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post Oct 7 2013, 11:09 AM
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"Among those to resign include Fisheries Minister Richard Benyon. He tweeted: "On back benches! Three and half really fun years with much achieved. Really appreciate time working with outstanding ministers and officials."

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Now what can we slag him off for?
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post Oct 7 2013, 12:03 PM
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Shame, he was one of the better ones and, for once, someone who knew his brief.


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post Oct 7 2013, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Oct 7 2013, 12:09 PM) *
"Among those to resign include Fisheries Minister Richard Benyon. He tweeted: "On back benches! Three and half really fun years with much achieved. Really appreciate time working with outstanding ministers and officials."

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Now what can we slag him off for?


According to the BBC the title of this thread should be "Benyon Sacked" ! laugh.gif


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post Oct 7 2013, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Oct 7 2013, 12:09 PM) *
"Among those to resign include Fisheries Minister Richard Benyon. He tweeted: "On back benches! Three and half really fun years with much achieved. Really appreciate time working with outstanding ministers and officials."

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Now what can we slag him off for?

The same things we've always done. tongue.gif
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post Oct 7 2013, 01:29 PM
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The rules, keeping secret how many hundreds of thousands of pounds of taxpayer's money in benefits, his family and trust gets from the CAP each year, have been introduced.

His work in the ministry of agriculture is done.
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post Oct 7 2013, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 7 2013, 01:03 PM) *
Shame, he was one of the better ones and, for once, someone who knew his brief.

One of the better ones? One of the better front benchers, or fisheries ministers? Either way I am inclined to disagree.
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post Oct 7 2013, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Oct 7 2013, 02:41 PM) *
One of the better ones? One of the better front benchers, or fisheries ministers? Either way I am inclined to disagree.

Well with all his faults; much better than the nonentity we had before.


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post Oct 7 2013, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 7 2013, 04:12 PM) *
Well with all his faults; much better than the nonentity we had before.

Can you remind us who that was?
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post Oct 7 2013, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 7 2013, 04:12 PM) *
Well with all his faults; much better than the nonentity we had before.

I think it is difficult to judge either way. What is sure is he was loyal to his party and 'towed the line' accordingly. Whether he did what is right for the country is debatable. He has 'badgergate', 'carbofurangate', 'Buzzardgate', and 'wastefoodgate' hanging over him.
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post Oct 7 2013, 04:10 PM
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Oh right, so he gets the chop for defending Tory policies! Cameron has learned from his coalition partners; the townies are always right - so he had to go. Loyalty, stuff that.


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post Oct 7 2013, 04:44 PM
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Not forgetting selling the mineral rights to the AONB in Kingsclere that turned out to be his!
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post Oct 7 2013, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 7 2013, 05:10 PM) *
Oh right, so he gets the chop for defending Tory policies! Cameron has learned from his coalition partners; the townies are always right - so he had to go. Loyalty, stuff that.

I'm not sure it is known why he 'jumped before he was pushed', so who can say. He was a 'good Tory', but whether he was politicly astute is another matter.
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post Oct 7 2013, 07:02 PM
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If by politically astute you mean he follows today's definition - simply saying what Central office put out, no matter what, then no he's not. Sadly, in spite of protests to the contrary, we don't actually like politicians who are willing to give voice to their own convictions. Vanilla is such a sensible choice.


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post Oct 7 2013, 07:06 PM
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That famous old Tory, Winston Churchill supported the notion that history repeats itself. Anyone remember another Tory leader, of fairly recent times of whom it was said (adapting a biblical quote) 'greater love hath no man than he lay down his friends for his life'. Is this David Cameron's MacMillan Moment?


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post Oct 7 2013, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Oct 7 2013, 04:28 PM) *
Can you remind us who that was?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huw_Irranca-Davies
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post Oct 7 2013, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 7 2013, 08:02 PM) *
If by politically astute you mean he follows today's definition - simply saying what Central office put out, no matter what, then no he's not. Sadly, in spite of protests to the contrary, we don't actually like politicians who are willing to give voice to their own convictions. Vanilla is such a sensible choice.

I completely understand, but I feel that Mr Benyon is more an 'obedient' Tory than anything else. What disappointed me with him is that he usually failed to explain why he or his department made some of the choices that they did. I was also uncomfortable that he presided over policies that conflicted with his background, if not his interest. I realise that is true of many MPs, but his estate and the activities within it benefited from a number of initiatives he presided over.

I do admit that we 'force' MPs to be guarded with their views, because if they were completely candid, they would never get voted for.
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post Oct 7 2013, 08:37 PM
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Wouldn't disagree with any of that.


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post Oct 8 2013, 09:30 AM
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Fascinating postscript, supplied by BBC news link. Apparently LibDem online journal says they want to put 'clear yellow water' between them and the Tories! I knew it, LibDem policies are all pure piss!


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post Oct 8 2013, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 7 2013, 08:37 PM) *
. I was also uncomfortable that he presided over policies that conflicted with his background, if not his interest. I realise that is true of many MPs, but his estate and the activities within it benefited from a number of initiatives he presided over.


It's an odd dilemma, do you want a minister who actually knows something about the operations of his department - in which case this sort of conflict of interest will usually crop up, or someone who is clueless about the department, and hence will do pretty much whatever his boss, or his civil servants tell him to do. I can see the attraction of the latter to the party leadership.

It should be pointed out that the family estate also lost out financially as a result of some of the initiatives he was responsible for.


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post Oct 8 2013, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 8 2013, 12:02 PM) *
It should be pointed out that the family estate also lost out financially as a result of some of the initiatives he was responsible for.

What were they?

One problem I have had with Mr Benyon is his apparent lack of transparency. With some of the things previously mentioned, he never really gave convincing reason(s) for his actions.
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