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Posted by: user23 Nov 18 2009, 07:03 PM

Ever noticed how almost all of BBC Radio Berkshire's jingles often the same thing repeated, often slower the second time?

Is it because they think their listeners are stupid and won't understand it the first time?

Posted by: On the edge Nov 18 2009, 08:30 PM

No its simply because they are cheap and simply using BBC monoploy powers to keep other Broadcasters out.

Posted by: Darren Nov 18 2009, 09:49 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 18 2009, 08:30 PM) *
No its simply because they are cheap and simply using BBC monoploy powers to keep other Broadcasters out.


yes.

Who ever heard of KickFm/Newbury Sound or 2TenFm/Heart FM et alone listen to them

Posted by: user23 Nov 19 2009, 08:20 AM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 18 2009, 08:30 PM) *
No its simply because they are cheap and simply using BBC monoploy powers to keep other Broadcasters out.
I don't get what you mean by than, can you explain please. What are "BBC monopoly powers"?

Posted by: On the edge Nov 19 2009, 08:51 AM

QUOTE (user23 @ Nov 19 2009, 08:20 AM) *
I don't get what you mean by than, can you explain please. What are "BBC monopoly powers"?


Their income is governed (for better or worse) by statute. Under their charter, they can essentially do just what they want to anywhere in UK whenever they want. Over the years weasil words have been added - so no one else gets a real look in. Read it and the supporting rules sets and annotations...make a nice break in the Reading Room for a month or two!

Posted by: user23 Nov 19 2009, 07:44 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 19 2009, 08:51 AM) *
Their income is governed (for better or worse) by statute. Under their charter, they can essentially do just what they want to anywhere in UK whenever they want. Over the years weasil words have been added - so no one else gets a real look in. Read it and the supporting rules sets and annotations...make a nice break in the Reading Room for a month or two!
Some of their income is, yes and as a result we have probably the most respected broadcasting organisation in the world as out national broadcaster which is one of the reasons why Murdoch and pals wants us to do away with the licence fee.

I don't see what this has to do with repeating everything in their jingles though.

Posted by: lordtup Nov 19 2009, 08:30 PM

Try Classic Fm , no jingles just good music with the "odd" , and I'm not joking either , advertisement . wink.gif

Posted by: Hugh Saskin Nov 19 2009, 08:48 PM

QUOTE (lordtup @ Nov 19 2009, 08:30 PM) *
Try Classic Fm , no jingles just good music with the "odd" , and I'm not joking either , advertisement . wink.gif


Oh come on, no jingles, agreed - but some of the ads are dire, esp the ones trying to sell you cars. 'Be admired, buy a Mercedes..' or the other really irritating one with the geezer who claims to be a tyre fitter working under a lorry when the jack gave way and now is getting barrow loads of compensation. What on earth was he doing working under a vehicle only supported by a jack in the first place? - perhaps there's something to be said for jingles. Yeah, the music is good though

Posted by: user23 Nov 19 2009, 09:04 PM

QUOTE (lordtup @ Nov 19 2009, 08:30 PM) *
Try Classic Fm , no jingles just good music with the "odd" , and I'm not joking either , advertisement . wink.gif
Try Radio 3, more variety than Classic FM without the adverts and better quality on DAB.

Posted by: lordtup Nov 20 2009, 09:33 AM

To be perfectly honest I find the adverts hilarious .
They had one not so long ago about a clinic that specialized in hernia operations and the punch line was -

" And you get up and walk away "

Money back if you don't I assume . tongue.gif

Posted by: blackdog Nov 22 2009, 11:28 AM

QUOTE (user23 @ Nov 19 2009, 09:04 PM) *
Try Radio 3, more variety than Classic FM without the adverts and better quality on DAB.

Better music too - until the evenings when they overdo the jazz (not that many jazz fans will agree with me wink.gif ). Not so sure about better quality on DAB though - UK DAB is overcompressed (which is why DAB+ is on the way), a good FM aerial and receiver will outdo any DAB set. Or are you saying that Classic FM's DAB is even more compressed than R3's?

For me Radio 3 is the shining example of what the licence fee is for - high quality broadcasting of minority interest material. The BBC spends far too much cash competing for audiences with commercial stations.

Posted by: user23 Nov 22 2009, 11:50 AM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 22 2009, 11:28 AM) *
Better music too - until the evenings when they overdo the jazz (not that many jazz fans will agree with me wink.gif ). Not so sure about better quality on DAB though - UK DAB is overcompressed (which is why DAB+ is on the way), a good FM aerial and receiver will outdo any DAB set. Or are you saying that Classic FM's DAB is even more compressed than R3's?

For me Radio 3 is the shining example of what the licence fee is for - high quality broadcasting of minority interest material. The BBC spends far too much cash competing for audiences with commercial stations.
I just checked and at most times Radio 3 is transmitted at 192kbs compared to Classic's 160kbs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2009/10/what_happens_to_the_proms_afte.shtml

Radio 3 has Dynamic Range Control rather than compression so should be a better quality than FM in this respect.

Posted by: Iommi Nov 22 2009, 12:05 PM

QUOTE (user23 @ Nov 22 2009, 11:50 AM) *
I just checked and at most times Radio 3 is transmitted at 192kbs compared to Classic's 160kbs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2009/10/what_happens_to_the_proms_afte.shtml

Radio 3 has Dynamic Range Control rather than compression so should be a better quality than FM in this respect.

Surely DRC is compression.

Posted by: dannyboy Nov 22 2009, 02:56 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 18 2009, 08:30 PM) *
No its simply because they are cheap and simply using BBC monoploy powers to keep other Broadcasters out.

Good.
long may it continue.

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