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post Jul 18 2013, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 07:52 PM) *
Nice one GMR!
I won't edit the typo just so you can dwell in your personal satisfaction. tongue.gif
Maybe get a few laughs? wink.gif
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Probably I am taking after you wink.gif
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post Jul 18 2013, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 08:41 PM) *
My point is that the majority of cyclists do not think the Highway Code applies to them.



It is funny you should mention this. I think a good majority of cyclists have never read the highway code. In fact they are not required to read the Highway code under the law. I did say once to a cyclist "you should read the highway code"; in which he replied "what is a highway code?"

For the record; I have read the highway code because I've got a car and motorcycle licence.
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post Jul 18 2013, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jul 18 2013, 08:43 PM) *
Probably I am taking after you wink.gif

OK touché GMR but my occasional digs are about grammatical or obvious spelling inaccuracies, not typos.
I'll try to refrain but I think we both enjoy the odd innocent wind up! wink.gif
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post Jul 18 2013, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jul 18 2013, 08:46 PM) *
It is funny you should mention this. I think a good majority of cyclists have never read the highway code. In fact they are not required to read the Highway code under the law. I did say once to a cyclist "you should read the highway code"; in which he replied "what is a highway code?"

Speechless....................no comment except, I give up! tongue.gif
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post Jul 18 2013, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 08:41 PM) *
My point is that the majority of cyclists do not think the Highway Code applies to them.

The majority? Hardly. Some, yes, and it's annoying, just like any inconsiderate or rude behaviour can be. It's a shame how the actions of a minority can hurt the perception of the majority, but most cyclists are - by definition - just like most people - reasonably considerate and just going about their business.


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post Jul 18 2013, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 08:52 PM) *
OK touché GMR but my occasional digs are about grammatical or obvious spelling inaccuracies, not typos.
I'll try to refrain but I think we both enjoy the odd innocent wind up! wink.gif



This is a forum, not a classroom. When you haven't got much time you don't check properly. That doesn't mean one doesn't know the right way.

I've noticed you making mistakes in the past but I presumed it was either typing error or just a mistake. Obviously you've got a lot of time on your hands to judge and be judger. But, yes, I agree with you about innocent wind ups. wink.gif
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post Jul 18 2013, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 08:54 PM) *
Speechless....................no comment except, I give up! tongue.gif




That'll be the day wink.gif laugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2013, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jul 18 2013, 08:58 PM) *
That'll be the day wink.gif laugh.gif

I was under the impression I had been much less vociferous on here of late! tongue.gif

When you make statements such as you did about cyclists and the Highway Code (in which the rules for cyclists are clearly stated) then it does have the tendency to render one speechless. Little surprise that there is such an unfortunate death and injury toll amongst them.

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post Jul 19 2013, 05:24 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jul 18 2013, 08:17 PM) *
So what's your point? That some people are idiots? Of course they are, we know that, and some of those idiots will be idiot cyclists. Good drivers will understand that everyone else on the road could potentially do something really idiotic at any moment and drive accordingly.

Bang on! The best drivers allow for others mistakes, we all make them. Except Motormad.
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post Jul 19 2013, 12:47 PM
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Glad you have learnt that laugh.gif


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post Jul 19 2013, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 18 2013, 11:42 PM) *
I was under the impression I had been much less vociferous on here of late! tongue.gif

When you make statements such as you did about cyclists and the Highway Code (in which the rules for cyclists are clearly stated) then it does have the tendency to render one speechless. Little surprise that there is such an unfortunate death and injury toll amongst them.




I think you misread what I said. Whether the rules are clearly stated or not in the Highway code it doesn't mean cyclist have read the book; unless those cyclists drive cars or motorbikes.

There is no law requiring cyclists to read the highway code.
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post Jul 19 2013, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jul 19 2013, 05:10 PM) *
There is no law requiring cyclists to read the highway code.

There is no law to say ANYONE has to read the Highway Code.
Perhaps there should be? mellow.gif
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post Jul 19 2013, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 19 2013, 08:23 PM) *
There is no law to say ANYONE has to read the Highway Code.
Perhaps there should be? mellow.gif



Probably, but I can't see it happening.
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post Jul 19 2013, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 19 2013, 08:23 PM) *
There is no law to say ANYONE has to read the Highway Code.
Perhaps there should be? mellow.gif


As you are tested on its content before you are given a licence and as you will have agreed to abide by its conditions in that licence application, there is a legal implication that you have read it. Other users are simply bound by the usual obligation to keep the law - arguably very different things.


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post Jul 19 2013, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 19 2013, 08:23 PM) *
There is no law to say ANYONE has to read the Highway Code.
Perhaps there should be? mellow.gif


Ah yes, a book based upon hypothetical situations which never happens, that was written 15 years ago.
That's like teaching children how to use Pythagorases Theorum. You want to know how many times I've used that since I've left school? NEVER.

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post Jul 19 2013, 11:09 PM
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post Jul 20 2013, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 19 2013, 09:54 PM) *
As you are tested on its content before you are given a licence and as you will have agreed to abide by its conditions in that licence application, there is a legal implication that you have read it. Other users are simply bound by the usual obligation to keep the law - arguably very different things.

Fair enough but still no obligation to actually read it?
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post Jul 20 2013, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Jul 19 2013, 11:11 PM) *
Ah yes, a book based upon hypothetical situations which never happens, that was written 15 years ago.
That's like teaching children how to use Pythagorases Theorum. You want to know how many times I've used that since I've left school? NEVER.

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Judging by the way many people drive on the road (and yes, bikers included) you are far from alone in ignoring it!
Pythagoras' Theorem is not in everyday use by the majority of people. The rules in the Highway Code are (should be!)
But of course you know better. tongue.gif
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post Jul 20 2013, 06:51 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 20 2013, 07:43 AM) *
Fair enough but still no obligation to actually read it?


Yes you are right that's strictly accurate, Then just reading it is very different from abiding by what it says. For instance, I've read Kama Sutra...


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post Jul 20 2013, 08:28 AM
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That is another point, reading doesn't equal comprehension or obedience.
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