Racism in Newbury Options

[GMR]

This might be a bit too nit-picky, but could you please use the term racism if that's what you mean?

Sorry about that Strafin: I suffer from word blindness and i am slightly dyslexic; Which means when I read it back my brain fills the correct spelling in/ even though it is written wrong. Like "think" and "thing" always get muddled up.

[Strafin]

1. You can't be slightly dyslexic, 2. it's not the spelling it's the fact that the two words mean different things, I thought your term belittled the points you were making, which were good.

[GMR]

1. You can't be slightly dyslexic, 2. it's not the spelling it's the fact that the two words mean different things, I thought your term belittled the points you were making, which were good.

Actually you can be slightly dyslexic; there are many degrees of dyslexia.

Looking at it now I can see the mistake and I do know/ did know the difference; however because I didn’t pick it up the first time tells you something. When I read it back it said racism and not racialism in my head. It is something I have had all my life. One way I can get around it is by writing on word and transferring it to a post. Different background/ text usually picks up my errors.

By the way I am grateful to you for picking it up and letting me know as I hate making mistakes and I get a chance to correct it.

[Strafin]

By the way I am grateful to you for picking it up and letting me know as I hate making mistakes and I get a chance to correct it.

No problem, hate to be picky but it didn't sound like you

[GMR]

No problem, hate to be picky but it didn't sound like you

Well, I get annoyed when I make mistakes. If you or somebody else didn’t point them out then they might presume I meant racialism instead of racialist; which would confuse things. I am more annoyed with myself; but it is a fault within me. On the bright side; if I didn’t make those mistakes I’d be perfect then instead of pointing out my mistakes you’d be worshipping me

[Strafin]

Racist or racialist, racism or racialism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racialism

I learned something reading this too!

[Gumbo]

Snow Leopardess you have all my sympathy for the shameless way your family has been treated.

Personally I would move away from Turnpike because it is a breeding ground for all that is wrong in this country e.g. teenage parents, crime, anti-social behaviour, drugs and benefit scroungers. The place, like the Nightingales, needs tearing down.

To answer your original question I have never witnessed any racism in Newbury but that is not to say I am naive enough to believe Newbury does not have any racists. These people are cowards and often wait until they are in a safe, non-public area to carry out their evil. I do believe these people are in the minority and it is up to every single last one of us to educate our children to ensure this disease is eradicated from this world.

[Andy1]

Actually you can be slightly dyslexic; there are many degrees of dyslexia.

Looking at it now I can see the mistake and I do know/ did know the difference; however because I didn’t pick it up the first time tells you something. When I read it back it said racism and not racialism in my head. It is something I have had all my life. One way I can get around it is by writing on word and transferring it to a post. Different background/ text usually picks up my errors.

By the way I am grateful to you for picking it up and letting me know as I hate making mistakes and I get a chance to correct it.

GMR, In another topic you seem to take offence to someones suggestion you post to much. Sorry if I'm incorrect by this. Anyway I was following this post but between you some others I've completely lost track and I believe that you have basically trashed a surious point someone else was trying to make. Anyway post away

[Bloggo]

Racism is unfortunately a fact of life. It is the manifestation of being different.
It's not just about colour but culture too.
This sort of behaviour needs to be dealt with quickly and firmly and I would urge you to contact the Police preferably with some sort of recorded evidence.

[Bloggo]

GMR, In another topic you seem to take offence to someones suggestion you post to much. Sorry if I'm incorrect by this. Anyway I was following this post but between you some others I've completely lost track and I believe that you have basically trashed a surious point someone else was trying to make. Anyway post away

Yes, I tend to agree with Andy here. Many of these posts do end up as a discussion about you and not the subject it is intended for.

[GMR]

GMR, In another topic you seem to take offence to someones suggestion you post to much. Sorry if I'm incorrect by this. Anyway I was following this post but between you some others I've completely lost track and I believe that you have basically trashed a surious point someone else was trying to make. Anyway post away

First of all I wasn’t offended and according to user he wasn’t pointing the finger at just me, but a few of us.

As for trashing this thread; I don’t think so. I replied to somebody’s post; which is the respectful thing to do. Read the other threads and you will see that my replies to Strafin didn’t deter anybody. I think you write over enthusiastically I am afraid (maybe for attention). By the way; pointing out my ‘errors or manners’ is doing exactly what you accuse me of and gone off topic; at least I’ve contributed constructively to this thread, you on the other hand haven’t actually contributed to this thread about racism at all, and you say I‘ve trashed this thread. Pot, black and kettle spring to mind. You could have easily PM’d me to point out your concerns instead of drawing attention to yourself and away from the actual topics concerns.

[GMR]

Yes, I tend to agree with Andy here. Many of these posts do end up as a discussion about you and not the subject it is intended for.

