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post May 28 2009, 07:22 PM
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I heard a rumour today. The substance of this was that the newly appointed 21 (?) parking wardens / enforcement officers, employed by West Berks Council at the cost of the tax payer (that'll be you and me folks), are payed in the region of 19k per annum each. Not too sure how I feel about this but by my reckoning (basic though it may be) that's at least £400,000.00 per year, assuming that the number is 21, and also not including training and equipement and uniform costs...............!


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post Jul 31 2009, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (Roost @ May 28 2009, 08:22 PM) *
I heard a rumour today. The substance of this was that the newly appointed 21 (?) parking wardens / enforcement officers, employed by West Berks Council at the cost of the tax payer (that'll be you and me folks), are payed in the region of 19k per annum each. Not too sure how I feel about this but by my reckoning (basic though it may be) that's at least £400,000.00 per year, assuming that the number is 21, and also not including training and equipement and uniform costs...............!



I think it has been well worth it; because of their eventual employment and controversy it has kept this forum and NWN's paper well inked up.

I think for an added show of hands we should all club together and give the bright capitalist, at the council, who thought this idea up a box of chocolates. laugh.gif
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post Aug 1 2009, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (Roost @ May 28 2009, 08:22 PM) *
I heard a rumour today. The substance of this was that the newly appointed 21 (?) parking wardens / enforcement officers, employed by West Berks Council at the cost of the tax payer (that'll be you and me folks), are payed in the region of 19k per annum each. Not too sure how I feel about this but by my reckoning (basic though it may be) that's at least £400,000.00 per year, assuming that the number is 21, and also not including training and equipement and uniform costs...............!

Oooooh ... you don't say..... Well I never.... I heard Mavis at the hairdressers say there was 46 of them and they're all on a bonus of twenty quid per ticket AND they're on a forty thousand wage 'n all AND they get their choice of swanky car to drive about in.

I wonder if she got her figures wrong?

Or is it that there are now only 15 of them and their wage is in the 17k bracket... wink.gif

Rumours and forums..... dontcha luv 'em
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post Aug 1 2009, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Aug 1 2009, 12:38 PM) *
Rumours and forums..... dontcha luv 'em



Without 'em then what is the point of 'em? wink.gif
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post Aug 2 2009, 02:30 PM
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Well the answer is simple. If we all became traffic wardens ( I prefer to call them a name not allowed on here ) then not only would it ensure that we all had a car parking space (hardly likely to give ourselves a ticket ),but it also solves the local unemployment problem at a stroke.
£19,000 / annum is not to be sneezed at said the unwell pig.


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post Aug 15 2009, 12:59 PM
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i dont think 19k is enough for the amount of abuse they get from arrogant Newburyites. They also walk around the all weathers so why shouldn'\t they get paid well? they're only doing a job after all.

Also bear in mind that the national average wage is close to #24k.

will you lot just shut up!

and another thing, WBC was wasting tax payers money paying useless traffic wardens from the police before the green lot took over so I think they are good value. I oay for residents parking and I can always find a space. LONG LIVE THE WARDENS!!
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post Aug 15 2009, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE (buttonf1 @ Aug 15 2009, 01:59 PM) *
i dont think 19k is enough for the amount of abuse they get from arrogant Newburyites. They also walk around the all weathers so why shouldn'\t they get paid well? they're only doing a job after all.

Also bear in mind that the national average wage is close to #24k.

will you lot just shut up!

and another thing, WBC was wasting tax payers money paying useless traffic wardens from the police before the green lot took over so I think they are good value. I oay for residents parking and I can always find a space. LONG LIVE THE WARDENS!!

£24k? You're kidding, where does that figure come from? And just for reference I suspect that that the police paid their employees wages, and WBC pay theirs. I also haven't seen the greenbacks out in the rain, but 'll take your word for it.
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post Aug 15 2009, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE (buttonf1 @ Aug 15 2009, 01:59 PM) *
i dont think 19k is enough for the amount of abuse they get from arrogant Newburyites. They also walk around the all weathers so why shouldn'\t they get paid well? they're only doing a job after all.

Also bear in mind that the national average wage is close to #24k.

will you lot just shut up!

and another thing, WBC was wasting tax payers money paying useless traffic wardens from the police before the green lot took over so I think they are good value. I oay for residents parking and I can always find a space. LONG LIVE THE WARDENS!!


