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Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 15 2011, 01:21 PM
I posted a poll at the other local forum after seeing a poll on facebook, so thought it would be good to do one here. Who will you be voting for?
Posted by: dannyboy Apr 15 2011, 01:41 PM
No one.
total and utter waste of 10 mins of my life, which could be better spent doing something far less pointless.
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 15 2011, 01:45 PM
QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 15 2011, 01:41 PM) 
No one.
total and utter waste of 10 mins of my life, which could be better spent doing something far less pointless.
total and utter waste of 10 mins of my life, which could be better spent doing something far less pointless.
Playing devils advocate, what about the services you value? If you don't vote and services are decimated, how can you come on here and complain when you didn't vote?
Posted by: dannyboy Apr 15 2011, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 02:45 PM)
Playing devils advocate, what about the services you value? If you don't vote and services are decimated, how can you come on here and complain when you didn't vote?
No I will not be voting.
I have not voted in a single election, local or national. Ever. There is no point.
To be decimated, services would have to be less than 10% of what they are now, but that is another matter.
The provision of local services are independent of which party is in power.
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 15 2011, 01:58 PM
QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 15 2011, 01:51 PM)
No I will not be voting.
I have not voted in a single election, local or national. Ever. There is no point.
To be decimated, services would have to be less than 10% of what they are now, but that is another matter.
The provision of local services are independent of which party is in power.
I have not voted in a single election, local or national. Ever. There is no point.
To be decimated, services would have to be less than 10% of what they are now, but that is another matter.
The provision of local services are independent of which party is in power.
On that basis then, education in West Berkshire is already down 8%, and is being cut further next year!!! Children Centres already cut by 5% with more to follow, Libraries already cut by £300,000. Even Day centres and youth clubs have already been "decimated" by the Conservative administration using your terminology, not mine.
So why would you continue to defend them?
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 15 2011, 01:59 PM
QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 15 2011, 01:51 PM)
The provision of local services are independent of which party is in power.
That may be so, but councillors are supposed to take decisions, not unelected officers.
Posted by: dannyboy Apr 15 2011, 02:07 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 02:58 PM)
On that basis then, education in West Berkshire is already down 8%, and is being cut further next year!!! Children Centres already cut by 5% with more to follow, Libraries already cut by £300,000. Even Day centres and youth clubs have already been "decimated" by the Conservative administration using your terminology, not mine.
So why would you continue to defend them?
So why would you continue to defend them?
I'm not defending anyone. Mere;y pointing out that it matters not who is running the show.
Isn't central govet taking up the slack?
Posted by: dannyboy Apr 15 2011, 02:08 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 02:59 PM)
That may be so, but councillors are supposed to take decisions, not unelected officers.
and decisions based upon?
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 15 2011, 02:14 PM
QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 15 2011, 02:07 PM)
I'm not defending anyone. Mere;y pointing out that it matters not who is running the show.
Isn't central govet taking up the slack?
Isn't central govet taking up the slack?
Cameron and Pickles have said that current Government funding should allow councils to protect key services. You typically defend the West Berks administration on most things.
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Apr 15 2011, 02:27 PM
Go Apolitical Democrats. Shame Miss Whiplash is not standing. 
Posted by: Strafin Apr 15 2011, 03:06 PM
I won't be voting - I have served as a councillor, a branch chairman for the conservatives, a conservative future chairman and served on several steering groups and commitees. I have got involved with politics nationally and locally and if I decide not to vote this time I think I have a right to do so and still complain. I hate the line if you don't vote you can't complain. Should I vote for someone I disagree with? Then I could complain but not really because I voted for them? That's a bit of a paradox. I'm with Dannyboy and even if I went and voted tory, my wife would go and vote Lib Dem, so I'd rather stay in.
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 15 2011, 03:47 PM
QUOTE (Strafin @ Apr 15 2011, 04:06 PM)
I won't be voting - I have served as a councillor, a branch chairman for the conservatives, a conservative future chairman and served on several steering groups and commitees. I have got involved with politics nationally and locally and if I decide not to vote this time I think I have a right to do so and still complain. I hate the line if you don't vote you can't complain. Should I vote for someone I disagree with? Then I could complain but not really because I voted for them? That's a bit of a paradox. I'm with Dannyboy and even if I went and voted tory, my wife would go and vote Lib Dem, so I'd rather stay in.
Agree there is no one standing in my area apart from Conservative or Lib Dem so I have no one to vote for.
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 15 2011, 03:51 PM
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 15 2011, 02:27 PM)
Go Apolitical Democrats. Shame Miss Whiplash is not standing.
Miss Whiplash??
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 15 2011, 03:52 PM
QUOTE (Strafin @ Apr 15 2011, 03:06 PM)
I won't be voting - I have served as a councillor, a branch chairman for the conservatives, a conservative future chairman and served on several steering groups and commitees. I have got involved with politics nationally and locally and if I decide not to vote this time I think I have a right to do so and still complain. I hate the line if you don't vote you can't complain. Should I vote for someone I disagree with? Then I could complain but not really because I voted for them? That's a bit of a paradox. I'm with Dannyboy and even if I went and voted tory, my wife would go and vote Lib Dem, so I'd rather stay in.
I take your point.
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 15 2011, 06:41 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 02:45 PM)
Playing devils advocate, what about the services you value? If you don't vote and services are decimated, how can you come on here and complain when you didn't vote?
I'm going to spoil my ballot paper. I'm utterly fed up with local politicians, a plague of pox on the lot of them.
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 15 2011, 06:41 PM
*oh FFS*
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 15 2011, 07:07 PM
Yes. Independent, or spoil it, is my view. Lib Dems and the Tories are the same thing locally.
