perhaps I am wrong and all these stories are pedalled by the right wing facist BBC....

[newres]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38457257

Yes evil exists in all parts of society. But... Overall I think the traditional western culture of the last 50 years affords more respect to women. Perhaps I am wrong and all these stories are pedalled by the right wing facist BBC....

I wonder if the domestic violence court cases back that up.

And doubtless all interferers of young boys are football coaches...... this week.

[Biker1]

I wonder if the domestic violence court cases back that up.

Well you could try "googling" it and see!
Also, while you're at it try the same for ......
FGM
Forced marriage, and
"Honour" based violence.

[newres]

Well you could try "googling" it and see!
Also, while you're at it try the same for ......
FGM
Forced marriage, and
"Honour" based violence.

On FGM, have a watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV0QXO6YfzAb

[Biker1]

On FGM, have a watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV0QXO6YfzAb

go yo youtube and there is always a counter argument!

[newres]

go yo youtube and there is always a counter argument!

That's actually laughable. You can find anything on the internet, but it doesn't actually appear to challenge any facts if you can get past the opening insults.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

That's actually laughable. You can find anything on the internet, but it doesn't actually appear to challenge any facts if you can get past the opening insults.

http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-06-15

[newres]

http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-06-15

I'm not particularly left wing. I just don't like small town, small minded bigotry.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I'm not particularly left wing. I just don't like small town, small minded bigotry.

I know. Shocking. Everywhere in the Country apart from London has small minded bigoted union jack waving facist racist white supremacist UKIPPERS making up the majority of the population. I think London should perhaps split from the rest of the UK. You could make the M25 the border.

[newres]

I know. Shocking. Everywhere in the Country apart from London has small minded bigoted union jack waving facist racist white supremacist UKIPPERS making up the majority of the population. I think London should perhaps split from the rest of the UK. You could make the M25 the border.

In Newbury you are in the minority. I guess because we have a generally better educated and more affluent populace.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

In Newbury you are in the minority. I guess because we have a generally better educated and more affluent populace.

48%. Thats less than 52%. I may be in the minority in good old Newbury town but..... Tee hee I don't care! Presume you'll be tuning into Nige on LBC. You love him. You want to have his babies.😂