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JeffG
post Dec 17 2009, 08:21 PM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=11940

Never learn, do they?
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Hugh Saskin
post Dec 17 2009, 09:09 PM
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But meanwhile, and equally as socially unacceptable (and potentially dangerous), we see plonkers every few minutes driving around yacking away into a mobile phone and yet nothing much seems to be done to catch them. Heaven knows, drinking and driving isn't a good idea but why do so many drivers still persist in using mobiles when on the move? Surely being caught using one of them should rate the same tariff as being caught over the limit?
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post Dec 17 2009, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (Hugh Saskin @ Dec 17 2009, 09:09 PM) *
But meanwhile, and equally as socially unacceptable (and potentially dangerous), we see plonkers every few minutes driving around yacking away into a mobile phone and yet nothing much seems to be done to catch them. Heaven knows, drinking and driving isn't a good idea but why do so many drivers still persist in using mobiles when on the move? Surely being caught using one of them should rate the same tariff as being caught over the limit?


Quiet a lot s done to catch people on mobile's, people just arent bothered. They also don't yack on the phone in front of a marked police vehicle!! If more people werent being caught then you wouldnt have the recent figures that says the offence is on the rise. The figures are taken from those prosecuted.
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post Dec 17 2009, 11:02 PM
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I think people DD and use mobies based on their perception on the likelihood of being caught (I suspect like quite a lot of crime actually).
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post Dec 18 2009, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (Hugh Saskin @ Dec 17 2009, 09:09 PM) *
But meanwhile, and equally as socially unacceptable (and potentially dangerous), we see plonkers every few minutes driving around yacking away into a mobile phone and yet nothing much seems to be done to catch them. Heaven knows, drinking and driving isn't a good idea but why do so many drivers still persist in using mobiles when on the move? Surely being caught using one of them should rate the same tariff as being caught over the limit?

Driving while using a mobile is nothing like as socially unacceptable as drink driving - which is why so many continue to do it.

An item on QI suggested that statistics demonstrate that sat navs are as distracting and dangerous as mobiles - now that would be an interesting law, banning the use of sat navs while driving!
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post Dec 19 2009, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Dec 18 2009, 09:54 PM) *
Driving while using a mobile is nothing like as socially unacceptable as drink driving


Well it bloody well should be!! angry.gif

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post Dec 19 2009, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 19 2009, 11:03 AM) *
Well it bloody well should be!! angry.gif

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Quite so - back in the 1970s it was quite acceptable to drive when well over the limit and the police (especially the Met) had other priorities. Anyone caught could expect sympathy from his friends and family. Luckily, all that has changed gradually over the years but it does make me cross to see all types of road users, from Post Office van drivers to the gentry in top of the range 4 x4s, using mobiles as if it were the most natural thing in the world. Until the penalty for doing so is an automatic ban, say for six months minimum, I don't think attitudes will change much.
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post Dec 19 2009, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Dec 19 2009, 11:03 AM) *
Well it bloody well should be!! angry.gif

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Can we add 'legal' drugs to the list as well please?
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post Dec 19 2009, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Dec 19 2009, 07:18 PM) *
Can we add 'legal' drugs to the list as well please?

Aspirin?
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post Dec 19 2009, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Dec 19 2009, 07:24 PM) *
Aspirin?


laugh.gif Well was thinking of cannabis, but can't recall if it is legal or not this week.
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post Dec 19 2009, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Dec 19 2009, 08:14 PM) *
laugh.gif Well was thinking of cannabis, but can't recall if it is legal or not this week.


It's illegal and always has been rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 20 2009, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Dec 19 2009, 08:14 PM) *
laugh.gif Well was thinking of cannabis, but can't recall if it is legal or not this week.

There are plenty of legal drugs that affect one's ability to drive - Night Nurse for instance. Anything that makes you drowsy could be more dangerous than an alcohol level marginally over the limit.
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post Dec 20 2009, 01:43 PM
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Certain anti dperessants will have the DVLA taking your license away anyway.

Becareful of water too can have the same effect as alcohol.
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post Dec 20 2009, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (ossy1 @ Dec 20 2009, 01:43 PM) *
Becareful of water too can have the same effect as alcohol.

Like it will make you go to the toilet??
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post Dec 20 2009, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Dec 20 2009, 02:19 PM) *
Like it will make you go to the toilet??



No it makes you appear very drunk and is very dangerous. Especially when behind te wheel of a car
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post Dec 20 2009, 02:59 PM
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Watch out for poppy seeded bread to, that's the same as Heroin!!
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post Dec 20 2009, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Dec 20 2009, 02:59 PM) *
Watch out for poppy seeded bread to, that's the same as Heroin!!



You appear to think I'm joking
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post Dec 20 2009, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (ossy1 @ Dec 20 2009, 03:12 PM) *
You appear to think I'm joking

I hope you are, unless you've got some evidence to back up the suggestion that you shouldn't drink water and then drive, as it can have the same effect as alcohol.
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post Dec 20 2009, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Dec 20 2009, 04:33 PM) *
I hope you are, unless you've got some evidence to back up the suggestion that you shouldn't drink water and then drive, as it can have the same effect as alcohol.



Yes it was tongue in cheek but water intoxication is a serious condition and someone driving whilst suffering would give the appearance that they were drunk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
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post Dec 20 2009, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (ossy1 @ Dec 20 2009, 01:43 PM) *
Certain anti dperessants will have the DVLA taking your license away anyway.

Becareful of water too can have the same effect as alcohol.

I'm sorry, but this is your quote. Haven't you claimed to be a police officer on these boards? You have just advised people to be careful when drinking water before driving as it can have the same effect as alcohol. You are also saying that the DVLA will take your license away if you are on anti depressants, which is not true and it is irresponsible of you to imply that it is. You can be convicted of driving under the influence of drugs, but you have to be stopped and charged first, so would have to show signs of being intoxicated.
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