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Posted by: GMR Aug 31 2009, 09:51 PM

Talking to a council official neighbour he was telling me that more and more household items have been dumped. Where I live parts of beds have been dumped in the local river along with other items. Where the flats are next door to me people dump their rubbish at the back and side and because nobody knows who dumped them Sovereign have to pay to get it removed. I often go on estate inspections with Sovereign, PCSO’s and such and we often find items dumped in the middle of the street, alleyways and in kids play areas for somebody to collect.

Was it such a good idea charging residents £25 to take their rubbish when it is costing the council a lot more to collect the disbanded items? Or does the £25 compensate for the dumped rubbish?

Posted by: Bloggo Sep 1 2009, 08:13 AM

QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 31 2009, 10:51 PM) *
Talking to a council official neighbour he was telling me that more and more household items have been dumped. Where I live parts of beds have been dumped in the local river along with other items. Where the flats are next door to me people dump their rubbish at the back and side and because nobody knows who dumped them Sovereign have to pay to get it removed. I often go on estate inspections with Sovereign, PCSO’s and such and we often find items dumped in the middle of the street, alleyways and in kids play areas for somebody to collect.

Was it such a good idea charging residents £25 to take their rubbish when it is costing the council a lot more to collect the disbanded items? Or does the £25 compensate for the dumped rubbish?

The Council did not really think this through I believe.
A lot of people will not pay £25 to have a single item taken away and that is a fact of life.
This will, and has increased the incidence of fly-tipping.
Think again WBC.

Posted by: lordtup Sep 1 2009, 08:24 AM

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Yet another example of blinkered logic from the hallowed chambers of WBC , though one has to pose the question why does anyone have a viable excuse to dump their unwanted rubbish when there is an excellent re-cycling centre along the Newtown road .

Even allowing for non drivers it still takes effort to " transport " the items to the dumping ground so has it more to do with the actions of the mindless minority ,again ,rather than the fiscal restraint of the council .

Posted by: Jobet Sep 1 2009, 08:51 AM

There certainly seems to be more larger items thrown into woods or just dumped on local open ground in the area.As stated above it would be easier to take them to the proper place.In these days when money does seem to be in short supply I cannot see people paying £25 per item , or whatever , to get the council to collect stuff though.

Posted by: GMR Sep 1 2009, 09:47 AM

The funny thing is that they tried this once before; charging money to have your rubbish taken away. And the same thing happened as it is now happening. So they scrapped it.

Posted by: Hugh Saskin Sep 1 2009, 07:18 PM

WBC about midway up the range in charging for removal of such rubbish and very few councils now do it for free, I'm afraid. Have a look at other councils websites e.g. 30 sovs in Pompey but with concessions for the elderly etc.

Posted by: GMR Sep 1 2009, 07:34 PM

QUOTE (Hugh Saskin @ Sep 1 2009, 08:18 PM) *
WBC about midway up the range in charging for removal of such rubbish and very few councils now do it for free, I'm afraid. Have a look at other councils websites e.g. 30 sovs in Pompey but with concessions for the elderly etc.



True; but they've also suffered from an increase in fly-tipping.

Posted by: user23 Sep 2 2009, 12:00 PM

QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 1 2009, 08:34 PM) *
True; but they've also suffered from an increase in fly-tipping.
How do you know this? Have you actually researched it?

Posted by: GMR Sep 2 2009, 12:04 PM

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How do you know this? Have you actually researched it?



I am a member of our local NAG committee, local association and also work with Sovereign housing association. We often do estate walkabout and reportes are made. Does that answer your question?

Posted by: user23 Sep 2 2009, 05:21 PM

QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 2 2009, 01:04 PM) *
I am a member of our local NAG committee, local association and also work with Sovereign housing association. We often do estate walkabout and reportes are made. Does that answer your question?
Only if you do estate walkabouts in Portsmouth. I just wondered where you got your figures from regarding Pompey when you say "but they've also suffered from an increase in fly-tipping".

Posted by: On the edge Sep 2 2009, 07:03 PM

Have to work in Portsmouth 1 week every month. GMR is right, fly tipping is up, as per the local free sheet and Radio Solent. Mind you they could be making it up as well!

Posted by: user23 Sep 4 2009, 05:47 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 2 2009, 08:03 PM) *
Have to work in Portsmouth 1 week every month. GMR is right, fly tipping is up, as per the local free sheet and Radio Solent. Mind you they could be making it up as well!
They're probably not, I just wondered how being a member of his local NAG committee, local association and also work with Sovereign housing association gave him a insight into fly tipping in Portsmouth. As of yet I've received no answer.

