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Aug 8 2009, 06:57 PM
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I think young kids, in schools especially, will always pick on each other a little and you should kind of expect it a bit, but try and keep it in check by communicating with the staff and teachers. As far as having eggs thrown at your house goes, I find that behaviour absolutely vile. It makes me feel sick that people can get away with it. Unfortunatly, Turnpike is a an area known to have more than it's fair share of trouble, and I'm sure the police ignore most of it anyway. I don't know what to suggest to help, but I hope you can remain strong and keep standing up to the bullies, hopefully one day you will get the better of them.
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Aug 8 2009, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 8 2009, 07:57 PM) I think young kids, in schools especially, will always pick on each other a little and you should kind of expect it a bit, but try and keep it in check by communicating with the staff and teachers. As far as having eggs thrown at your house goes, I find that behaviour absolutely vile. It makes me feel sick that people can get away with it. Unfortunatly, Turnpike is a an area known to have more than it's fair share of trouble, and I'm sure the police ignore most of it anyway. I don't know what to suggest to help, but I hope you can remain strong and keep standing up to the bullies, hopefully one day you will get the better of them. I do have ways of dealing with bullies, unfortunately, there is a law against snipers using rifles or any other forms of lethal instruments. Also, and as we have seen from certain members on here, hanging is frowned upon. That is through either courts; kangaroo or normal
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Aug 9 2009, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 8 2009, 07:57 PM) I think young kids, in schools especially, will always pick on each other a little and you should kind of expect it a bit, but try and keep it in check by communicating with the staff and teachers. As far as having eggs thrown at your house goes, I find that behaviour absolutely vile. It makes me feel sick that people can get away with it. Unfortunatly, Turnpike is a an area known to have more than it's fair share of trouble, and I'm sure the police ignore most of it anyway. I don't know what to suggest to help, but I hope you can remain strong and keep standing up to the bullies, hopefully one day you will get the better of them. Yet again, you are right Strafin! I have always worked with children, and sometimes they can be unkind to each other. If I had ever been in the situation where I'd have had the opportunity to re-create Jane Elliot's Blue Eyes/Brown Eyes experiment, I'd have done it. I am convinced the effects would be far reaching, educating our tommorow's adults in a way they would understand & remember. It's hard to know what to say to Snow Leopardess, except that as difficult as it may be, know & believe that many are not racist, me included.
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Aug 9 2009, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (lordtup @ Aug 9 2009, 08:42 AM) Of all the postings on this forum , this one seems to be the most harrowing. One of the great joys of this site is the various banter both for and against the original topic. The response to this one so far has been somewhat muted ( numerically at least ),and I can only conclude that it is because of the very real seriousness of the subject. Maybe contributors are reticent of comment because they do not know what to say. Well take it from me that any words of support for the poster will be welcomed. So I ask you all to stand and be counted and show the bully boys that we will not tolerate such behaviour. Or that they don’t comment because they don’t share our views. We’ve become so politically correct that if we express our views – which goes against the grain – we are quickly jumped upon. Just a thought!
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Aug 9 2009, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (Rachel @ Aug 9 2009, 10:37 AM) Yet again, you are right Strafin! I have always worked with children, and sometimes they can be unkind to each other. If I had ever been in the situation where I'd have had the opportunity to re-create Jane Elliot's Blue Eyes/Brown Eyes experiment, I'd have done it. I am convinced the effects would be far reaching, educating our tommorow's adults in a way they would understand & remember. It's hard to know what to say to Snow Leopardess, except that as difficult as it may be, know & believe that many are not racist, me included. In my original reply I said one of my bugbears was homophobia and racism. Why!? Because it is a form of bullying. To be honest I don’t actually think it is because of the colour of one’s skin bullies bully. People bully because they want to feel superior and get great satisfaction lording it over another. People are bullied for all different reasons; because they are black, white, gay, Chinese, English, American, handicapped, ugly, beautiful, intelligent, stupid, well-off, poor, left-handed etc. When I was at school, and even at work in my younger days, I was bullied so I know what it feels like to be picked out of a group because one is different. Bully’s bully because they feel an air of superiority. What people don’t realise is that it is them that are inferior and stupid. When I was at school teachers turned a blind eye to it – or at least some did – believing it made a man out of you; can’t quite see how getting your head kicked in by 12 or so people made a man out of you, but there you go. What they don’t realise is its affect on ones education, their character and can also affect ones mental state. In some cases some have thought it was a better option ending one’s own life than suffering the bullying.
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Aug 9 2009, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 9 2009, 11:23 AM) In my original reply I said one of my bugbears was homophobia and racialism. Why!? Because it is a form of bullying. To be honest I don’t actually think it is because of the colour of one’s skin bullies bully. People bully because they want to feel superior and get great satisfaction lording it over another. People are bullied for all different reasons; because they are black, white, gay, Chinese, English, American, handicapped, ugly, beautiful, intelligent, stupid, well-off, poor, left-handed etc. When I was at school, and even at work in my younger days, I was bullied so I know what it feels like to be picked out of a group because one is different. Bully’s bully because they feel an air of superiority. What people don’t realise is that it is them that are inferior and stupid. When I was at school teachers turned a blind eye to it – or at least some did – believing it made a man out of you; can’t quite see how getting your head kicked in by 12 or so people made a man out of you, but there you go. What they don’t realise it affect on ones education, their character and can also affect ones mental state. In some cases some have thought it was a better option ending one’s own life. I guess we both have come from the same era of hard knocks that states that boys need to be subjected to such barbarity in order to make men out of us. Education , or at least a proper one , is the answer to all our ills.The fact that the tabloid press constantly outsells the serious papers only highlights how we are failing generation after generation. I consider myself lucky in having parents who imparted on me that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing,so the more we know the more we understand, but I still find great difficulty in getting my head round the mentality of someone who is critical of another because of the colour of their skin.It has absolutely no logic to it at all. We may be getting off topic here ,but it would be interesting to know if anyone else has been subjected to this sort of thing in Newbury,or indeed does anyone actually think that racial bullying is acceptable and care to explain to me why.
