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Simon Kirby
post Apr 8 2016, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 1 2016, 11:12 PM) *
A lot of 'you can do this on the internet or by phone' - whereas most of the people I see in there are of the generation than are less likely to have the internet, certainly less likely to have internet in their pocket. It's a dying sector of the community, but also the sector that has the most leisure time to visit new places.

The Corn Exchange can sell tickets - but aren't so equipped to spend time answering queries about what to do and drop in the 'how about a nice boat trip'. And they aren't so easy to deal with. They also have up front costs that might dissuade a small event from using them.

There are solutions, but it does feel a bit like throwing in the towel and admitting that no one wants to visit Newbury anyway.

I note from the Newbury Weekly News that the Town Council are still considering the option of providing an on-line TIC. Sounds like a complete and utter waste of tax-payer's money.


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post Apr 8 2016, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 8 2016, 08:40 PM) *
I note from the Newbury Weekly News that the Town Council are still considering the option of providing an on-line TIC. Sounds like a complete and utter waste of tax-payer's money.


Especially when their big brother is doing its best to deter visitors to Newbury..........hiking car parking charges and proposing tearing Newbury to pieces. Bringing roads to a near standstill. NTC hiking precept charges which leaves less money from the plebs budgets to spend in town. Just where they get their ideas from is amazing isn't it? rolleyes.gif


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post Apr 8 2016, 09:59 PM
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Since I last contributed to this thread I have met two couples who were bemoaning the loss of the VIC.

One pair had come into to town to buy coach tickets - easy enough online I suspect, but where do the technophobes get them now? Anyone know of a travel agent doing this?

The other couple were looking for bus timetables - anyone know where these are available now? Apart from online or on bus stops!


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post Apr 8 2016, 10:50 PM
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It's possible to do pretty much anything online - book airline tickets, find a prostitute, look at naked men/ladies and order a takeaway, and find out about local B&B's for example - but I respectfully submit that Mr Kirby and the other web fans here miss the point completely. Although all these things are possible, many of us like to talk to another human being to get advice. Human beings have all sorts of advantages over search engines. They know what they're talking about, they can look you in the eye, they smile. You know, they're human which Google, demonstrably, is not.

I'm surprised that no one has suggested that, rather than throw all our prospective visitors to the mercies of Google and its like, as Mr Kirby suggests, we try to find volunteers to run a visitor centre. After all, getting volunteers to do everything else (run libraries, collect litter, man the police force, recommend sex workers, defend the country etc) is very much in vogue and all these activities can be seriously screwed up by Google. I'm pretty certain that many posters here, perhaps including Mr Kirby, would be very happy to spend their spare time telling strangers about the wonders of Newbury and helping them to satisfy their needs rather than paying for someone else to do so.

So, why was trying to find volunteers to run the visitor centre not, so far as I know, been considered? I think we should be told.
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post Apr 9 2016, 05:59 AM
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QUOTE (Sherlock @ Apr 8 2016, 11:50 PM) *
It's possible to do pretty much anything online - book airline tickets, find a prostitute, look at naked men/ladies and order a takeaway, and find out about local B&B's for example - but I respectfully submit that Mr Kirby and the other web fans here miss the point completely. Although all these things are possible, many of us like to talk to another human being to get advice. Human beings have all sorts of advantages over search engines. They know what they're talking about, they can look you in the eye, they smile. You know, they're human which Google, demonstrably, is not.

I'm surprised that no one has suggested that, rather than throw all our prospective visitors to the mercies of Google and its like, as Mr Kirby suggests, we try to find volunteers to run a visitor centre. After all, getting volunteers to do everything else (run libraries, collect litter, man the police force, recommend sex workers, defend the country etc) is very much in vogue and all these activities can be seriously screwed up by Google. I'm pretty certain that many posters here, perhaps including Mr Kirby, would be very happy to spend their spare time telling strangers about the wonders of Newbury and helping them to satisfy their needs rather than paying for someone else to do so.

So, why was trying to find volunteers to run the visitor centre not, so far as I know, been considered? I think we should be told.

If there has to be a choice between my tax supporting either a ceremonial shop selling stamps, photo copying, and snow-globes, or supporting adult mental health services, respite releif for cares of handicapped children, and a public library service, then my choice is for the latter.

As for volunteer town guides, sure, why not, but it's not particularly something I've ever used in any other town, but if it fills a niche why not, I'm all for people being involved in their community.


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post Apr 9 2016, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 8 2016, 10:59 PM) *
Since I last contributed to this thread I have met two couples who were bemoaning the loss of the VIC.

That's odd, because I've been in town any number of times since you last posted your support for that ceremonial shop and I've not once been accosted by random strangers bemoaning its loss, so I'm wondering that if these dissatisfied visitors are gravitating preferentially towards you that there may potentially be some form of selection bias or that your interest in the ceremonial shop may not be altogether neutral.


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post Apr 9 2016, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 8 2016, 10:59 PM) *
Since I last contributed to this thread I have met two couples who were bemoaning the loss of the VIC.

One pair had come into to town to buy coach tickets - easy enough online I suspect, but where do the technophobes get them now? Anyone know of a travel agent doing this?

The other couple were looking for bus timetables - anyone know where these are available now? Apart from online or on bus stops!


Actually, you are asking for the coach and bus companies to be rather more responsible. Both enquiries would have been answered by a competent public transport operator, not a Council clerk.


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post Apr 9 2016, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE (Sherlock @ Apr 8 2016, 11:50 PM) *
It's possible to do pretty much anything online - book airline tickets, find a prostitute, look at naked men/ladies and order a takeaway, and find out about local B&B's for example - but I respectfully submit that Mr Kirby and the other web fans here miss the point completely. Although all these things are possible, many of us like to talk to another human being to get advice. Human beings have all sorts of advantages over search engines. They know what they're talking about, they can look you in the eye, they smile. You know, they're human which Google, demonstrably, is not.

I'm surprised that no one has suggested that, rather than throw all our prospective visitors to the mercies of Google and its like, as Mr Kirby suggests, we try to find volunteers to run a visitor centre. After all, getting volunteers to do everything else (run libraries, collect litter, man the police force, recommend sex workers, defend the country etc) is very much in vogue and all these activities can be seriously screwed up by Google. I'm pretty certain that many posters here, perhaps including Mr Kirby, would be very happy to spend their spare time telling strangers about the wonders of Newbury and helping them to satisfy their needs rather than paying for someone else to do so.

So, why was trying to find volunteers to run the visitor centre not, so far as I know, been considered? I think we should be told.


....and then there is the much vaunted BID organisation. Tourist Information is what it says; tourist information. What other reason is there to attract tourists, than to increase customers for local traders.


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