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post Nov 8 2016, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 8 2016, 06:37 PM) *
I wonder how over budget HS2 will be!


Why can no one ever cost Projects properly? Its not just railtrack etc. Everything is always over budget becuase they bid knowing its not possible. Just to win the bl00dy contract. Sorry thats my rant over!!!
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post Nov 8 2016, 10:40 PM
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They mentioned the Windsor and Oxford branches and the mainline beyond Swindon as being delayed. Does that mean the Newbury branch will still be going ahead as planned?
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post Nov 8 2016, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Nov 8 2016, 10:40 PM) *
They mentioned the Windsor and Oxford branches and the mainline beyond Swindon as being delayed. Does that mean the Newbury branch will still be going ahead as planned?


Depends if the money runs out.... At least I got a seat today. Makes a change... Had to ask someone to move a bag from a free seat though. Just for a change. Standing room only and u think its ok to take two seats. Prat.
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post Nov 9 2016, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 8 2016, 10:24 PM) *
Why can no one ever cost Projects properly? Its not just railtrack etc. Everything is always over budget becuase they bid knowing its not possible. Just to win the bl00dy contract. Sorry thats my rant over!!!


To be blunt, in reality it is just a big civil engineering job; nothing extraordinary and something we've been doing for two hundred years, so I don't think that's an unreasonable rant. We are told often enough that 'good project management' is the key to everything these days, yet we rarely see it. And as you say, its not just Railtrack, so arguably, it's a very sad indictment of British capability which doesn't bode well for the future.



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post Nov 9 2016, 08:48 AM
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Pretty poor isn't it?
We have successfully overhead electrified 4 major routes radiating out from London since the sixties.
(And that doesn't include HS1.)
You would have thought that we would know how to do it properly by now! rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 9 2016, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 9 2016, 08:48 AM) *
Pretty poor isn't it?
We have successfully overhead electrified 4 major routes radiating out from London since the sixties.
(And that doesn't include HS1.)
You would have thought that we would know how to do it properly by now! rolleyes.gif


Well, we've always known the people 'on the tools' so to speak know what they are doing. As usual these days it's the 'expertise' in the boardroom chiselling away at the numbers they've been given term after term so their performance bonus gets through on the nod. Of course, it's all checked and audited by our Government 'experts', doubtless the very ones advising on referendums....


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