Posted by: GMR Apr 15 2011, 07:41 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 15 2011, 08:07 PM)
Yes. Independent, or spoil it, is my view. Lib Dems and the Tories are the same thing locally.
They are not totally the same... for a start both names are different and spelt differently.
Posted by: blackdog Apr 15 2011, 08:32 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 04:51 PM)
Miss Whiplash??
Showing your youth Richard - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindi_St_Clair.
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 15 2011, 09:03 PM
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 15 2011, 02:27 PM)
Go Apolitical Democrats. Shame Miss Whiplash is not standing.
I've heard of Miss Whiplash (the real one), but using the context of the quoted post, I was trying to think what relevance Miss Whiplash had to the Apoliticals!!!
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 15 2011, 09:49 PM
QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 15 2011, 02:51 PM)
To be decimated, services would have to be less than 10% of what they are now, but that is another matter.
Actually decimation was killing every tenth man, not sparing every tenth man, so a decimated service would be reduced by 10%, not reduced to 10%.
Posted by: Turin Machine Apr 15 2011, 10:00 PM
Oh My God !! Lindi !! where are you now ?? why dont you write any more ? Can I have my gerbil back if you've finished with it ?
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 15 2011, 10:25 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 15 2011, 10:49 PM)
QUOTE ( dannyboy @ Apr 15 2011, 02:51 PM)
To be decimated, services would have to be less than 10% of what they are now, but that is another matter.
Actually decimation was killing every tenth man, not sparing every tenth man, so a decimated service would be reduced by 10%, not reduced to 10%.And the closet Tory councillor gets pwned!
Posted by: Biker1 Apr 16 2011, 08:30 AM
QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 15 2011, 02:41 PM)
No one.
total and utter waste of 10 mins of my life, which could be better spent doing something far less pointless.
total and utter waste of 10 mins of my life, which could be better spent doing something far less pointless.
If your right to vote was taken away and we lost our democracy would you complain?
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 16 2011, 09:12 AM
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Apr 16 2011, 09:30 AM)
If your right to vote was taken away and we lost our democracy would you complain?
Not to us.
Posted by: blackdog Apr 16 2011, 03:20 PM
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Apr 16 2011, 09:30 AM)
If your right to vote was taken away and we lost our democracy would you complain?
Of course not - it wouldn't be allowed!
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 16 2011, 05:56 PM
QUOTE (Biker1 @ Apr 16 2011, 09:30 AM)
If your right to vote was taken away and we lost our democracy would you complain?
Is it democracy when there are only two candidates? Both of who are in allegiance with one another.
AV will be no use to me, or I suspect many others, when this occurs with this situation.I do believe it will mean that the majority of voters and those who did not vote do not want whoever was elected?
Posted by: user23 Apr 16 2011, 06:01 PM
QUOTE (Cognosco @ Apr 16 2011, 06:56 PM)
Is it democracy when there are only two candidates? Both of who are in allegiance with one another.
AV will be no use to me, or I suspect many others, when this occurs with this situation.I do believe it will mean that the majority of voters and those who did not vote do not want whoever was elected?
Where are there only two candidates in allegiance with one another?AV will be no use to me, or I suspect many others, when this occurs with this situation.I do believe it will mean that the majority of voters and those who did not vote do not want whoever was elected?
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 16 2011, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (user23 @ Apr 16 2011, 07:01 PM)
Where are there only two candidates in allegiance with one another?
Clay Hill. Now that the two main parties are engaged nationally they are all but the same locally. They always have been only difference has been the colour of the banners. One is blue the other orange.
Posted by: user23 Apr 16 2011, 06:15 PM
QUOTE (Cognosco @ Apr 16 2011, 07:09 PM)
Clay Hill. Now that the two main parties are engaged nationally they are all but the same locally. They always have been only difference has been the colour of the banners. One is blue the other orange.
You know nothing about politics in Newbury if you think that to be the case.I think you should actually speak to the candidates before making such ill informed statements publicly.
Also, there six people and three parties contesting Clay Hill rather than two as you suggest.
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 16 2011, 07:39 PM
QUOTE (Cognosco @ Apr 16 2011, 06:09 PM)
Clay Hill. Now that the two main parties are engaged nationally they are all but the same locally. They always have been only difference has been the colour of the banners. One is blue the other orange.
Labour are standing two candidates in Clay Hill.
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 16 2011, 07:58 PM
QUOTE (user23 @ Apr 16 2011, 07:15 PM)
You know nothing about politics in Newbury if you think that to be the case.
I think you should actually speak to the candidates before making such ill informed statements publicly.
Also, there six people and three parties contesting Clay Hill rather than two as you suggest.
I think you should actually speak to the candidates before making such ill informed statements publicly.
Also, there six people and three parties contesting Clay Hill rather than two as you suggest.
Still only two parties as far as I am concerned now that Cons are engaged with Libs. Labour as you seem to imply have no chance in Newbury?
As to asking the candidates? That is a complete joke is it not after the questions asked at the last election and the answers given? Every answer given has been renegade on or completely forgotten. Look at the mess WBC has made of Newbury. Look at the state of NTC. Enough said?
Posted by: panda Apr 16 2011, 08:04 PM
QUOTE (Cognosco @ Apr 16 2011, 08:58 PM)
Still only two parties as far as I am concerned now that Cons are engaged with Libs. Labour as you seem to imply have no chance in Newbury?
As to asking the candidates? That is a complete joke is it not after the questions asked at the last election and the answers given? Every answer given has been renegade on or completely forgotten. Look at the mess WBC has made of Newbury. Look at the state of NTC. Enough said?
As to asking the candidates? That is a complete joke is it not after the questions asked at the last election and the answers given? Every answer given has been renegade on or completely forgotten. Look at the mess WBC has made of Newbury. Look at the state of NTC. Enough said?
your quite a sad person really. do you have any friends????
