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Apr 25 2013, 08:31 PM
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The Town Council is designing itself a flag - see http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2013/flying-...wburys-heritage. "The design encompasses the town council’s coat of arms, on a field of red and blue, with a wavy line representing the River Kennet running across the middle. It features the golden emblems of Newbury Castle, a teasel, a corn sheaf and two crossed swords." The central image is Newbury Castle. Castles were the decisive weapon of the 12th century robber-barons and the image represents establishment oppression and the subjugation of the common people by the self-serving corruption of authority. The image of the teasel harks back 500 years to a time when Newbury saw some prosperity in the wool trade, culminating in the town's defining historic event when a local man made a coat, and it reminds us that nothing of any note has happened since. The corn sheaf presumably is a reference to growing stuff, in much the same way as other places grew stuff. The crossed swords remember Newbury as the scene of two indecisive battles in the civil war, neither of which particular involved the people of Newbury, but it does remind us of the importance of resorting to violent and bloody insurrection to solve political differences. Those symbols in yellow atop a red and blue field riven by great wavy crack, symbolising the essential vanity of the parish council and the party-politics that underlies their ineptitude. So that's nice for the parish council who glory in their establishment authority and marshal past, but how about a flag for the town, forward-looking and celebrating what's excellent and distinctive about the town of Newbury now, in the 21st century.
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Apr 25 2013, 09:09 PM
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Good idea Simon, I would suggest something along the following lines...
A quartered shield, supported on either side by Bollards (rampant) each of the quarters contain representations of pot holes, an ar5e, an elbow and some cracks.
Above should be a picture of a report regarding Victoria Park (locked)
Below should be the new motto, "vindictive, incompetent, indolent".
Also, in the helm should be a picture of a large empty room (to accomodate Swift-Hooks ego) supported by a black dog. (supine)
The field colours should represent the attitude displayed by the town council to West Berks Council, maybe white (surrender) matched with yellow (cowardice).
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Apr 25 2013, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 25 2013, 09:31 PM) The Town Council is designing itself a flag - see http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2013/flying-...wburys-heritage. "The design encompasses the town council’s coat of arms, on a field of red and blue, with a wavy line representing the River Kennet running across the middle. It features the golden emblems of Newbury Castle, a teasel, a corn sheaf and two crossed swords." The central image is Newbury Castle. Castles were the decisive weapon of the 12th century robber-barons and the image represents establishment oppression and the subjugation of the common people by the self-serving corruption of authority. The image of the teasel harks back 500 years to a time when Newbury saw some prosperity in the wool trade, culminating in the town's defining historic event when a local man made a coat, and it reminds us that nothing of any note has happened since. The corn sheaf presumably is a reference to growing stuff, in much the same way as other places grew stuff. The crossed swords remember Newbury as the scene of two indecisive battles in the civil war, neither of which particular involved the people of Newbury, but it does remind us of the importance of resorting to violent and bloody insurrection to solve political differences. Those symbols in yellow atop a red and blue field riven by great wavy crack, symbolising the essential vanity of the parish council and the party-politics that underlies their ineptitude. So that's nice for the parish council who glory in their establishment authority and marshal past, but how about a flag for the town, forward-looking and celebrating what's excellent and distinctive about the town of Newbury now, in the 21st century. Did that help any?
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Apr 25 2013, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Apr 25 2013, 10:09 PM) Good idea Simon, I would suggest something along the following lines...
A quartered shield, supported on either side by Bollards (rampant) each of the quarters contain representations of pot holes, an ar5e, an elbow and some cracks.
Above should be a picture of a report regarding Victoria Park (locked)
Below should be the new motto, "vindictive, incompetent, indolent".
Also, in the helm should be a picture of a large empty room (to accomodate Swift-Hooks ego) supported by a black dog. (supine)
The field colours should represent the attitude displayed by the town council to West Berks Council, maybe white (surrender) matched with yellow (cowardice).
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Apr 25 2013, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 25 2013, 09:41 PM) Notwithstanding that Newbury is believed to be a Norman invention! And in the Anarchy the Normans were the establishment.
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Apr 26 2013, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 25 2013, 10:31 PM) And in the Anarchy the Normans were the establishment. The original tyranny.
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Apr 26 2013, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 25 2013, 10:31 PM) And in the Anarchy the Normans were the establishment. Why should someone's name determine their place in the heirarchy? I know a Mrs Norman who is not at all a tyrant, and as for poor old Norman Wisdom.......
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Apr 26 2013, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 25 2013, 10:55 PM) ....and we wonder why people are so disillusioned with politics. So, there is so little business to occupy our Town Councillors they can spend time and money designing a flag - wow. The only good thing is that this proves Newbury does not need a Town Council. Err hasn't most of Newbury been given away? Why would we now need a flag?
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Apr 26 2013, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 26 2013, 09:36 AM) The original tyranny. Very much so. It's refreshingly honest of the town council to recruit the image of that tyranny, and not a little ironic that any evidence of the castle is not available to the public.
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Apr 26 2013, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 26 2013, 02:20 PM) William of Normandy called muster & inspected 7500 Normans in one of the most confusing roll calls in military history. Shades of Spartacus!
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Apr 27 2013, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 26 2013, 08:46 PM) All of Newbury that belonged to Newbury was given away in 1974 - to Newbury District Council. Can't see what having a flag or not has to do with it? Just thought that if Newbury no longer belongs to the taxpayer (think Parkway, Market Street etc.) why pay for a town flag. I would have thought the Standard Life Logo and other owners Logo's would be more appropriate and of course they would pay for the flag?
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Apr 27 2013, 06:07 PM
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To be honest I quite like the idea of a Newbury flag. My complaint is that what the town council have created isn't a flag to represent and celebrate Newbury, but it's a flag that celebrates the town council, a council that is secretive, arrogant, useless, and vindictive, and the flag's symbolism represents that well, but as a flag for the town it's complete rubbish.
I understand the comments about the cost, but for me this is exactly the kind of thing the town council should be getting involved in, though as always they failed to engage the community in the project and just did it themselves. Badly. A town flag isn't an essential public service, but it can be a useful symbol to rally civic pride, just like a town mayor, or cheese-rolling competition, or hobby horse, or bonfire parade, or most other pageant you care to mention.
It's a shame that the Newbury Society don't create a Newbury Flag, celebrating Newbury's cultural identity and local distinctiveness. They have as much standing as the town council, if not more, so any flag they produced would have just as much credibility.
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