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post Nov 2 2015, 05:41 PM
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I have a cunning plan.

Let's demolish the Houses of Parliament.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33184160

£5.7 Billion to repair it. No thanks.
Demolish it.

Build a smaller (much smaller) building to house the ELECTED members of parliament.
Disband the Lords (saving several hundred other millions)

Sell of a huge swathe of property in a highly desirable riverside location for Billions more.

Perhaps they could then modify the changes to Tax Credit cuts (modification is still necessary).

Win Win! wink.gif
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post Nov 2 2015, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 2 2015, 05:41 PM) *
I have a cunning plan.

Let's demolish the Houses of Parliament.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33184160

£5.7 Billion to repair it. No thanks.
Demolish it.

Build a smaller (much smaller) building to house the ELECTED members of parliament.
Disband the Lords (saving several hundred other millions)

Sell of a huge swathe of property in a highly desirable riverside location for Billions more.

Perhaps they could then modify the changes to Tax Credit cuts (modification is still necessary).

Win Win! wink.gif

I'd go for most of that. I'm not particularly wedded to the Houses of Parliament as a building. It's obviously quite central to our national self-image but as an office building and debating chamber it's maybe not the best, and I often feel that this kind of tradition and custom encourages a ridiculous degree of self-importance that really gets in the way of accountable open governance. I don't know whether English Heritage would want the place, but if they thought they could turn a profit selling tickets to tourists I'd happily gift them the houses of parliament with its lovely big clock and put the commons up in something more suitable. And no, I wouldn't bother with the Lords either.


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post Nov 2 2015, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 2 2015, 06:41 PM) *
I have a cunning plan.

Let's demolish the Houses of Parliament.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33184160

£5.7 Billion to repair it. No thanks.
Demolish it.

Build a smaller (much smaller) building to house the ELECTED members of parliament.
Disband the Lords (saving several hundred other millions)

Sell of a huge swathe of property in a highly desirable riverside location for Billions more.

Perhaps they could then modify the changes to Tax Credit cuts (modification is still necessary).

Agree.......unless they follow West Berkshire Council and give the land away or ask a whopping £1........they could then request the Developer to build them a new houses of Parliament or if their negotiating skills are as good as WBC they would probably end up in a couple of Portakabins! rolleyes.gif

Win Win! wink.gif



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post Nov 2 2015, 10:47 PM
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I doubt a developer could make profit in the middle of London. Well, not the developers from around here any way.
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post Nov 3 2015, 07:34 AM
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Wouldn't Westminster Parish Council want to take it over and do it up as a community centre?


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post Nov 3 2015, 03:19 PM
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Yeah, that's not going to happen though is it.


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post Nov 3 2015, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Nov 3 2015, 03:19 PM) *
Yeah, that's not going to happen though is it.


Probably not, I'd imagine Westminster Parish Councillors are likely to be rather more prudent than their colleagues in say Thatcham or Greenham....


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post Nov 3 2015, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 3 2015, 07:15 PM) *
Probably not, I'd imagine Westminster Parish Councillors are likely to be rather more prudent than their colleagues in say Thatcham or Greenham....

Always supposing they existed.
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post Nov 3 2015, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 3 2015, 09:20 PM) *
Always supposing they existed.


No Londoners dont't put up with bumbling Parish council amateurs do they? Boris excepted of course! rolleyes.gif


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post Nov 3 2015, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Nov 3 2015, 10:27 PM) *
No Londoners dont't put up with bumbling Parish council amateurs do they? Boris excepted of course! rolleyes.gif


Unfair! Boris is a bumbling professional.
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post Nov 4 2015, 06:54 PM
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Is Westminster a parish or is this an "in" joke?
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post Nov 4 2015, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 4 2015, 06:54 PM) *
Is Westminster a parish or is this an "in" joke?

Queens Park Community Council is a parish council in Westminster, though I think the Houses of Parliament are outside its parish boundary.


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post Nov 4 2015, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 4 2015, 06:54 PM) *
Is Westminster a parish or is this an "in" joke?


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post Nov 4 2015, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 4 2015, 06:54 PM) *
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Well, its often referred to as a village....


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post Nov 5 2015, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 4 2015, 06:54 PM) *
Is Westminster a parish or is this an "in" joke?

Westminster is a London Borough which doesn't really have a local equivalent. It has many of the powers of WBC and twice the budget, but the London Mayor has some of the WBC powers. More like a District Council / County Council arrangement.

It is a very rich borough but even its budget would be stretched by taking on the Houses of Parliament as a tourist attraction - the repair costs are suggested to be billions.
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post Nov 5 2015, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 2 2015, 05:41 PM) *
I have a cunning plan. Let's demolish the Houses of Parliament. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33184160 £5.7 Billion to repair it. No thanks. Demolish it. Build a smaller (much smaller) building to house the ELECTED members of parliament. Disband the Lords (saving several hundred other millions) Sell of a huge swathe of property in a highly desirable riverside location for Billions more. Perhaps they could then modify the changes to Tax Credit cuts (modification is still necessary). Win Win! wink.gif





£5.7 billion is good value. The amount of tourists that come here because of it will pay for itself over time. You can't keep dismantling historic monuments because of a little thing like money getting in the way. The overall value is worth more.

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post Nov 5 2015, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Nov 5 2015, 02:01 PM) *
£5.7 billion is good value. The amount of tourists that come here because of it will pay for itself over time. You can't keep dismantling historic monuments because of a little thing like money getting in the way. The overall value is worth more.


I feel sure there is rather a lot of people that would not agree with you considering how low in esteem politicians are held at the moment? Especially when they have just been informed that there is no money in the kitty for even some of the basics left for survival supposedly and millions are being cut to the least well off! unsure.gif


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post Nov 5 2015, 05:44 PM
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If the houses of parliament pay for themselves as a toruist attraction then great, there won't be any need to trouble the public purse for the their repair.


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post Nov 5 2015, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Nov 5 2015, 05:42 PM) *
I feel sure there is rather a lot of people that would not agree with you considering how low in esteem politicians are held at the moment? Especially when they have just been informed that there is no money in the kitty for even some of the basics left for survival supposedly and millions are being cut to the least well off! unsure.gif



The houses of parliament are not owned by politicians, they are owned by the state, ie us.
In the long term, for our heritage, whether you like it or not, they are a part of our said heritage. Why destroy something simply because some **** in the 21st century thinks it not a good idea.

perhaps this would be more to your liking?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/...out-of-the-city


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QUOTE (x2lls @ Nov 5 2015, 10:47 PM) *
The houses of parliament are not owned by politicians, they are owned by the state, ie us.
In the long term, for our heritage, whether you like it or not, they are a part of our said heritage. Why destroy something simply because some **** in the 21st century thinks it not a good idea.

perhaps this would be more to your liking?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/...out-of-the-city


OH FFS, this forum is so toddler based. I got censored on the word T W A T.


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