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Andrea
post Jul 28 2009, 12:56 PM
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The 'Gentlemans Champion' tag is one you'll find on the bull terrier owners club website....
http://www.thebullterrierclub.com/
Pretty much everywhere else accepts that it was originally bred for fighting. Bulls especially may get a little nervous around them (The clue's in the name...) Strong head, muzzle and jaw, with a powerful set of shoulders thrown in for good measure. Favoured method of attack was to grab the bulls top lip or nose and not let go
http://www.bulldoginformation.com/bull-baiting.html

I accept dogs may need training for socialising if they are constantly around animals (farm dogs, or dogs around stables.) But socialising just so you can run it off the lead in the country and hope it doesn’t run off into the sunset chasing after the nearest rider out on a hack is something else. It’s called ‘controlling your dog’ isn’t it?

Try “heel!” or “Stay Piglet!” instead? Or use a long leash.

(Andrea….my tongue is partly in my cheek, but my daughter was also bitten by a dog when she was a toddler (still bears the scars on her calf to this day) so I’m not their biggest fan)


Yes you're right, they were used for bull baiting. But this was not why they were bred. They were ORIGINALLY bred to be the Gentlemans Companion.

I don't mean to be rude with this next statement, but did you actually read my original post? I said that we are seeing a dog trainer who will be able to help with the recall and to get her to be not so excited around animals.

I really am sorry that your daughter was bitten by a dog as a toddler and in no way am I trying to be nasty and hurt you at all. But that just shows that your views on this matter are revolved around this incident. You obviously have issues with dogs, and it's a shame you refuse to look passed that one incident. Most Dogs are a joy and it's only a select few that tarnish them. The lady who used to walk Piglet before we moved was extremely wary of walking Piglet as several years ago she was attacked by an unstable EBT, although she did walk Piglet for several months. In the end she came to like Piglet and I feel she has over come at least some of her fear of dogs. Maybe you should try spending some time with various dogs to get a feel for dogs. I sure hope your daughter doesn't have a fear of dogs. I remember having this conversation with AmieB (I'm pretty sure it was her - Where is she anyway?!) and she had a fear of dogs being around her child. Fears are unhealthy! It's for your own good and your daughters good to try your best to over come them.

I will finish this post by repeating myself - Unless you have owned an EBT from a puppy, then you have no say in their charactoristics. Most of the things you read are focused around dogs that have been TRAINED to be aggressive. It's a shame you never hear about the good things dogs do.
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post Jul 29 2009, 04:02 AM
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I hope you get to find a horse for your dog to play with Andrea. That's a nice idea, I only wish more dog owners were as responsible!

I had the pleasure to live with a Pit Bull mutt for a couple of years and he was the most adorable, loving dog.

The problem is not the breed of dog it's the lack of breeding in those that own them . Sadly, some dogs are more disposed to being aggressive and certain owners are disposed to owning these dogs and bringing the tendancies to the fore. This need not be the case with all such dogs. A happy upbringing and a careful owner will see to that.

Sorry to hear some have had bad experiences with dogs, but that shouldn't lead you to believe that all dogs of certain breeds are violent jwas of death ready to eat children at the slightest whim.
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post Jul 31 2009, 01:03 PM
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I think the idea of introducing your dog to horses etc is a very good idea. I was out riding on a hack on Tuesday and a dog charged out the bushes barking madly, teeth flashing - you could tell it was scared and reacting that way as seeing the horse surprised it as much as our horses were suprised! Luckily our horses just jumped a bit as they are bomb proof riding school horses.

Our puppy is now 18months old and we reguarly go on footpaths through cow fields (on the lead initially), I spent quite a bit of time letting him aquaint himself (whilst on the lead) with the cows as they all came over and they all had a good sniff of eachother. Now I can walk him through off the lead and he has no interest in the cows whatsoever.

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post Jul 31 2009, 01:30 PM
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I accept dogs may need training for socialising if they are constantly around animals (farm dogs, or dogs around stables.) But socialising just so you can run it off the lead in the country and hope it doesn’t run off into the sunset chasing after the nearest rider out on a hack is something else. It’s called ‘controlling your dog’ isn’t it?

Try “heel!” or “Stay Piglet!” instead? Or use a long leash.

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I don't agree, dogs should be socialised as widely as possible regardless of whether they are around animals day to day or not. This is so that in an unppredictable world, a sometimes unpredictable animal- like a dog can react in our preferred way. The more they are used to things the less likley they are to cause harm/trouble or overeact. When a dog is over excited by something new (regardless of the breed) they probably won't listen to instructions as they usually might, hence the need to introduce them to potential new situations like meeting horses in a controlled manner first. I am no expert but in my view this is pretty common sense stuff.
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