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Newbury Today Forum _ Random Rants _ TV Police going even softer in West Berkshire
Posted by: gel Dec 16 2018, 09:02 AM
I wonder what Commissioner Stansfield have to say about this development, as we
know so much crime is fuelled by druggies?
No doubt will result in the District being seen as even more attractive for County Lines drug mules. 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6500245/Thames-Valley-Police-not-punish-caught-heroin-cocaine-controversial-scheme.html
Posted by: newres Dec 16 2018, 01:23 PM
Very sensible. As long as no crime has been committed they should be helped. No one chooses to be an addict.
Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 16 2018, 02:19 PM
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 16 2018, 01:23 PM) 
Very sensible. As long as no crime has been committed they should be helped. No one chooses to be an addict.
I will take issue with that statement; people become addicted for various reasons but very few are forced against their will. To blame society for the position they find themselves is insulting to the millions that do not go down that road. Maybe if we addressed the reasons for rather than debating over the position of the proverbial gate after, we may have a better chance.
What I do agree with is the principal of decriminalising those who are addicted providing they do not use illegal means to feed their habit but there is big money to be made and the dealers are not going to give up their trade and work in a local call centre without a fight.
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 16 2018, 04:13 PM
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 16 2018, 02:19 PM)
I will take issue with that statement; people become addicted for various reasons but very few are forced against their will. To blame society for the position they find themselves is insulting to the millions that do not go down that road. Maybe if we addressed the reasons for rather than debating over the position of the proverbial gate after, we may have a better chance.
What I do agree with is the principal of decriminalising those who are addicted providing they do not use illegal means to feed their habit but there is big money to be made and the dealers are not going to give up their trade and work in a local call centre without a fight.
What I do agree with is the principal of decriminalising those who are addicted providing they do not use illegal means to feed their habit but there is big money to be made and the dealers are not going to give up their trade and work in a local call centre without a fight.
Poor paedophiles. It's not there fault. It's an addiction.🤔
Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 16 2018, 04:34 PM
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 16 2018, 01:23 PM)
Very sensible. As long as no crime has been committed they should be helped. No one chooses to be an addict.
One of your more stupid posts.
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 16 2018, 04:44 PM
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 16 2018, 04:34 PM)
One of your more stupid posts.
And that is saying something!!!
Posted by: newres Dec 16 2018, 05:03 PM
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 16 2018, 04:44 PM)
And that is saying something!!!
Well it appears Thames Valley Police agree with me so I'm really not too bothered what a couple of ultra right wingers think.
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 16 2018, 05:14 PM
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 16 2018, 05:03 PM)
Well it appears Thames Valley Police agree with me so I'm really not too bothered what a couple of ultra right wingers think.
Ultra right wingers? If you lose a discussion this is the standard response from you. It's just in a word. SAD. Never mind.
Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 16 2018, 06:57 PM
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 16 2018, 05:14 PM)
Ultra right wingers? If you lose a discussion this is the standard response from you. It's just in a word. SAD. Never mind.
Haha! I'm about as ultra right wing as Gandhi! Saddo either hasn't read the article or (more likely, doesn't understand it) "No crime has been committed? Oh really, since when was carrying class A drugs legal? Walter really is a dope! (see what I did there?)
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 16 2018, 07:06 PM
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 16 2018, 06:57 PM)
Haha! I'm about as ultra right wing as Gandhi! Saddo either hasn't read the article or (more likely, doesn't understand it) "No crime has been committed? Oh really, since when was carrying class A drugs legal? Walter really is a dope! (see what I did there?)
Did you not know?
Gandhi is now racist scum.😂
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/14/racist-gandhi-statue-removed-from-university-of-ghana
Posted by: Andy Capp Dec 16 2018, 08:09 PM
It seems to me to be counter productive to confiscate it as won’t that increase the likelihood of them causing more crime to replenish their stock!
Posted by: newres Dec 16 2018, 08:17 PM
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 16 2018, 05:14 PM)
Ultra right wingers? If you lose a discussion this is the standard response from you. It's just in a word. SAD. Never mind.
