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newres
post May 24 2013, 12:26 PM
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Question to be answered by the Executive Member for Planning and Highways submitted by Councillor Tony Vickers:

"Why was no reminder letter sent to residents of West Fields Newbury (Zone W1) to renew their parking permits after the first year of operation of the scheme?"


From: Executive

Thursday, 23 March 2006 at 6.30pm

in the Council Chamber, Council Offices,
Market Street, Newbury

Thanks in advance.
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Simon Kirby
post May 24 2013, 12:44 PM
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Good question. The minutes say that the question was answered, but don't say what that answer was. Rather unsatisfactory. I wonder if the answer was ever written down anywhere?


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post May 24 2013, 02:29 PM
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Well, if anyone can find the answer he gave I would be very grateful. Also if anyone lived in West Mills at the time and was affected I would be interested.
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post May 24 2013, 06:08 PM
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So 7 years later, no answer and you ask now?

Given that the permits have a date on them perhaps it was decided to save some council tax money and let owners powers of observation and their intelligence take over?
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post May 24 2013, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (Darren @ May 24 2013, 07:08 PM) *
So 7 years later, no answer and you ask now?

Given that the permits have a date on them perhaps it was decided to save some council tax money and let owners powers of observation and their intelligence take over?

As you don't know the answer and I assume were unaffected by the issue, can I suggest you have nothing of any value to add and are only trolling.
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post May 24 2013, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2013, 03:29 PM) *
Well, if anyone can find the answer he gave I would be very grateful. Also if anyone lived in West Mills at the time and was affected I would be interested.

You could e-mail Tiny Knickers and see if he remembers what answer he got.


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post May 24 2013, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2013, 08:08 PM) *
As you don't know the answer and I assume were unaffected by the issue, can I suggest you have nothing of any value to add and are only trolling.


Actually, no I didn't receive a letter but still renewed mine as I was proactive and checked. If I can do it, why can't others?
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post May 24 2013, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (Darren @ May 24 2013, 09:58 PM) *
Actually, no I didn't receive a letter but still renewed mine as I was proactive and checked. If I can do it, why can't others?

Of course, but does that negate the original question?
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post May 24 2013, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 24 2013, 10:19 PM) *
Of course, bur does that negate the original question?


True, it doesn't, but then it doesn't negate my point of why wait 7 years to seek an answer to a relatively simple question.
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post May 25 2013, 04:43 AM
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QUOTE (Darren @ May 24 2013, 10:28 PM) *
True, it doesn't, but then it doesn't negate my point of why wait 7 years to seek an answer to a relatively simple question.

Because unlike many / most local authorities they still don't send out reminder letters. Given it is the same department that issues fines that could send out the letters, it strikes me that the department has a vested interest in permits expiring as they can then nip along and ticket them. Unfortunately not every one has your "intelligence", "powers of observation", or are as "proactive".

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post May 25 2013, 07:35 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2013, 05:43 AM) *
Because unlike many / most local authorities they still don't send out reminder letters. Given it is the same department that issues fines that could send out the letters, it strikes me that the department has a vested interest in permits expiring as they can then nip along and ticket them. Unfortunately not every one has your "intelligence", "powers of observation", or are as "proactive".



Then I'm guessing you haven't either and have received a ticket.

Your last sentence sums up what is wrong with so much of society these days. The population require someone to think for them and tell them what to do, just before they complain about 'The Nanny State'. Whatever happened to self-reliance and personal responsibility?
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post May 25 2013, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2013, 05:43 AM) *
Because unlike many / most local authorities they still don't send out reminder letters.
There's over 400 councils. What evidence are you basing your assertion on?
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post May 25 2013, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ May 24 2013, 01:26 PM) *
Why was no reminder letter sent to residents of West Fields Newbury (Zone W1) to renew their parking permits after the first year of operation of the scheme


Why on earth should they?

Anyone too stupid not to be able to count to 365 from the day they got one shouldn't get another. The permit should be then offered to someone else.

21st century writ large.....bleat bleat bleat...why won't the council/government/whatever do something for me? I'll just sit here doing sweet f.a. and wait to be given stuff. No need to stir myself. No need to think or take responsibility, just wait for others to do it.
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post May 25 2013, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ May 25 2013, 10:17 AM) *
Why on earth should they?

Anyone too stupid not to be able to count to 365 from the day they got one shouldn't get another.

You would think wouldn't you. But the council unfortunately are too stupid to do so and therefore only issued one until the end of the year, but starting in April. It seems that the people in the department are too stupid to have them finishing any other time than January. rolleyes.gif
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post May 25 2013, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ May 25 2013, 09:17 AM) *
There's over 400 councils. What evidence are you basing your assertion on?

http://bit.ly/1752TFJ
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post May 25 2013, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE (Darren @ May 25 2013, 08:35 AM) *
Then I'm guessing you haven't either and have received a ticket.

Your last sentence sums up what is wrong with so much of society these days. The population require someone to think for them and tell them what to do, just before they complain about 'The Nanny State'. Whatever happened to self-reliance and personal responsibility?

Obviously. Where to park, what time, where not to park and so on. Do you not see the irony of your sentence?
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post May 25 2013, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ May 25 2013, 10:17 AM) *
Why on earth should they?

Anyone too stupid not to be able to count to 365 from the day they got one shouldn't get another. The permit should be then offered to someone else.

21st century writ large.....bleat bleat bleat...why won't the council/government/whatever do something for me? I'll just sit here doing sweet f.a. and wait to be given stuff. No need to stir myself. No need to think or take responsibility, just wait for others to do it.

I don't understand the hostility, it seems to me pretty reasonable that the issuing authority should be sending reminders. Reminder letters is quite an expensive process, but it's the simplest job in the world to automate the process and issue reminders by e-mail with a link for re-application and payment.

It could also be easier to find the right section on the WBC web site - searching for "parking permit application" doesn't turn up the right link, and even searching for "residents parking" which is the title of the page you want doesn't present the page in the "Key Results".


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post May 25 2013, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ May 25 2013, 10:35 AM) *
So you haven't actually got anything to support what you've claimed?
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post May 25 2013, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ May 25 2013, 11:04 AM) *
I don't understand the hostility, it seems to me pretty reasonable that the issuing authority should be sending reminders. Reminder letters is quite an expensive process, but it's the simplest job in the world to automate the process and issue reminders by e-mail with a link for re-application and payment.

It could also be easier to find the right section on the WBC web site - searching for "parking permit application" doesn't turn up the right link, and even searching for "residents parking" which is the title of the page you want doesn't present the page in the "Key Results".

Yes, it is quite customary for annual renewals to have a reminder. Clearly the WBC don't agree. All a part of the service.
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post May 25 2013, 11:52 AM
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Pricey little bits of paper.( Nothing Much to do with the OP.)
We do get paper reminders because one or two people don't use internet services.
But there is a web site which works. I just sent off for some visitor vouchers, they arrived in a trice.

We no longer have a permit though to stick in the window to tick off those 365 days,
except nights and weekends, for which £317 is my band. Electronic readers do the job.Chaps on scooters.
It would be handy if they could link with ANPR and note vehicles involved in no good.
I wouldn't mind forking out if something came back from the regime.
ce.


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