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 16 2011, 08:14 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 16 2011, 09:04 PM)
your quite a sad person really. do you have any friends????
His quite a sad person really what?
You standing this time round then panda?
Posted by: panda Apr 16 2011, 08:25 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 16 2011, 09:14 PM)
His quite a sad person really what?
You standing this time round then panda?
You standing this time round then panda?
i'm sitting at the moment. Are you standing, oh no you chickened out didn't you
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 16 2011, 09:00 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 16 2011, 09:25 PM)
i'm sitting at the moment.
Sure're you're not lying?
Posted by: panda Apr 16 2011, 09:05 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 16 2011, 10:00 PM)
Sure're you're not lying?
why did you back out from standing. were you frightened of not getting any votes???
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 16 2011, 09:29 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 16 2011, 09:04 PM)
your quite a sad person really. do you have any friends????
Any more personal abuse like that and I will complain to the NWN, but I doubt I will get the same results as councillors might!
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 16 2011, 09:25 PM)
i'm sitting at the moment. Are you standing, oh no you chickened out didn't you
Who rattled your cage panda?
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 16 2011, 10:05 PM)
why did you back out from standing. were you frightened of not getting any votes???
Something any Tory candidate (or Lib Dem for that matter) need not worry about, eh?
Posted by: panda Apr 16 2011, 09:53 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 16 2011, 10:29 PM)
Any more personal abuse like that and I will complain to the NWN, but I doubt I will get the same results as councillors might!
Who rattled your cage panda?
Something any Tory candidate (or Lib Dem for that matter) need not worry about, eh?
Who rattled your cage panda?
Something any Tory candidate (or Lib Dem for that matter) need not worry about, eh?
why are you answering questions i put to Simon. Can't he speak for himself.
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 16 2011, 10:02 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 16 2011, 10:53 PM)
why are you answering questions i put to Simon. Can't he speak for himself.
I'm sure Simon is more than capable of looking after himself, however; are you usually this nasty to people? You haven't posted on here for days, and the first three things you post are catty.
You seem rather sensitive to criticism of NTC.
Posted by: panda Apr 16 2011, 10:07 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 16 2011, 11:02 PM)
I'm sure Simon is more than capable of looking after himself. However; are you usually this nasty to people? You haven't posted on here for days, and the first three things you post are to be catty.
well someone asked where i was, so here i am. If you dont want me on here then dont ask.
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 16 2011, 10:10 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 16 2011, 11:07 PM)
well someone asked where i was, so here i am. If you dont want me on here then dont ask.
I didn't ask you to post, I only wondered where you had got to. Perhaps things are getting a bit busier for you lately?
Posted by: panda Apr 16 2011, 10:20 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 16 2011, 11:10 PM)
I didn't ask you to post, I only wondered where you had got to. Perhaps things are getting a bit busier for you lately?
yes just like your overactive mind. I enjoy you and your little group putting the world to right. I know i'm safe in your hands. If the prime minister would let you run the country, i know we would all be so much better off.
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 17 2011, 12:12 AM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 16 2011, 11:20 PM)
yes just like your overactive mind. I enjoy you and your little group putting the world to right. I know i'm safe in your hands. If the prime minister would let you run the country, i know we would all be so much better off.
Talk about an over active mind!
Posted by: Strafin Apr 17 2011, 06:30 AM
Panda's are endangered aren't they?
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 17 2011, 09:55 AM
QUOTE (Strafin @ Apr 17 2011, 07:30 AM)
Panda's are endangered aren't they?
Pandas are, yes. They have trouble socialising I understand.
On topic: while this is hardly scientific, the poll shows that the left wing parties seem to split the opposition vote. Maybe they would be better as a 'coalition'.
Posted by: user23 Apr 17 2011, 10:07 AM
QUOTE (Cognosco @ Apr 16 2011, 08:58 PM)
Still only two parties as far as I am concerned now that Cons are engaged with Libs. Labour as you seem to imply have no chance in Newbury?
As to asking the candidates? That is a complete joke is it not after the questions asked at the last election and the answers given? Every answer given has been renegade on or completely forgotten. Look at the mess WBC has made of Newbury. Look at the state of NTC. Enough said?
The only "complete joke" is your attitude to local politics.As to asking the candidates? That is a complete joke is it not after the questions asked at the last election and the answers given? Every answer given has been renegade on or completely forgotten. Look at the mess WBC has made of Newbury. Look at the state of NTC. Enough said?
You think the Conservatives and Lib Dems are "engaged" in Newbury (I presume this means some sort of coalition or agreement) when this simply isn't true, you didn't realise Labour were standing in your ward and you didn't stand yourself yet you still complain that there's no choice of candidates.
Some people really don't help themselves, do they.
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 17 2011, 10:20 AM
The evidence indicates the majority of people vote for parties before personalities. This puts independents at a severe disadvantage.
Posted by: GMR Apr 17 2011, 10:28 AM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 17 2011, 11:20 AM)
The evidence indicates the majority of people vote for parties before personalities. This puts independents at a severe disadvantage.
I think you are right to a point. People vote for 'personalities' but within their leaders of the major parties. That is 'personalities' need a powerful party machine to back them.
Thatcher was regarded as having a better personality than Callaghan and Foot. Major was regarded as having a better personality than the Welsh windbag, the same with Blair over Major/ Hague etc. And now Cameron over Brown.
Posted by: user23 Apr 17 2011, 10:32 AM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 17 2011, 11:20 AM)
The evidence indicates the majority of people vote for parties before personalities. This puts independents at a severe disadvantage.
This is very true, when people won't even talk to their candidates.Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 17 2011, 01:08 PM
QUOTE (user23 @ Apr 17 2011, 11:07 AM)
The only "complete joke" is your attitude to local politics.