I apologise but as I said I was replying politely to a member on here and Andy was doing what he was exactly complaining about. Hopefully we can get back on track.

[Bloggo]

I apologise but as I said I was replying politely to a member on here and Andy was doing what he was exactly complaining about. Hopefully we can get back on track.

Great, You contribute well to this forum ( and you agree with me on a lot of issues) so I wouldn't want to p*** you off.

[GMR]

Great, You contribute well to this forum ( and you agree with me on a lot of issues) so I wouldn't want to p*** you off.

You don’t my friend and if I do make mistakes I believe they should be pointed out. I agree that when I replied to Strafin - which I did respectfully - maybe it wasn’t the right place. As I said, for that I apologise and I appreciate your input and others; ie giving me a slap on the wrists for my faux pas. My mistakes only show my human side coming out



Getting back on topic.

I am surprised that they don’t teach about the wrongs of racism in schools. A lot of the problems you hear about are generated by kids attitudes and lack of understanding towards other cultures and ways. Schools should set up projects that explains to kids that we are all the same underneath, we all originated from the same place (Africa) and the reasons for differences.

Not only that but if we can spot signs of lack of understanding of others in youngsters we also could also bring the parents of those kids into the equation.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this?

[Instigator]

Hi,

First we are talking about ignorance here. Ones colour doesn’t matter, but their character and how we treat one another does.

What you are saying is appalling. Personally I’ve never come across it on Turnpike - I’ve on the estate for 30 years and my kids were brought up here as well. So you are not alone. The people I know would never tolerate such behaviour/ language.

As for Trinidad and Pakistan; ignorance wouldn’t be able to differentiate between the both. All I can see that you should contact the local policewoman - she is a nice lady - called Jo Pomprey. She will help you. You can PM for her phone number if you want.

Just remember you are not alone. You talk about moving; the trouble is you can move straight into another set of problems. Personally I don’t think the answer is to leave. Fight it and there will be people who will help you fight it.

Racism and homophobia are my two main bugbears. Both are based on a lack of knowledge and understanding.


You are not alone my friend, but those who abuse are.

I couldnt agree more. Having lived in and around parts of Newbury for most of my life, this type of ignorance is everywhere. Although many people knock Turnpike, there are still a lot of good decent people who live there, that will stand up to this sort of behaviour with you. Hold your head up, and as I'm sure you already do, teach your kids to be proud of who they are. thats what counts.

[Bloggo]

I am surprised that they don’t teach about the wrongs of racism in schools. A lot of the problems you hear about are generated by kids attitudes and lack of understanding towards other cultures and ways. Schools should set up projects that explains to kids that we are all the same underneath, we all originated from the same place (Africa) and the reasons for differences.

Not only that but if we can spot signs of lack of understanding of others in youngsters we also could also bring the parents of those kids into the equation.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this?
[/quote]
I think that schools do teach the virtues of racial and cultural tolerance. This is certainly the case since I was at school. Then if you were different from the mass in any way you had to put up with being singled out and bullied.
As I have said earlier being different in any way does cause alienation in the response from some people and in some it is deeply ingrained and no amount of teaching will eliminate the predudice.
Racial relationships are much better however there are areas where these can be strained due to perceptions that the minority group are being given a better deal than the others and where the minority group grows to become the majority threatening the perceived security of the others.
All very complicated but respect for others is the message regardless of colour, creed or culture.

[GMR]

Hi Bloggo,

I agree about respect to others should be paramount over everything else. Schools do teach respect to a degree, but they don’t go deep enough to my mind.

[lordtup]

It may or may not be relevant , but Snow leopardess the original poster, has not added any comments since this debate took hold.
Maybe she would like to comment on the support she is getting

[GMR]

It may or may not be relevant , but Snow leopardess the original poster, has not added any comments since this debate took hold.
Maybe she would like to comment on the support she is getting

I think if she was observing she would have already commented on this thread. Probably she only has access to the computer at certain times or maybe she has to go to the library to access a computer.

[Rachel]

I am surprised that they don’t teach about the wrongs of racism in schools. A lot of the problems you hear about are generated by kids attitudes and lack of understanding towards other cultures and ways. Schools should set up projects that explains to kids that we are all the same underneath, we all originated from the same place (Africa) and the reasons for differences.

Not only that but if we can spot signs of lack of understanding of others in youngsters we also could also bring the parents of those kids into the equation.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this?

See my earlier post ref; Jane Elliott's blue eyes/brown eyes experiment. It got her into alot of trouble in the late 60's & 70's, but Boy! didn't it teach a memorable lesson to everyone involved, both children, their parents & in more recent times adults interested in psychology. Think it is now considered not to be p.c & strangely radical?!