Good value is subjective. Any way it is calculated now, these "civil enforcement officers" are costing the taxpayers money. They are collecting less than they cost. This was confimed by WBC stating something to the effect of "more fines need to be issued to cover the CEO costs". If money isn't the issue and having West Berkshire residents parking rules strictly enforced, then they could be considered good value.
My view is that there are too many of them for the types and numbers of penalties thay are issuing.
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post Aug 15 2009, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (Bartholomew @ Aug 15 2009, 06:32 PM) *
My view is that there are too many of them for the types and numbers of penalties thay are issuing.



They will be praying for more traffic crime then. wink.gif
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post Aug 15 2009, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 15 2009, 07:34 PM) *
They will be praying for more traffic crime then. wink.gif


As I understand it, CEOs cannot deal with crime or moving traffic offences. This is still the responsibility of the police and PCSOs.

I asked a CEO about a cyclist that cycled through a red light at the Bartholomew Street/Market Street junction, around cars that had stopped for the red light and narrowly avoided hitting a pedestrian. (Incidentally this wasn't a young cyclist - I would put his age at 45). The CEO told me that they have no jurisdiction and couldn't do anything.

This makes me realise that the CEOs are not properly allowed to deal with more serious issues and their narrow remit does little to help in a pedestrian area.
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post Aug 15 2009, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (Bartholomew @ Aug 15 2009, 09:10 PM) *
As I understand it, CEOs cannot deal with crime or moving traffic offences. This is still the responsibility of the police and PCSOs.

I asked a CEO about a cyclist that cycled through a red light at the Bartholomew Street/Market Street junction, around cars that had stopped for the red light and narrowly avoided hitting a pedestrian. (Incidentally this wasn't a young cyclist - I would put his age at 45). The CEO told me that they have no jurisdiction and couldn't do anything.

This makes me realise that the CEOs are not properly allowed to deal with more serious issues and their narrow remit does little to help in a pedestrian area.



In other words a waste of space laugh.gif

What I meant by crime was parking tickets.
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post Aug 16 2009, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 15 2009, 09:15 PM) *
In other words a waste of space laugh.gif

What I meant by crime was parking tickets.


Lets get a sensible perspective on this. Rather than the usual extreme forum views of either for or against a view, I believe that the CEOs do fulfill a valid function.

West Bekshire has always had parking restrictions and enforcement. What is wrong with the current setup is that the economics of employing such large numbers of enforcement officers has clouded their real value. It stops them from enforcing the laws in a sensible way and means that they are looking for ways to make money.

So I don't think they are a waste of space, simply mismanaged.
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post Aug 16 2009, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE (Bartholomew @ Aug 16 2009, 09:18 AM) *
Lets get a sensible perspective on this. Rather than the usual extreme forum views of either for or against a view, I believe that the CEOs do fulfill a valid function.

West Bekshire has always had parking restrictions and enforcement. What is wrong with the current setup is that the economics of employing such large numbers of enforcement officers has clouded their real value. It stops them from enforcing the laws in a sensible way and means that they are looking for ways to make money.

So I don't think they are a waste of space, simply mismanaged.




Actually I wrote a letter in this weeks NWN to say exactly that. Their motivation is to make money to safe guard their jobs. In a town like this 21 is over egging the pudding.
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post Aug 16 2009, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 16 2009, 10:25 AM) *
Actually I wrote a letter in this weeks NWN to say exactly that. Their motivation is to make money to safe guard their jobs. In a town like this 21 is over egging the pudding.

CEOs are for West Berkshire, not just Newbury town.
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post Aug 16 2009, 10:04 AM
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I had never had a problem parking in Newbury before the wardens arrived, equally I had never witnessed irresponsible parking or traffic built up as a result of bad parking. Therefore I don't think they are really fulfilling a necessary purpose. However with their being so many changes happeneing all at once in Newbury, it is difficult t tell these days what has changed for better or worse.
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post Aug 16 2009, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 16 2009, 10:42 AM) *
CEOs are for West Berkshire, not just Newbury town.



It doesn't seem that way.... and I've NEVER seen one outside Newbury town in all my travels.
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post Aug 16 2009, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 16 2009, 11:05 AM) *
It doesn't seem that way.... and I've NEVER seen one outside Newbury town in all my travels.

I have.
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post Aug 16 2009, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 16 2009, 11:09 AM) *
I have.



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post Aug 16 2009, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 16 2009, 11:17 AM) *
That's one laugh.gif

Several, actually! wink.gif In Pangbourne and Theale.
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post Aug 16 2009, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 16 2009, 11:24 AM) *
Several, actually! wink.gif In Pangbourne and Theale.



OK.... several is good wink.gif
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