Not my description.
http://forum.newbury.net/index.php/topic,353.0.html
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Dec 16 2018, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 16 2018, 08:17 PM)
Not my description.
http://forum.newbury.net/index.php/topic,353.0.html
http://forum.newbury.net/index.php/topic,353.0.html
Wibble. Have you got a pair of underpants on your head and 2 straws up your nose? Or are you on day release?
Posted by: newres Dec 16 2018, 09:13 PM
QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 16 2018, 08:28 PM)
Wibble. Have you got a pair of underpants on your head and 2 straws up your nose? Or are you on day release?
Don’t shoot the messenger.
Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 16 2018, 09:37 PM
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 16 2018, 09:13 PM)
Don’t shoot the messenger.
The word 'loon' springs to mind.
Posted by: Strafin Dec 17 2018, 03:46 PM
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 16 2018, 02:19 PM)
I will take issue with that statement; people become addicted for various reasons but very few are forced against their will. To blame society for the position they find themselves is insulting to the millions that do not go down that road. Maybe if we addressed the reasons for rather than debating over the position of the proverbial gate after, we may have a better chance.
What I do agree with is the principal of decriminalising those who are addicted providing they do not use illegal means to feed their habit but there is big money to be made and the dealers are not going to give up their trade and work in a local call centre without a fight.
What I do agree with is the principal of decriminalising those who are addicted providing they do not use illegal means to feed their habit but there is big money to be made and the dealers are not going to give up their trade and work in a local call centre without a fight.
Who blamed society? You appear to responding to Newres but they didn't mention it.
Posted by: Strafin Dec 17 2018, 03:47 PM
Given some of the language, some of the words and some of the attitudes I see on here, I think Ultra Right is a perfectly fitting term for some on here.
Posted by: SirWilliam Dec 17 2018, 06:26 PM
QUOTE (Strafin @ Dec 17 2018, 03:46 PM)
Who blamed society? You appear to responding to Newres but they didn't mention it.
"They"? Is Newres a multi-national? The inference was that if society sees fit to punish then it is fair to assume that they will feel aggrieved if those who contravene the law are not made pay for their sins, and therefore are ultimately responsible for offenders still being at large. In an ideal world drug addicts would stay in their council funded dwellings and their particular poison would be delivered free gratis by Royal Mail but the world is far from that.
Posted by: je suis Charlie Dec 17 2018, 06:53 PM
QUOTE (Strafin @ Dec 17 2018, 03:47 PM)
Given some of the language, some of the words and some of the attitudes I see on here, I think Ultra Right is a perfectly fitting term for some on here.
If you don't repeat the mantra " lets all hug a terrorist " you are marked down as "ultra right wing". I rather suspect if you did the maths the 'ultra left' has killed more than anyone else.
Posted by: Andy1 Dec 18 2018, 06:49 AM
An addiction is a disease not a social construct.
Posted by: Andy Capp Dec 18 2018, 07:25 AM
QUOTE (Andy1 @ Dec 18 2018, 06:49 AM)
An addiction is a disease not a social construct.
I think it maybe both.
Posted by: x2lls Dec 18 2018, 06:46 PM
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 16 2018, 05:03 PM)
Well it appears Thames Valley Police agree with me so I'm really not too bothered what a couple of ultra right wingers think.
No, YOU agree with Thames Valley Police.Since when did you have a direct line? I don't agree with either of you.
Posted by: Andy1 Dec 18 2018, 06:47 PM
QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 18 2018, 07:25 AM)
I think it maybe both.
The stereotypical definition is, yes
Posted by: newres Dec 18 2018, 06:56 PM
QUOTE (x2lls @ Dec 18 2018, 06:46 PM)
No, YOU agree with Thames Valley Police.Since when did you have a direct line? I don't agree with either of you.
No, they agree with me. I’ve thought it for years.
Posted by: x2lls Dec 19 2018, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (newres @ Dec 18 2018, 06:56 PM)
No, they agree with me. I’ve thought it for years.
Well, as far as patents go, they published first.
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