You think the Conservatives and Lib Dems are "engaged" in Newbury (I presume this means some sort of coalition or agreement) when this simply isn't true, you didn't realise Labour were standing in your ward and you didn't stand yourself yet you still complain that there's no choice of candidates.
Some people really don't help themselves, do they.
You think the Conservatives and Lib Dems are "engaged" in Newbury (I presume this means some sort of coalition or agreement) when this simply isn't true, you didn't realise Labour were standing in your ward and you didn't stand yourself yet you still complain that there's no choice of candidates.
Some people really don't help themselves, do they.
Do stop, you're embarrassing yourself. The unholy alliance at NTC started early 2008 and the two parties have hardly dared say boo to each other since, saving that spat over who was to "lead" the council. Read the minutes from http://www.newbury.gov.uk/minutes08/minutesfc080128.pdf and http://www.newbury.gov.uk/minutes08/minutesfc080128.pdf. NTC had been in trouble for some time, but this is where it went off the rails. There should have been a public holding to account for the individuals concerned but the council bottled it, and while the business remains unresolved it continues to blight everything that NTC does.
Posted by: JeffG Apr 17 2011, 01:27 PM
I see oldharry hasn't voted in the poll yet. 
Posted by: Strafin Apr 17 2011, 01:56 PM
How do you know?
Posted by: user23 Apr 17 2011, 02:01 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 17 2011, 02:08 PM)
Do stop, you're embarrassing yourself. The unholy alliance at NTC started...
I was talking about the district council.Still, any chance to have a dig at NTC, hey.
Posted by: JeffG Apr 17 2011, 02:05 PM
QUOTE (Strafin @ Apr 17 2011, 02:56 PM)
How do you know?
I refer you to post #91 http://forum.newburytoday.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=1231&st=90
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 04:02 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 17 2011, 02:08 PM)
Do stop, you're embarrassing yourself. The unholy alliance at NTC started early 2008 and the two parties have hardly dared say boo to each other since, saving that spat over who was to "lead" the council. Read the minutes from http://www.newbury.gov.uk/minutes08/minutesfc080128.pdf and http://www.newbury.gov.uk/minutes08/minutesfc080128.pdf. NTC had been in trouble for some time, but this is where it went off the rails. There should have been a public holding to account for the individuals concerned but the council bottled it, and while the business remains unresolved it continues to blight everything that NTC does.
What a surprise, lets have a go at NTC.
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 17 2011, 04:26 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 05:02 PM)
What a surprise, lets have a go at NTC.
Any particular reason you'd prefer this business at NTC to remain unresolved panda?
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 04:43 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 17 2011, 05:26 PM)
Any particular reason you'd prefer this business at NTC to remain unresolved panda?
Here we go, bringing up minutes from 3years ago. I expect it has been resolved what ever your getting at. Has anyone resolved you
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 17 2011, 04:46 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 05:43 PM)
Here we go, bringing up minutes from 3years ago. I expect it has been resolved what ever your getting at. Has anyone resolved you
What about my getting at?
Anywho, you standing for the council panda?
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 04:52 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 17 2011, 05:46 PM)
What about my getting at?
Anywho, you standing for the council panda?
Anywho, you standing for the council panda?
no. are you, oh no you chickened out didn't you
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 17 2011, 04:55 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 05:52 PM)
no.
Perhaps that's a resolution of sorts.
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 04:59 PM
still not answering questions are you. you have to leave that for other people on here.
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 17 2011, 05:21 PM
QUOTE (user23 @ Apr 17 2011, 11:07 AM)
The only "complete joke" is your attitude to local politics.
You think the Conservatives and Lib Dems are "engaged" in Newbury (I presume this means some sort of coalition or agreement) when this simply isn't true, you didn't realise Labour were standing in your ward and you didn't stand yourself yet you still complain that there's no choice of candidates.
Some people really don't help themselves, do they.
You think the Conservatives and Lib Dems are "engaged" in Newbury (I presume this means some sort of coalition or agreement) when this simply isn't true, you didn't realise Labour were standing in your ward and you didn't stand yourself yet you still complain that there's no choice of candidates.
Some people really don't help themselves, do they.
Can you prove that there is no coalition in Newbury between the Cons and the Libs?
I did know Labour were standing in my ward but I heeded your advise that they stood no chance of winning so have discounted them.
Unable to stand myself due to work and family commitments also not a member of any funny handshake lodges.
So still no one to vote for. I would have liked a truly independent then I would have given voting a go but alas not now.
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 17 2011, 05:23 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 05:52 PM)
no. are you, oh no you chickened out didn't you
How do you know?
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 17 2011, 05:25 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 16 2011, 09:04 PM)
your quite a sad person really. do you have any friends????
I did have friends but decided to try and compete with you and have got rid of them now.
Are you standing for councillor this time round?
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 05:25 PM
QUOTE (Cognosco @ Apr 17 2011, 06:21 PM)
Can you prove that there is no coalition in Newbury between the Cons and the Libs?
I did know Labour were standing in my ward but I heeded your advise that they stood no chance of winning so have discounted them.
Unable to stand myself due to work and family commitments also not a member of any funny handshake lodges.
So still no one to vote for. I would have liked a truly independent then I would have given voting a go but alas not now.
I did know Labour were standing in my ward but I heeded your advise that they stood no chance of winning so have discounted them.
Unable to stand myself due to work and family commitments also not a member of any funny handshake lodges.
So still no one to vote for. I would have liked a truly independent then I would have given voting a go but alas not now.
never mind. If kirby had not chickened out, maybe you could have voted for him. Then he would have got two votes
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 17 2011, 05:27 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 16 2011, 11:07 PM)
well someone asked where i was, so here i am. If you dont want me on here then dont ask.
