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post Jun 16 2019, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 16 2019, 08:00 PM) *
Leader’s debate thoughts?

Raab slaughtered and made to look stupid. Javid is getting a bit boring playing the race card. Gove unnerved me the way he kept sniffing and eating his cheeks. Hunt a bit of a nobody. Rory Stewart is the man. Honest and decent.

Tory C4 debate summary -

Gove - that cocaine was a mistake
Hunt - eyebrows, something about young people
Javid - let me tell more about my back story
Raab - I'll shut down parliament
Stewart - no more machismo, let me finish the question.

Boris won, because nobody stood out...


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post Jun 16 2019, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 16 2019, 08:00 PM) *
Rory Stewart is the man. Honest and decent.


Absolutely 100% agree with you. He is the only one of the remaining candidates who is actually being realistic.
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post Jun 17 2019, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 16 2019, 11:39 PM) *
Tory C4 debate summary -

Gove - that cocaine was a mistake
Hunt - eyebrows, something about young people
Javid - let me tell more about my back story
Raab - I'll shut down parliament
Stewart - no more machismo, let me finish the question.

Boris won, because nobody stood out...

Note that the left leaning press are behaving in their usual vociferous manner criticising BJ for not appearing yet they they do not seem to grasp that this is a matter for the conservative party not the electorate at large. Johnson is the only one that seems to grasp this and therefore is way out in front of the field. He also appears to be the only candidate that doesn't give a flying pig about his past, after all we are electing a politician not a pope.





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post Jun 17 2019, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 17 2019, 10:15 AM) *
Note that the left leaning press are behaving in their usual vociferous manner criticising BJ for not appearing yet they they do not seem to grasp that this is a matter for the conservative party not the electorate at large. Johnson is the only one that seems to grasp this and therefore is way out in front of the field. He also appears to be the only candidate that doesn't give a flying pig about his past, after all we are electing a politician not a pope.

Absolutely! Why should anyone expect integrity any more?
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post Jun 17 2019, 03:35 PM
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Can't believe I'm doing this but;

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2...on-rory-stewart

Quoting the guardian 😨
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post Jun 18 2019, 02:47 PM
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I'm guessing the people on here would agree with this? Giving Sinn Fein a united Ireland, the disintegration of the EU and significant economic damage is a price worth paying for Brexit?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articl...-party-destroye
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post Jun 18 2019, 03:46 PM
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I would imagine the breakup of the EU is meat and drink to brexiteers 😂.


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post Jun 18 2019, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 18 2019, 03:47 PM) *
I'm guessing the people on here would agree with this? Giving Sinn Fein a united Ireland, the disintegration of the EU and significant economic damage is a price worth paying for Brexit?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articl...-party-destroye

Oh no! House prices are crashing? The sky is falling? The sky is falling! Except;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/house-...ightmove-finds/


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post Jun 18 2019, 04:41 PM
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I'm getting ready to giggle if Boris doesn't get through.
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post Jun 19 2019, 05:11 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 18 2019, 04:49 PM) *
Oh no! House prices are crashing? The sky is falling? The sky is falling! Except;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/house-...ightmove-finds/

Did you manage to read to the end?
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post Jun 19 2019, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 18 2019, 05:41 PM) *
I'm getting ready to giggle if Boris doesn't get through.

If body language is relevant to anything Boris did not look comfortable in last nights BBC sop to public demand. Gove on the other hand sat centre stage and everything seemed to go through him. The question is however, "Could you vote for a man who goes jogging in his underpants"? laugh.gif I think Boris will make the last 2 but is he the party's choice?




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post Jun 19 2019, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 19 2019, 09:23 AM) *
If body language is relevant to anything Boris did not look comfortable in last nights BBC sop to public demand. Gove on the other hand sat centre stage and everything seemed to go through him. The question is however, "Could you vote for a man who goes jogging in his underpants"? laugh.gif I think Boris will make the last 2 but is he the party's choice?

What we are looking at here is a very smart piece of legerdemain, Let Boris run and run, let the press and public have a field day slagging him off and recoiling in horror at the thought of him actually winning. Then at the last moment everyone gets behind Hunt or Gove and the country breathes a huge sigh of relief. Classic! cool.gif
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post Jun 19 2019, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 19 2019, 04:04 PM) *
What we are looking at here is a very smart piece of legerdemain, Let Boris run and run, let the press and public have a field day slagging him off and recoiling in horror at the thought of him actually winning. Then at the last moment everyone gets behind Hunt or Gove and the country breathes a huge sigh of relief. Classic! cool.gif

None of them looked comfortable last night. Rory Stewart seemed agitated, Gove looked like his head disproportionate to his body and the rest either lied or showed complete ignorance of where we are.
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post Jun 19 2019, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 19 2019, 04:45 PM) *
None of them looked comfortable last night. Rory Stewart seemed agitated, Gove looked like his head disproportionate to his body and the rest either lied or showed complete ignorance of where we are.

Stewarts not up to the task, Gove has been compromised by his nose candy exploits. Gotta be Hunt. Raab might have done but he's too slippery, untrustworthy. My vote is going to Hunt.
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post Jun 19 2019, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 19 2019, 04:50 PM) *
Stewarts not up to the task, Gove has been compromised by his nose candy exploits. Gotta be Hunt. Raab might have done but he's too slippery, untrustworthy. My vote is going to Hunt.

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post Jun 20 2019, 06:54 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 19 2019, 04:50 PM) *
Stewarts not up to the task, Gove has been compromised by his nose candy exploits. Gotta be Hunt. Raab might have done but he's too slippery, untrustworthy. My vote is going to Hunt.

Are you actually a member with a vote? I don't know any others! So my Strafin opinion poll research currently shows 100% support for Hunt! Or is it just a turn of phrase?
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post Jun 20 2019, 09:26 AM
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I'm of the opinion that if you want to remain, BJ is the best option.
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post Jun 20 2019, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jun 20 2019, 07:54 AM) *
Are you actually a member with a vote? I don't know any others! So my Strafin opinion poll research currently shows 100% support for Hunt! Or is it just a turn of phrase?

Yup, all paid up as well.
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post Jun 20 2019, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 20 2019, 10:26 AM) *
I'm of the opinion that if you want to remain, BJ is the best option.


I would be quite interested to hear the reasoning behind this statement if you wouldn't mind providing it.
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post Jun 21 2019, 04:40 AM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Jun 20 2019, 01:27 PM) *
I would be quite interested to hear the reasoning behind this statement if you wouldn't mind providing it.

Two possibilities.

He will go for a no deal, bring down the government and Labour/ Lib Dem alliance form the new government with second vote. Or,

He just might “come clean”. Admit there’s no better deal on offer, say no deal will be a disaster and revoke.

Option 1 more likely. One side of the Tory party will turn on him whichever way he goes.
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