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> AV vote, Yes campaign strong in Newbury, but what will you do?
What will you do?
AV: Yes or No?
Yes [ 8 ] ** [26.67%]
No [ 17 ] ** [56.67%]
Couldn't give a monkeys and won't be voting [ 5 ] ** [16.67%]
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 15 2011, 01:17 PM
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The Yes campaign have been really strong in Newbury, and whether you agree with them or not it was good to see them with their flags and giving people information last Saturday. I'm not sure what would be best, but what do you intend to do?
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 15 2011, 01:17 PM
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There is a No campaign too: See this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-obZ9OG_XKA...embedded#at=221
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post Apr 15 2011, 03:07 PM
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I think AV is stupid. With FPTP you vote for who you want to win and if the majority agree then you get a democratically elected member. With AV you don't. I am hoping to be out of the UK and into a better country before the next general election though, so have voted "couldn't give a monkeys".
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post Apr 15 2011, 03:26 PM
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A vote for who you are going to vote for? What next, a vote for who you are going to vote for in the vote for who you are going to vote for......?

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post Apr 15 2011, 04:42 PM
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I ticked no.
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post Apr 15 2011, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 02:17 PM) *
The Yes campaign have been really strong in Newbury, and whether you agree with them or not it was good to see them with their flags and giving people information last Saturday. I'm not sure what would be best, but what do you intend to do?


Who says? By what measure?

G-Man you really must learn about your local area. I've never felt West Berks has much time for combative rhetoric. That doesn't mean being passive, but please stick to facts. Exaggeration will rebound on you just as you wish it to with elected Councillors. Have opinions by all means, but set them out, don't beat us over the head with them.

Also. should you really use the forum for Labour Party opinion polling?
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Andy Capp
post Apr 15 2011, 07:21 PM
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I have picked yes, just because the Tories are campaigning for a No.
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post Apr 15 2011, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 15 2011, 08:21 PM) *
I have picked yes, just because the Tories are campaigning for a No.


So you haven't got a mind of your own? You are just a reactionary?
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 15 2011, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Apr 15 2011, 05:06 PM) *
Who says? By what measure?


Have you not seen them walking through town with banners, flags and putting posters up etc? They've had stalls in Thatcham and Newbury, the no campaign have done nothing in comparison. Makes them look strong here to me versus the no campaign.
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post Apr 15 2011, 09:24 PM
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I had something through the door from them and we are quite hard to find - we never get flyers from anyone!
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post Apr 15 2011, 09:28 PM
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We'll all be getting a leaflet nearer the day as both sides are allowed a free mail shot in the week of the ballot.
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post Apr 15 2011, 10:01 PM
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Simple, "you don't change the dope in the middle of a fix"


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post Apr 15 2011, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 09:49 PM) *
Have you not seen them walking through town with banners, flags and putting posters up etc? They've had stalls in Thatcham and Newbury, the no campaign have done nothing in comparison. Makes them look strong here to me versus the no campaign.


Nope. Not a single one.

The 'Yes' campaign is the one for change, the one that needs to attract support. The 'no' campaign has little to do as they represent the status quo. It is always so the side wanting change tends to seek to make the noise. Doesn't make them right, or wise.

Visibility is not the same as strength, or wisdom.
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Andy Capp
post Apr 15 2011, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Apr 15 2011, 08:38 PM) *
So you haven't got a mind of your own? You are just a reactionary?

Are those just your opinion of me, or genuine questions? huh.gif

My philosophy is: anything Tories don't like must mean is progressive and fairer for all! wink.gif
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post Apr 15 2011, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 15 2011, 11:20 PM) *
Are those just your opinion of me, or genuine questions? huh.gif


Oh, I can't remember; I've been to the pub since and now back..... so don't put too much strain on my brain... pose the question tomorrow. wink.gif

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My philosophy is: anything Tories don't like must mean is progressive and fairer for all! wink.gif


Really? When the labour where in power the margin increased between poor and rich.
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Andy Capp
post Apr 15 2011, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Apr 15 2011, 11:28 PM) *
Really? When the labour where in power the margin increased between poor and rich.

What has that got to do with my view on what Tories think like?

Anyway; I don't think it matters how rich someone is as much as how poor people are. If the rich get even richer, but take the poor with them, that seems fine to me.
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post Apr 16 2011, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 15 2011, 11:33 PM) *
What has that got to do with my view on what Tories think like?


My reply was directed at what was said.

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Anyway; I don't think it matters how rich someone is as much as how poor people are. If the rich get even richer, but take the poor with them, that seems fine to me.


I agree. We shouldn't be worrying about the rich, but those that need help.
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Andy Capp
post Apr 16 2011, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Apr 16 2011, 10:41 AM) *
My reply was directed at what was said.

That is just it; it didn't, but never mind, I understood what you meant, but as I have already said, I'm not sure that on its own, the gap between rich and poor is important.
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post Apr 16 2011, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 16 2011, 10:46 AM) *
That is just it; it didn't, but never mind, I understood what you meant, but as I have already said, I'm not sure that on its own, the gap between rich and poor is important.


To be honest I agree; but it was the politicians who where trying to make something out of it. It is always a war of words rather than trying to get on with it.
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post Apr 25 2011, 03:13 PM
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Voted no as we cannot afford it. Even if we do not need expensive machines, the man power will increase, possibly several fold. Under the present system each vote is counted once, under AV the same vote may be counted many, many times.

Also a protest vote against Mr Clegg. It is a pity he didn't show the same passion for his election promises and pledges that he is showing for AV.
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