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gel
post Aug 1 2011, 06:39 PM
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Odd the post I started re young Mum abandoning her parental responsibilities/ appearing in local court, has been canned.
Not getting jailed seems to be the norm in Newbury for such events;
http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/Article...articleID=12631

Here's another similar example in Cumbria; whether it's worse or less than the removed thread, you decide dry.gif ; at least in a car they were spotted/ potentially saved.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/carlisle...ferrerPath=news

The Daily Star were far from impressed either with Newbury party;
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/2039...y-4-home-alone/
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Andy Capp
post Aug 1 2011, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Aug 1 2011, 07:39 PM) *
Odd the post I started re young Mum abandoning her parental responsibilities/ appearing in local court, has been canned.

There was some quite malicious language used.
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post Aug 1 2011, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 1 2011, 08:13 PM) *
There was some quite malicious language used.
And legally, some fairly dubious and unsubstantiated claims.

I'm not surprised it was removed.
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post Aug 1 2011, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Aug 1 2011, 07:39 PM) *
Odd the post I started re young Mum abandoning her parental responsibilities/ appearing in local court, has been canned.

Good.

Heres what you can do though,.....instead of standing around bleating and belly-aching whinging and whining, why not actually do something about it?

Over to you.....(put up or shut up)

Become a Magistrate

Click on the link above.
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post Aug 1 2011, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE (gel @ Aug 1 2011, 07:39 PM) *
Odd the post I started re young Mum abandoning her parental responsibilities/ appearing in local court, has been canned.
Not getting jailed seems to be the norm in Newbury for such events;
http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/Article...articleID=12631

Here's another similar example in Cumbria; whether it's worse or less than the removed thread, you decide dry.gif ; at least in a car they were spotted/ potentially saved.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/carlisle...ferrerPath=news

The Daily Star were far from impressed either with Newbury party;
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/2039...y-4-home-alone/



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post Aug 1 2011, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (Sidney @ Aug 1 2011, 10:44 PM) *
Apparently your use of the word Scum, and me agreeing with you is far too offensive. angry.gif

The NWN own the forum and moderate it. They are therefore jointly responsible for any civil suit.

The descriptor used clearly specified who it was targeting, so I can understand the decision. Not sure the whole thread had to be deleted, but it is their ball, so they get to pick the team.........
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post Aug 1 2011, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE (Sidney @ Aug 1 2011, 10:44 PM) *
Apparently your use of the word ****, and me agreeing with you is far too offensive. angry.gif

And while you continue to use it, you both condemn this thread to the same fate, and you do no good to your image either. It is their forum and they make the rules. It could be argued that your language was inflammatory and likely or intended to incite violence or hatred. May I suggest you moderate your tone?
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post Aug 1 2011, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Aug 1 2011, 10:52 PM) *
The NWN own the forum and moderate it. They are therefore jointly responsible for any civil suit.

The descriptor used clearly specified who it was targeting, so I can understand the decision. Not sure the whole thread had to be deleted, but it is their ball, so they get to pick the team.........


Freedom of speech ?? Stick and Stones ?? All sorts of cliche's spring to mind !
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post Aug 1 2011, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE (Sidney @ Aug 1 2011, 11:00 PM) *
Freedom of speech ?? Stick and Stones ?? All sorts of cliche's spring to mind !

You are not free to incite hate and you are certainly not free to write what you want. Your language is evidently offensive and not necessary.
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post Aug 1 2011, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (Sidney @ Aug 1 2011, 11:00 PM) *
Freedom of speech ?? Stick and Stones ?? All sorts of cliche's spring to mind !

Freedom of speech is not an absolute right - it is constrained by law. Move on
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post Aug 2 2011, 01:37 AM
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Freedom of speech pretty much doesn;t exist on media forums such as the internet. You're bound to offend SOMEONE even if the majority agrees with what you are saying no matter WHAT you say.
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post Aug 2 2011, 06:01 AM
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QUOTE (Decarix @ Aug 2 2011, 02:37 AM) *
Freedom of speech pretty much doesn;t exist on media forums such as the internet. You're bound to offend SOMEONE even if the majority agrees with what you are saying no matter WHAT you say.


Rubbish, and that is not the issue. Someone can feel offended, but the Courts and Law set the standard for what is unlawful.

(I hope that did not offend)
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post Aug 2 2011, 07:16 AM
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If a couple of 'knee-jerks' come on here and start calling anyone who disagrees with them "scum" and they cite the Mail and the Star as their sources, then I for one am happy to line up against them.

You can tell a lot about a person from the company they keep, (as the saying goes). I wouldn't want to be in the company of people like that. It appeared unthinking and unreasonable and didn't show them up in a very good light. However, I think some of the statements made 'in the small print' of the thread were the most likely reason the admins got cold feet.
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post Aug 2 2011, 08:22 AM
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For someone who claims to be the smarter brother, you don't half let yourself down sometimes. Nobody called forum members scum, so you either didn't read it, didn't understand it or are just trying to cause trouble. The woman in the story who had been convicted of serious neglect was called names. Whether you like it or not the news story was in several media outlets, so just because someone reads a different newspaper to you, it doesn't mean thair views are worth any less than your own. As for knee jerk, I would say most of the posts on here are knee jerk, it's a live forum, you read a post and then respond if you want to. There is no going away and thinking about it for a bit for most on here I would have thought, but I will assume that you will try and take the high ground and claim you do.
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post Aug 2 2011, 08:42 AM
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That's shows you maybe weren't about when the last posts were written.

So to enlighten you....'Sidney' said that if anybody defended the girl that made them 'scum' too.
and quoted 'gel' who also said those opposed were 'scum'.

That was just about the last post written before the thread was removed.

Sorry to rain on your parade.

However, I still doubt if that was the reason the thread was stopped
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post Aug 2 2011, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 2 2011, 09:22 AM) *
Nobody called forum members scum


Oh yes they did.
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post Aug 2 2011, 09:17 AM
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gel and sidney both said that forum members defending her were scum also.
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post Aug 2 2011, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 2 2011, 09:22 AM) *
For someone who claims to be the smarter brother


Smarter than you though. have to agree here. Forum members saying this woman and her family needed help not incarceration were called scum by those two already named. Think before you speak. I expect some clever trevor will be able to dig the abuse out of google's cache. Unless admins have wiped that as well. But I read the name calling with my own two eyes.
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post Aug 2 2011, 11:00 AM
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Perhaps if people might have the intelligence to avoid using the presumed offensive term, we might then have a thread up longer than a few days! rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 2 2011, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Aug 2 2011, 08:16 AM) *
If a couple of 'knee-jerks' come on here and start calling anyone who disagrees with them "scum" and they cite the Mail and the Star as their sources, then I for one am happy to line up against them.

You can tell a lot about a person from the company they keep, (as the saying goes). I wouldn't want to be in the company of people like that. It appeared unthinking and unreasonable and didn't show them up in a very good light. However, I think some of the statements made 'in the small print' of the thread were the most likely reason the admins got cold feet.



As this particular thread is still here I am assuming you are right about "the small print." (Either that or admin are on holiday) You are also right about "knee-jerks" but as a parent I fail to see how this case (and others like it) can be defended ?

Whilst my post was considered offensive, many forum members seem to believe this "poor girl" needs help, and Gel and I are the villians !!?? I think the main concern should be for the children now surely ? Where do you draw the line at helping these poor unskilled parents ? Baby P's parents ? The McGanns ? Hard as it may seem there are people out there who just don't care !!
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