I think you were just getting withdrawal symptoms. You were missing Simon weren't you?
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 05:27 PM
you lot keep asking the same questions. dont any of you read the posts????
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 17 2011, 05:28 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 06:25 PM)
never mind. If kirby had not chickened out, maybe you could have voted for him. Then he would have got two votes
He doesn't have a biased press on his side. A press that deems Fair Comment as potentially libellous.
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 05:37 PM
good old Simon, still cant answer for himself
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 17 2011, 05:39 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 06:27 PM)
you lot keep asking the same questions. dont any of you read the posts????
You keep slagging Simon Kirby off at every opportunity. We all have our habits.
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 17 2011, 05:39 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 06:37 PM)
good old Simon, still cant answer for himself
Sorry, I must have missed something. What's the question again?
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 17 2011, 05:40 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 06:37 PM)
good old Simon, still cant answer for himself
And why should that be a problem?
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 05:42 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 17 2011, 06:39 PM)
Sorry, I must have missed something. What's the question again?
good one. anything to avoid your downfall
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 17 2011, 05:43 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 17 2011, 06:39 PM)
Sorry, I must have missed something. What's the question again?
I'm not sure there was one. It seem
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 17 2011, 05:43 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 06:42 PM)
good one. anything to avoid your downfall
What downfall is that?
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 17 2011, 05:43 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 05:02 PM)
What a surprise, lets have a go at NTC.
what a surprise, lets have a go at Simon?
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 05:47 PM
Firt Simon was standing, then he was going to support Richard Garvie, now he is going to spoil his paper. Ithink you should make your mind up before it's to late.
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 17 2011, 05:49 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 06:47 PM)
Ithink you should make your mind up before it's to late.
Is that a threat?
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 05:52 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 17 2011, 06:49 PM)
Is that a threat?
you are funny
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 05:53 PM
but still no real answer frim him
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 05:53 PM
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Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 17 2011, 05:57 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 06:25 PM)
If kirby had not chickened out...
That's a fowl thing to say.
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 06:06 PM
still no real answer and now he has gone out of the forum. Maybe the others on here can start to realise what kind of person he really is. Any questions you ask are just shoved to one side. He will be back later and say that he missed all that was said and then carry on as normal.
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 17 2011, 06:18 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 07:06 PM)
still no real answer and now he has gone out of the forum. Maybe the others on here can start to realise what kind of person he really is. Any questions you ask are just shoved to one side. He will be back later and say that he missed all that was said and then carry on as normal.
I think he has gone to lay down in a dark room with a cold flannel on his forehead?
It will take him some time to try and work out just what the question was? You have baffled me again.
You could do with some self management you know?
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 06:23 PM
QUOTE (Cognosco @ Apr 17 2011, 07:18 PM)
I think he has gone to lay down in a dark room with a cold flannel on his forehead?
It will take him some time to try and work out just what the question was? You have baffled me again.
You could do with some self management you know?
It will take him some time to try and work out just what the question was? You have baffled me again.
You could do with some self management you know?
I like that one. But you are jumping to his rescue again
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 17 2011, 06:45 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 17 2011, 06:43 PM)
What downfall is that?
panda, I asked you what downfall. Would you answer that? Outside of normal human compassion, I have no care what happens to Simon Kirby politically; why does it concern you so much? Perhaps he has hurt you in the past. Why the vendetta against him. You have never really answered that. You have ducked that.
Posted by: panda Apr 17 2011, 08:07 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 17 2011, 07:45 PM)
panda, I asked you what downfall. Would you answer that? Outside of normal human compassion, I have no care what happens to Simon Kirby politically; why does it concern you so much? Perhaps he has hurt you in the past. Why the vendetta against him. You have never really answered that. You have ducked that.
yes i agree
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 17 2011, 09:53 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 09:07 PM)
yes i agree
So what is the downfall you speak of?
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 17 2011, 10:23 PM
QUOTE (panda @ Apr 17 2011, 06:42 PM)
good one. anything to avoid your downfall
I didn't stand mainly because I judged that I didn't have a realistic chance of being elected.
Posted by: dannyboy Apr 18 2011, 11:48 AM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 15 2011, 10:49 PM)
Actually decimation was killing every tenth man, not sparing every tenth man, so a decimated service would be reduced by 10%, not reduced to 10%.
I'm aware of the word's Roman origins, thanks, and its modern meaning.
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 18 2011, 12:20 PM
QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 18 2011, 12:48 PM)
I'm aware of the word's Roman origins, thanks, and its modern meaning.
But failed to implement the old meaning properly!
Posted by: CharlieF Apr 19 2011, 01:57 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 10:03 PM)
I've heard of Miss Whiplash (the real one), but using the context of the quoted post, I was trying to think what relevance Miss Whiplash had to the Apoliticals!!!
So was I!!
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 23 2011, 08:01 AM
QUOTE (CharlieF @ Apr 19 2011, 01:57 PM)
So was I!!
How's the campaigning going?
Posted by: Cognosco Apr 23 2011, 12:12 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 17 2011, 10:53 PM)
So what is the downfall you speak of?
She is unable to find time to answer at the moment, campaigning?
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 23 2011, 01:20 PM
QUOTE (Cognosco @ Apr 23 2011, 01:12 PM)
She is unable to find time to answer at the moment, campaigning?
That's what we all thought!
Posted by: user23 Apr 23 2011, 04:55 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 23 2011, 02:20 PM)
That's what we all thought!
He's been quiet of late. Perhaps he's been told to calm it down on here so not to embarrass Labour any further?
Posted by: Andy Capp Apr 23 2011, 05:44 PM
QUOTE (user23 @ Apr 23 2011, 05:55 PM)
He's been quiet of late. Perhaps he's been told to calm it down on here so not to embarrass Labour any further?
