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x2lls
post Dec 5 2014, 09:35 PM
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All the bloke did was answer a question, and just look at the trumped up media reaction.

BBC:-Nigel Farage defends breastfeeding comments amid row

What row? Check out the HYS.

And talking of BBC HYS, why are they so picky on what they allow to be commented on?

Just look at the list of headlines now (2134) and all you will see is the Farage item with comments available to Joe public.





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user23
post Dec 7 2014, 10:32 PM
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I wonder if these comments about immigrants and the M4 were taken out of context too?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-28...Ukip-event.html
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post Dec 8 2014, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Dec 7 2014, 10:32 PM) *
I wonder if these comments about immigrants and the M4 were taken out of context too?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-28...Ukip-event.html


It highlights the need that I have previously stated to be able to improve the infrastructure at a similar rate to population growth, something that is difficult to do with an uncontrolled open door policy.

It would also be interesting to see how many foreign cars remain untaxed after the grace period which lasts I think for 3 months and how this compares to other non-taxed vehicles in the UK. We will no longer be able to tell since the abolition of the tax disc so will be unable to report vehicles that we believe have been SORN or in the country for a while and in regular use and untaxed.
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post Dec 8 2014, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE (MontyPython @ Dec 8 2014, 07:25 AM) *
It highlights the need that I have previously stated to be able to improve the infrastructure at a similar rate to population growth, something that is difficult to do with an uncontrolled open door policy.

It would also be interesting to see how many foreign cars remain untaxed after the grace period which lasts I think for 3 months and how this compares to other non-taxed vehicles in the UK. We will no longer be able to tell since the abolition of the tax disc so will be unable to report vehicles that we believe have been SORN or in the country for a while and in regular use and untaxed.

So you think that the main reason for overcrowded roads is our immigration policy?

I thought that the point now was that tax discs aren't needed. Obviously I appreciate that some people do have nothing better to do than check people's tax discs. wink.gif
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post Dec 8 2014, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Dec 8 2014, 08:28 AM) *
So you think that the main reason for overcrowded roads is our immigration policy?


One of the reasons. Yes. Population growth has been massive and infrastructure has not coped.
To say that certain parts (mainly the south and south east) of England have an infrastructure crisis caused partly by unmanaged and unlimited immigration is not racist.
Its is just the truth. But a lot of people don't like the truth.

Tried to get a Doctors appointment lately? blink.gif
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post Dec 8 2014, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 8 2014, 08:58 PM) *
One of the reasons. Yes. Population growth has been massive and infrastructure has not coped.
To say that certain parts (mainly the south and south east) of England have an infrastructure crisis caused partly by unmanaged and unlimited immigration is not racist.
Its is just the truth. But a lot of people don't like the truth.

Tried to get a Doctors appointment lately? blink.gif
What are you basing your opinion on and why did you feel the need to say your view isn't racist when no one claimed it was?

Perhaps we need more doctors from abroad to help run the NHS, our home grown medical staff are all off Down Under where where the demands are less intense and doctors enjoy a better work-life balance. Of course there won't be an NHS anyway under UKIP, they'll sell it off so no worries there, as long as you're rich you can get an appointment whenever you want.

Back to he "immigrants made me late" excuse, if you have a look at this Internal Migration, England and Wales, Year Ending June 2013 you'll see that there's actually been a fair bit of internal migration to the South East and West from other areas of England and Wales. What would you do about this, close the borders at Oxford and Bristol?
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post Dec 8 2014, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Dec 8 2014, 08:41 PM) *
Perhaps we need more doctors from abroad to help run the NHS, our home grown medical staff are all off Down Under where where the demands are less intense and doctors enjoy a better work-life balance. ......


Are you saying UK public servants are lazier than foreign ones? Perhaps we should replace our inefficient local authority staff with foreigners and outsource IT services abroad - that'll free up some cash for essential services.
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post Dec 8 2014, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE (MontyPython @ Dec 8 2014, 10:25 PM) *
Are you saying UK public servants are lazier than foreign ones? Perhaps we should replace our inefficient local authority staff with foreigners and outsource IT services abroad - that'll free up some cash for essential services.
UKIP seem to think this is a bad idea:

http://www.theguardian.com/public-leaders-...rcing-crackdown

Now perhaps you could have a go at backing up what you've said about immigrants with facts?
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post Dec 8 2014, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Dec 8 2014, 10:05 PM) *
UKIP seem to think this is a bad idea:

http://www.theguardian.com/public-leaders-...rcing-crackdown

Now perhaps you could have a go at backing up what you've said about immigrants with facts?


Can you show how thousands of extra people have had no effect on traffic levels?

Please do share your evidence.

Sorry I forgot you are part of the Public Service lets not see the fecking obvious brigade!
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post Dec 8 2014, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (MontyPython @ Dec 8 2014, 11:41 PM) *
Can you show how thousands of extra people have had no effect on traffic levels? Please do share your evidence. Sorry I forgot you are part of the Public Service lets not see the fecking obvious brigade!
I didn't say the migrants from the other parts of the UK wouldn't have an effect on traffic, I asked how you would stop them from coming to South East and South West.

Since then you've just avoided the question and don't seem to have any answers. That's UKIP all over.
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post Dec 9 2014, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Dec 8 2014, 11:39 PM) *
I didn't say the migrants from the other parts of the UK wouldn't have an effect on traffic, I asked how you would stop them from coming to South East and South West.

Since then you've just avoided the question and don't seem to have any answers. That's UKIP all over.

Not wishing to put too many facts in, but isn't the UK population falling?

https://www.google.co.uk/publicdata/explore...hl=en&dl=en



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post Dec 9 2014, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Dec 9 2014, 08:32 AM) *
Not wishing to put too many facts in, but isn't the UK population falling?

https://www.google.co.uk/publicdata/explore...hl=en&dl=en


No. The rate of GROWTH between 2010 and 2012 fell. It still grew though and the figures for 2012 to 2014 will show a sharp increase in growth.

0.8% of 64 Million is equal to the population of Manchester EVERY year rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 9 2014, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Dec 9 2014, 10:40 AM) *
No. The rate of GROWTH between 2010 and 2012 fell. It still grew though and the figures for 2012 to 2014 will show a sharp increase in growth.

0.8% of 64 Million is equal to the population of Manchester EVERY year rolleyes.gif


The figure for 2014 is not on the graph - but 2013 is and shows a continuing decrease in the growth rate (down to 0.63%).

Population growth s the worldwide problem, it is behind most other problems, but no government apart from the Chinese have attempted to do anything about it.
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