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Simon Kirby
post May 27 2012, 06:11 PM
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That Engelbert can still sing, shame his song was rubbish. But why didn't we wheel out Stiff Pilchard, he'd have done better than 25th surely? That Swedish nonsense is enough to make you want to leave Europe.


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post May 27 2012, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ May 27 2012, 07:11 PM) *
That Swedish nonsense is enough to make you want to leave Europe.

Perhaps they should stick to making fantastic TV series (together with the Danes). smile.gif
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post May 27 2012, 06:50 PM
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I doubt the quality of the song or the delivery has much to do with popularity.
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post May 27 2012, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ May 27 2012, 07:11 PM) *
That Engelbert can still sing, shame his song was rubbish. But why didn't we wheel out Stiff Pilchard, he'd have done better than 25th surely? That Swedish nonsense is enough to make you want to leave Europe.


I didn't think Engelbert's song was rubbish, but even if you thought it was brilliant we will never win again; The Eurovision is too political. Neighbours vote for neighbours; based on loyalty and not the credibility of the song.
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post May 27 2012, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ May 27 2012, 07:53 PM) *
The Eurovision is too political. Neighbours vote for neighbours; based on loyalty and not the credibility of the song.

They know it, everyone who takes part knows it, the question that needs to be asked before next year's Europap competition is why the BBC dedicate over 3 hours of Saturday prime time viewing to this cr*p. License fee payers deserve better.
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post May 27 2012, 08:20 PM
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With you there! If it had to be broadcast, Radio 3 perhaps


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post May 27 2012, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ May 27 2012, 09:06 PM) *
They know it, everyone who takes part knows it, the question that needs to be asked before next year's Europap competition is why the BBC dedicate over 3 hours of Saturday prime time viewing to this cr*p. License fee payers deserve better.


I agree. However, it never used to be crap but a fair competition.
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post May 27 2012, 09:26 PM
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It makes me laugh all this "political voting nonsense". Countries that are close share similar traditions, values and cultures and are therefore likely to enjoy each others entries. The competition is Eurovision, it should (and does) encompass all of Europe's indulgences and we send them something typically English and dreary. I thought the Grannies were a prime example of this. Even *grits teeth* Jedward seem to have grasped the concept, and did well.
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post May 27 2012, 10:10 PM
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Our entry was hopeless, but we've been out of the running for a while now; especially with our foreign policy as it is. I've nothing against the contest, but I don't watch it any more. I find it boring. It is an anachronism.
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post May 28 2012, 05:32 AM
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I love Eurovision.

Get a few friends in, food, liquid refreshments and have a party. Laugh at all the acts, then draw up your score predictions for each country.

Yes, the voting is on political/ethnic and geographical grounds instead of the song with Sweden being the safe alternative but that's half the fun. Far better entertainment than the usual dross that gets trotted out on a Saturday night. Roll on May next year.
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post May 28 2012, 07:00 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ May 27 2012, 10:26 PM) *
It makes me laugh all this "political voting nonsense". Countries that are close share similar traditions, values and cultures and are therefore likely to enjoy each others entries. The competition is Eurovision, it should (and does) encompass all of Europe's indulgences and we send them something typically English and dreary. I thought the Grannies were a prime example of this. Even *grits teeth* Jedward seem to have grasped the concept, and did well.


If the voting is on traditions and culture, why do so many countries sing in english and not their native tongue?
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post May 28 2012, 11:13 AM
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only good thing about the contest is Graham Norton.
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post May 28 2012, 03:56 PM
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I did not rate our song. But would a better one improve our position? The Eurovision seems too political to me.
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post May 28 2012, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ May 27 2012, 09:20 PM) *
With you there! If it had to be broadcast, Radio 3 perhaps

Radio 3!?!?!

Eurovision is the antithesis of everything Radio 3 stands for. BBC 3 perhaps.
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post May 28 2012, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE (Darren @ May 28 2012, 06:32 AM) *
I love Eurovision.

You're kidding right?
At least we didn't suffer from being beaten by a country that's not even in Europe, as Israel didn't take part this year....


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Radio 3!?!?!

What about BBC Radio 6 Music? wink.gif
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post May 28 2012, 06:39 PM
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Maybe the Radio 3 quip was concerned with a recent controversy over standards and the type of music they are featuring now. (Or so I've read somewhere - not a listener myself.)
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