Or perhaps we were not talking about RG at all, but a Tory councillor?
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 23 2011, 05:53 PM
QUOTE (user23 @ Apr 23 2011, 04:55 PM)
He's been quiet of late.
Perhaps he's been told to calm it down on here so not to embarrass Labour any further?
Perhaps he's been told to calm it down on here so not to embarrass Labour any further?
As usual, our buddy from the council takes a chance to try and have a pop at me. I haven't been that quiet to be honest, just commenting where and when appropriate. I've been out campaigning a lot, and the response has been great in most areas.
Posted by: NWNREADER Apr 23 2011, 06:44 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 23 2011, 06:53 PM)
As usual, our buddy from the council takes a chance to try and have a pop at me. I haven't been that quiet to be honest, just commenting where and when appropriate. I've been out campaigning a lot, and the response has been great in most areas.
It matters not what is said, only where the 'X' goes.
Just as with candidates - it matters not what they say, but what they do....
Posted by: user23 Apr 24 2011, 08:02 AM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 23 2011, 06:53 PM)
As usual, our buddy from the council takes a chance to try and have a pop at me. I haven't been that quiet to be honest, just commenting where and when appropriate. I've been out campaigning a lot, and the response has been great in most areas.
I'm not "from the council" Richard.I was just commenting that you don't seem to be starting the same number of threads you used to on here and questioning that it may have have been a result of your catalogue of faux pas documented by yourself online.
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 24 2011, 09:19 AM
QUOTE (user23 @ Apr 24 2011, 08:02 AM)
I'm not "from the council" Richard.
I was just commenting that you don't seem to be starting the same number of threads you used to on here and questioning that it may have have been a result of your catalogue of faux pas documented by yourself online.
I was just commenting that you don't seem to be starting the same number of threads you used to on here and questioning that it may have have been a result of your catalogue of faux pas documented by yourself online.
You really are boring. With the council now in Purdah, very little info is coming out that hasn't been discussed before. So why start new threads for the sake of it?
Posted by: user23 Apr 24 2011, 09:38 AM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 24 2011, 10:19 AM)
You really are boring. With the council now in Purdah, very little info is coming out that hasn't been discussed before. So why start new threads for the sake of it?
As mentioned in another thread as I understand it, the current Members remain Members until just after the election. There is no Purdah, not similar to the House of Commons anyway; fell free to check this though.What I read into your statement is there's nothing to attack and try to make political capital out of which is why you haven't started any new threads recently. What you should be doing is promoting your own policies but perhaps you don't believe in them enough given may have been quickly been proved unworkable, on here.
Posted by: NWNREADER Apr 24 2011, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (user23 @ Apr 24 2011, 10:38 AM)
As mentioned in another thread as I understand it, the current Members remain Members until just after the election. There is no Purdah, not similar to the House of Commons anyway; fell free to check this though.
I am sure you are incorrect. While the members continue to represent their constituents, there are activities they may not follow within Council that are overtly political.
My earlier query was about whether candidates are allowed to 'campaign' in a way that does not reveal their status as a candidate.
So, just as - say - Cllr Jones may not say do certain things that seek to denigrate another party while speaking as 'Chairman' I wonder if a candidate may say things without revealing up front that they speak as such....?
Posted by: user23 Apr 24 2011, 10:16 AM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Apr 24 2011, 11:02 AM)
I am sure you are incorrect. While the members continue to represent their constituents, there are activities they may not follow within Council that are overtly political.
My earlier query was about whether candidates are allowed to 'campaign' in a way that does not reveal their status as a candidate.
So, just as - say - Cllr Jones may not say do certain things that seek to denigrate another party while speaking as 'Chairman' I wonder if a candidate may say things without revealing up front that they speak as such....?
Richard's statement "we are all now candidates seeking election" is untrue as there are 52 Members seeking re-election. As I understand it they remain Members until another candidate is elected to represent their Ward.My earlier query was about whether candidates are allowed to 'campaign' in a way that does not reveal their status as a candidate.
So, just as - say - Cllr Jones may not say do certain things that seek to denigrate another party while speaking as 'Chairman' I wonder if a candidate may say things without revealing up front that they speak as such....?
I could be wrong, so if you're interested do please check.
Posted by: NWNREADER Apr 24 2011, 10:26 AM
QUOTE (user23 @ Apr 24 2011, 11:16 AM)
Richard's statement "we are all now candidates seeking election" is untrue as there are 52 Members seeking re-election. As I understand it they remain Members until another candidate is elected to represent their Ward.
I could be wrong, so if you're interested do please check.
I could be wrong, so if you're interested do please check.
I think you are taking pedantry to a height even I may not aspire to.
The point of Purdah is that members are not allowed to use their 'inside' knowledge to disadvantage other candidates, whether the member seeks re-election or not.
May a 'new' candidate make statements in any form that are political but do not underscore their candidacy?
Posted by: Simon Kirby Apr 24 2011, 11:33 AM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Apr 24 2011, 11:26 AM)
I think you are taking pedantry to a height even I may not aspire to.
I would just point out that pedants sat at the feet of the teacher, so can I suggest it's taking it to a depth rather than a height.
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 24 2011, 03:41 PM
First User23 says I am wrong, now he says he could be wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purdah_(pre-election_period)
In reality, it appears that I was part right, and that the period is from the date the election was called until a new Government is formed (in our case, the council).
Posted by: Strafin Apr 24 2011, 05:29 PM
Seems to me that you are wrong. You said that the council cannot make decisions until after the election, this is not correct, the link you provide only says that councils are not allowed to publicise candidates or parties. Please try and remember you are talking about WBC not the governnment, no matter how important you think you are.