Posted by: GMR Sep 4 2009, 06:17 PM

QUOTE (user23 @ Sep 4 2009, 06:47 PM) *
They're probably not, I just wondered how being a member of his local NAG committee, local association and also work with Sovereign housing association gave him a insight into fly tipping in Portsmouth. As of yet I've received no answer.



I was talking locally, by the way it is a bit rich coming from you when you say "As of yet I've received no answer" when I and others ask you questions and you just disappear. If you expect people to answer you, then try answering them as well.

Posted by: user23 Sep 4 2009, 07:06 PM

QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2009, 07:17 PM) *
I was talking locally
"They" obviously referred to Pomey in the previous post that you quoted.

Seems it was just another unsubstantiated, throwaway comment.

It makes me sad that you need to do this to get people's attention. sad.gif

Posted by: Sarah Sep 4 2009, 07:58 PM

QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2009, 07:17 PM) *
I was talking locally, by the way it is a bit rich coming from you when you say "As of yet I've received no answer" when I and others ask you questions and you just disappear. If you expect people to answer you, then try answering them as well.


Try ignoring him. wink.gif

Posted by: GMR Sep 4 2009, 08:13 PM

QUOTE (user23 @ Sep 4 2009, 08:06 PM) *
"They" obviously referred to Pomey in the previous post that you quoted.

Seems it was just another unsubstantiated, throwaway comment.

It makes me sad that you need to do this to get people's attention. sad.gif



It makes me sad that you don't answer questions when you expect other people too.

I answered honestly and it wasn't a throwaway remark.

As for you being 'sad'; you won't get any arguments from me wink.gif

Posted by: user23 Sep 5 2009, 09:00 AM

QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2009, 09:13 PM) *
As for you being 'sad'; you won't get any arguments from me wink.gif
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Posted by: Roost Sep 5 2009, 03:48 PM

Perhaps User23 has a life outside of forums and doesn't spend most of his/hers examining what other people have to say or think...?

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Posted by: GMR Sep 5 2009, 07:01 PM

QUOTE (Roost @ Sep 5 2009, 04:48 PM) *
Perhaps User23 has a life outside of forums and doesn't spend most of his/hers examining what other people have to say or think...?

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That could be a possibility.... but some how I doubt it. wink.gif

Posted by: Strafin Sep 5 2009, 07:40 PM

Yeah I doubt it too actually, but there again we're all on here too.....

Posted by: Sarah Sep 5 2009, 08:27 PM

QUOTE (Roost @ Sep 5 2009, 04:48 PM) *
Perhaps User23 has a life outside of forums and doesn't spend most of his/hers examining what other people have to say or think...?

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I very often pray to him above to give User23 a life. wink.gif

Posted by: Hugh Saskin Sep 9 2009, 01:52 PM

QUOTE (Hugh Saskin @ Sep 1 2009, 08:18 PM) *
WBC about midway up the range in charging for removal of such rubbish and very few councils now do it for free, I'm afraid. Have a look at other councils websites e.g. 30 sovs in Pompey but with concessions for the elderly etc.


Just been looking on the Harrow Council website for something else and, out of interest, looked up their charges for collecting bulky refuse. They come highest so far, the charge for a single item that is deemed non-recyclable (e.g. armchair or wardrobe) being no less than £40. A lot of wealthy people up London, obviously

Posted by: Bill1 Sep 9 2009, 04:21 PM

QUOTE (Hugh Saskin @ Sep 1 2009, 08:18 PM) *
WBC about midway up the range in charging for removal of such rubbish and very few councils now do it for free, I'm afraid. Have a look at other councils websites e.g. 30 sovs in Pompey but with concessions for the elderly etc.



They allow you to have your elderly collected???? tongue.gif

Posted by: Bill1 Sep 9 2009, 04:26 PM

QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2009, 09:13 PM) *
It makes me sad that you don't answer questions when you expect other people too.

I answered honestly and it wasn't a throwaway remark.

As for you being 'sad'; you won't get any arguments from me wink.gif



Throwaway remarks must go in the appropriate receptacle. i.e. The remarks recycling bin.

Posted by: Branston Pickle Sep 9 2009, 06:41 PM

QUOTE (Bill1 @ Sep 9 2009, 05:26 PM) *
Throwaway remarks must go in the appropriate receptacle. i.e. The remarks recycling bin.


What do they get recycled into? smile.gif

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