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Berkshirelad
post Aug 1 2018, 10:14 PM
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I have today received a letter from WBC about paying an extra £50/year to have my green bin emptied of garden waste from 3rd September.

I make the following points (in no particular order):-

1) The website referred to in the letter to either subscribe or obtain answers to FAQ doesn't work they have started it www. when they should have used info. Use the link in the letter simply results in a not found response.

2) The main website still lists 01635 42400 as the main switchboard number - despite this being changed to 01635 551111. Not even a automated transfer is set up. Just a snarky message about the change.

3) It also clearly stated in the FAQ that even if you leave the area (or worse, die), there is no refund proportional or otherwise - I'm not sure that a commercial company would get away with this.

4) I will not be succumbing to this extortion (small amount or not, it is extortion) and having to find it a single payment may not be easy for anybody on a fixed or low income. Any garden waste will simply go into the black bin I guess...
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Andy Capp
post Sep 6 2018, 10:19 PM
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However, the argument remains intact: people who pay to use the road are resentful of those who donít.
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post Sep 7 2018, 06:42 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 6 2018, 11:19 PM) *
However, the argument remains intact: people who pay to use the road are resentful of those who don’t.

There are very few who do not pay for the roads as we have already established that there is no specific tax to do so.
Therefore every time someone pays tax, which is most of us most of the time, they pay towards the roads.
Just as they fund the maintenance and running of the railways, whether they use them or not.
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post Sep 7 2018, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 7 2018, 07:42 AM) *
There are very few who do not pay for the roads as we have already established that there is no specific tax to do so.
Therefore every time someone pays tax, which is most of us most of the time, they pay towards the roads.
Just as they fund the maintenance and running of the railways, whether they use them or not.

Bang on Biker!
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post Sep 8 2018, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Sep 7 2018, 08:57 AM) *
Bang on Biker!

Yes he is, except he misread my post.
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post Sep 8 2018, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 8 2018, 08:10 AM) *
Yes he is, except he misread my post.

I dont think your post is very clear then. There is no specific charge to use any roads other than the odd bridge and the M6 expressway!
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post Sep 9 2018, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Sep 8 2018, 10:30 AM) *
I dont think your post is very clear then. There is no specific charge to use any roads other than the odd bridge and the M6 expressway!

Donít be daft both of you, a cyclist doesnít have to pay to use the road, car drivers do!!!
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post Sep 9 2018, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 9 2018, 11:00 AM) *
Donít be daft both of you, a cyclist doesnít have to pay to use the road, car drivers do!!!

Please elaborate. Because it sounds like you're wrong.
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post Sep 9 2018, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Sep 9 2018, 11:46 AM) *
Please elaborate. Because it sounds like you're wrong.

Cyclists donít have to pay VED!!!! rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 10 2018, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 9 2018, 06:16 PM) *
Cyclists don’t have to pay VED!!!! rolleyes.gif

Let's run over it again for you Andy.
We have already established that there is no specific tax to pay for the maintenance of roads ...yes? (See post 57.)
So, although cyclists do not pay VED they pay taxes every day like the rest of us.
QED they pay to use the roads as do we all.
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post Sep 10 2018, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 10 2018, 08:21 AM) *
Let's run over it again for you Andy.
We have already established that there is no specific tax to pay for the maintenance of roads ...yes? (See post 57.)
So, although cyclists do not pay VED they pay taxes every day like the rest of us.
QED they pay to use the roads as do we all.



There is a specific payment required, aimed at any motor vehicle user and owner. It does not apply to cyclists.

THAT is AC's point.


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post Sep 10 2018, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Sep 10 2018, 08:07 PM) *
There is a specific payment required, aimed at any motor vehicle user and owner. It does not apply to cyclists.

THAT is AC's point.


...but it goes to central funds - it is not a Road Fund and hasn't been for decades
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