Posted by: Richard Garvie Apr 24 2011, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (Strafin @ Apr 24 2011, 05:29 PM)
Seems to me that you are wrong. You said that the council cannot make decisions until after the election, this is not correct, the link you provide only says that councils are not allowed to publicise candidates or parties. Please try and remember you are talking about WBC not the governnment, no matter how important you think you are.
Where did I say that? What I said about purdah was this:
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 23 2011, 06:00 PM)
24th March I was told, which is why I was surprised that an executive meeting was held after that date. Purdah is the period between an election being called and the polling day itself, when councillors revert to being candidates and members of a party rather than a member of the council if you get my drift.
Technically, at the last executive meeting, under purdah, Graham Jones should not have been speaking as leader of the council. As I'm new to all of this, I stand to be corrected but that is how it has been explained to me.
NWNREADER: To answer you directly, we are all now candidates seeking election, and should not be speaking on behalf of anyone but our parties and ourselves.
Just to clarify, the 5% cut was confirmed by an officer of the council under FOI. So when we were misled at the executive meeting during public questions, not only did they issue a false statement but they also refused a supplementary, which now the council have acknowledged the supplementary was appropriate and answered it under the complaints procedure, shows Graham Jones really does make things up as he goes.
Technically, at the last executive meeting, under purdah, Graham Jones should not have been speaking as leader of the council. As I'm new to all of this, I stand to be corrected but that is how it has been explained to me.
NWNREADER: To answer you directly, we are all now candidates seeking election, and should not be speaking on behalf of anyone but our parties and ourselves.
Just to clarify, the 5% cut was confirmed by an officer of the council under FOI. So when we were misled at the executive meeting during public questions, not only did they issue a false statement but they also refused a supplementary, which now the council have acknowledged the supplementary was appropriate and answered it under the complaints procedure, shows Graham Jones really does make things up as he goes.
Posted by: Strafin Apr 24 2011, 07:58 PM
Like I say, seems to me you are wrong, members are members and act as such, and have the same powers prior to the election beiong called, and the candidates nominated. How long has the election date been set? Because they've been making decisions up until now.
Posted by: NWNREADER Apr 24 2011, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 24 2011, 07:07 PM)
Where did I say that? What I said about purdah was this:
(inter alia) Purdah is the period between an election being called and the polling day itself, when councillors revert to being candidates and members of a party rather than a member of the council if you get my drift.
Councillors hold office until the day of the election, and are accountable for the business of the Council 100% until the new Councillor is named - which could be themselves.
Purdah is about not being able to use the benefit of being a sitting Member to advertise their candidacy or to enhance their standing in the eyes of the electorate. All I ever asked was whether it also applied to all candidates so they cannot do 'secret' campaigning - by raising issues without disclosing the fact they are candidates....
Posted by: blackdog Apr 24 2011, 09:16 PM
QUOTE (user23 @ Apr 24 2011, 11:16 AM)
Richard's statement "we are all now candidates seeking election" is untrue as there are 52 Members seeking re-election. As I understand it they remain Members until another candidate is elected to represent their Ward.
On a point of pedantry - not all members are seeking re-election. They remain members until the election, regardless of another candidate being selected.
Posted by: JeffG Apr 25 2011, 12:35 PM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Apr 23 2011, 07:44 PM)
It matters not what is said, only where the 'X' goes.
For how much longer?
Posted by: Andy Capp May 2 2011, 07:15 PM
Had a Labour bloke round: Gary Puffett. He looked surprised that I said yes when he asked if I would be voting for him. I will vote Labour simply because they have vowed to scrap a large arts centre on Vickie Park. Not the full 'no building on Vickie Park' that I would prefer, but that is the best of the bunch.
I notice the Tories are celebrating the Parkway project, which I despise.
Posted by: NWNREADER May 2 2011, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 2 2011, 08:15 PM)
Had a Labour bloke round: Gary Puffett. He looked surprised that I said yes when he asked if I would be voting for him.
I remember him when he was with Union Gap.
Posted by: Andy Capp May 2 2011, 08:09 PM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ May 2 2011, 09:06 PM)
I remember him when he was with Union Gap.
It's Puffett, not Puckett!Posted by: Simon Kirby May 2 2011, 08:27 PM
Campaigning's been rather muted it seems. Here's someone who's having trouble getting up on the stump.
Posted by: Andy Capp May 2 2011, 09:09 PM
From what I have heard, even getting a stump is a challenge!
Posted by: Richard Garvie May 3 2011, 07:06 AM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 2 2011, 07:15 PM)
Had a Labour bloke round: Gary Puffett. He looked surprised that I said yes when he asked if I would be voting for him. I will vote Labour simply because they have vowed to scrap a large arts centre on Vickie Park. Not the full 'no building on Vickie Park' that I would prefer, but that is the best of the bunch.
I notice the Tories are celebrating the Parkway project, which I despise.
I notice the Tories are celebrating the Parkway project, which I despise.
The support up your way has been very strong. Just so you know, the only "building" on Victoria Park that we do support is getting rid of the current cafe and replacing it with something more secure and converting the toilet block for changing rooms (should people want the football pitch in the park). There will be no increase in net floorspace.
Posted by: NWNREADER May 3 2011, 10:08 AM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ May 3 2011, 08:06 AM)
The support up your way has been very strong.
You know where he lives?
Posted by: Simon Kirby May 3 2011, 10:23 AM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 2 2011, 10:09 PM)
From what I have heard, even getting a stump is a challenge!
Perhaps you should make it clear that your comments relate to the erectile dysfunction of pandas, and are in no way a comment on any alleged deselection of candidates by their parties - this is a family site after all and you know how easy it can be to offend certain people.
Posted by: Simon Kirby May 3 2011, 10:25 AM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ May 3 2011, 08:06 AM)
There will be no increase in net floorspace.
So the Labour Party doesn't support tennis?
Posted by: Richard Garvie May 3 2011, 01:40 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ May 3 2011, 10:25 AM)
So the Labour Party doesn't support tennis?
No additional net floorspace = no decrease in the amount of green space
Posted by: Richard Garvie May 3 2011, 01:41 PM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ May 3 2011, 10:08 AM)
You know where he lives?
Gary Puffett is standing in Greenham = Andy Capp must live in Greenham = Greenham has been very strong for Labour = Labour support has been very strong "up his way".
Posted by: Andy Capp May 3 2011, 03:15 PM
Ask any candidate and I would imagine they would give the same reply. The reaction from Mr Puffett suggested he wasn't used to getting a positive reply!
Posted by: Richard Garvie May 3 2011, 03:38 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 3 2011, 03:15 PM)
Ask any candidate and I would imagine they would give the same reply. The reaction from Mr Puffett suggested he wasn't used to getting a positive reply!
I don't know about that, Gary has had one of the strongest campaigns out of the wards we are contesting. I'd say we have nearly as many display posters as the Lib Dems in Greenham.
Posted by: NWNREADER May 3 2011, 04:38 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ May 3 2011, 04:38 PM)
I don't know about that, Gary has had one of the strongest campaigns out of the wards we are contesting. I'd say we have nearly as many display posters as the Lib Dems in Greenham.
I have seen 2 LD ones. No Conservative ones, no Labour, nor any other.... Not around Newbury, anyway.
Posted by: user23 May 3 2011, 04:42 PM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ May 3 2011, 05:38 PM)
I have seen 2 LD ones. No Conservative ones, no Labour, nor any other.... Not around Newbury, anyway.
I've seen on Conservative, a few Lib Dem and none from anyone else.Posted by: Richard Garvie May 3 2011, 08:58 PM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ May 3 2011, 04:38 PM)
I have seen 2 LD ones. No Conservative ones, no Labour, nor any other.... Not around Newbury, anyway.
What ward are you? We have people out in most wards every night.
Posted by: NWNREADER May 3 2011, 09:04 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ May 3 2011, 09:58 PM)
What ward are you? We have people out in most wards every night.
None of your business. As I said, I was referring to Newbury generally. Lots out in Frimley.
Posted by: Richard Garvie May 3 2011, 09:10 PM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ May 3 2011, 09:04 PM)
None of your business. As I said, I was referring to Newbury generally. Lots out in Frimley.
Most doors in Newbury have been knocked (at least once).
Posted by: Ron May 3 2011, 09:12 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ May 3 2011, 10:10 PM)
Most doors in Newbury have been knocked (at least once).
Not in the Newtown Road area
Posted by: NWNREADER May 3 2011, 09:30 PM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ May 3 2011, 10:10 PM)
Most doors in Newbury have been knocked (at least once).
If that is the measure of a good campaign, good luck to you.
Posted by: Richard Garvie May 3 2011, 09:37 PM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ May 3 2011, 09:30 PM)
If that is the measure of a good campaign, good luck to you.
You just made a point that nobody had been to see you. I am confident that we have made an effort to speak to everyone in Newbury, and have even held a stall in Northbrook Street each week too. It's not about the amount of leaflets you push through doors, it's about how many people you speak to and we have made a genuine effort to speak to as many people as possible. Granted, not everyone will anser their doors, but we at least made the effort.
I've not had anyone knock my door, which I was quite dissapointed about. As I've only got one Labour here, the other vote could have gone either way!!!
Posted by: NWNREADER May 4 2011, 06:11 AM
QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ May 3 2011, 10:37 PM)
You just made a point that nobody had been to see you. I am confident that we have made an effort to speak to everyone in Newbury, and have even held a stall in Northbrook Street each week too. It's not about the amount of leaflets you push through doors, it's about how many people you speak to and we have made a genuine effort to speak to as many people as possible. Granted, not everyone will anser their doors, but we at least made the effort.
I did? You may think I did, but I didn't.
You commit the standard political error of making input the measure of efficiency and effectiveness. The only measure is outcome.
Posted by: Richard Garvie May 4 2011, 07:32 AM
QUOTE (NWNREADER @ May 4 2011, 06:11 AM)
I did? You may think I did, but I didn't.
You commit the standard political error of making input the measure of efficiency and effectiveness. The only measure is outcome.
You commit the standard political error of making input the measure of efficiency and effectiveness. The only measure is outcome.
All I'm saying is that the priority was to knock on as many doors as possible in the past few weeks to give everyone an opportunity to tell us what they think and ask what our policies are. The only thing that will determine how well our campaign went is how many votes we will get. Labour HQ have told us that they want more votes than 2007. I think we will significantly increase our vote on 2007, but by how much is probably the question.
Posted by: Strafin May 4 2011, 07:45 PM
I have had 2 leaflets from UKIP, nothing from anyone else. Happy days.
Posted by: Simon Kirby May 4 2011, 09:10 PM
I've had a leaflet from Domino Pizza - I'm voting Reggae Reggae vegetarian, though I concede the other candidates are all equally thick in the crust.
Posted by: NWNREADER May 4 2011, 09:23 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ May 4 2011, 10:10 PM)
I've had a leaflet from Domino Pizza - I'm voting Reggae Reggae vegetarian, though I concede the other candidates are all equally thick in the crust.
Mine was from a lawn care 'advisor'. I think he must be the Green Party
Posted by: Richard Garvie May 4 2011, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ May 4 2011, 09:10 PM)
I've had a leaflet from Domino Pizza - I'm voting Reggae Reggae vegetarian, though I concede the other candidates are all equally thick in the crust.
That sounds awful!!! I'll go for Texas BBQ!!!
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