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Aug 9 2009, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (Snow Leopardess @ Aug 8 2009, 10:52 AM) How many of you have witnessed racism in Newbury? Am I the only person to have the back of their house coated in egg? Or is it only my children who have also been told that they can't go into the local (Turnpike) parks because other children have said that they don't let Pakies and Iraqi's in. First of all my children are a quarter Trinidadian and not Pakistani at all, they only have a very slight tan, Why does colour matter anyway? This in not the Newbury I learnt to love. If I had the money I'd move far away from here. As it is I'll sit here beneath my buddliea bush and watch the diverse colours of the many butterflies feeding off the nectar and how well they can share the bush together in total harmony. I haven't viewed this forum much this weekend and have only just seen your post. I am stunned and extremely disappointed in the behaviour that your children have encountered. It is disgusting and sadly a lot more common than people in this area would believe. When I first moved into this area I was astounded at the views of people that i met regarding the 'ethnic minorities' in the Newbury area. We moved here from London where racism is more a problem between black and asian people rather than racism coming from 'white' people. It seems that Newbury is taking more time to catch up with the larger more metropplolitan areas of the country in it's educationally social views. There are not so many ethnic minorities in this area compared to Reading, lets say, so therefore ethnic minorities and people of a mixed race stand out more. Catch up Newbury and give respect to ALL. This is a racially agrevated crime and the Police in this area will NOT ignore it and WILL deal with it ROBUSTLY as will the courts! I feel strongly that more people on this forum should quote on this matter and keep this subject at the top of the list. Snow Leopardess please contact the police? They will take it seriously and give it the attention that this sort of crime and intimidation requires. PM me if you need any advice, support or anything and I will do my utmost to assist you in any way that I can.
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Aug 9 2009, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE There are not so many ethnic minorities in this area compared to Reading, lets say, so therefore ethnic minorities and people of a mixed race stand out more. Catch up Newbury and give respect to ALL. Even though I understand what you are saying – and you are right that things are gradually starting to change in Newbury – there is still no excuse for it and nor should we be making any. I brought up four kids on my own – while unemployed – and I instilled in them that we are all equal and that if we need to judge a person then we judge their character/ how they/ we treat one another etc. All my children are like me and hate intimidation, abuse, bullying racism and homophobia. I also explained why we are all different colours/ cultures etc and where we originally came from. There is no excuse for this sort of behaviour... We are living in the 21st Century for Christ sake... this isn’t the 60’s were racism was tolerated or hidden under the carpet.
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Aug 9 2009, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 9 2009, 03:16 PM) Even though I understand what you are saying – and you are right that things are gradually starting to change in Newbury – there is still no excuse for it and nor should we be making any. I brought up four kids on my own – while unemployed – and I instilled in them that we are all equal and that if we need to judge a person then we judge their character/ how they/ we treat one another etc. All my children are like me and hate intimidation, abuse, bullying racialism and homophobia. I also explained why we are all different colours/ cultures etc and where we originally came from. There is no excuse for this sort of behaviour... We are living in the 21st Century for Christ sake... this isn’t the 60’s were racialism was tolerated or hidden under the carpet. This might be a bit too nit-picky, but could you please use the term racism if that's what you mean?
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Aug 9 2009, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 9 2009, 03:16 PM) Even though I understand what you are saying – and you are right that things are gradually starting to change in Newbury – there is still no excuse for it and nor should we be making any. I brought up four kids on my own – while unemployed – and I instilled in them that we are all equal and that if we need to judge a person then we judge their character/ how they/ we treat one another etc. All my children are like me and hate intimidation, abuse, bullying racialism and homophobia. I also explained why we are all different colours/ cultures etc and where we originally came from. There is no excuse for this sort of behaviour... We are living in the 21st Century for Christ sake... this isn’t the 60’s were racialism was tolerated or hidden under the carpet. The problem is that not everyone is raised with the same philosophy. We may well be appalled by the antics of the few , but the only way to eradicate such feelings in their minds is either by selective breeding or by the majority standing up and repelling this insidious concept. Maybe we should remember the 18th century politician Edmund Burke's famous quotation. "For evil to triumph it only requires that good men do nothing."
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Aug 9 2009, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE (Chesapeake @ Aug 9 2009, 05:12 PM) I agree totally... I also agree that people moan that certain people post too much on here, and do nothing themselves to contribute to a single debate.
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Aug 9 2009, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE (lordtup @ Aug 9 2009, 05:06 PM) The problem is that not everyone is raised with the same philosophy. We may well be appalled by the antics of the few , but the only way to eradicate such feelings in their minds is either by selective breeding or by the majority standing up and repelling this insidious concept.
Maybe we should remember the 18th century politician Edmund Burke's famous quotation.
"For evil to triumph it only requires that good men do nothing." Exactly my friend, exactly.
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Aug 9 2009, 05:55 PM
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[quote name='lordtup' date='Aug 9 2009, 05:06 PM' post='4942'] The problem is that not everyone is raised with the same philosophy. We may well be appalled by the antics of the few , but the only way to eradicate such feelings in their minds is either by selective breeding or by the majority standing up and repelling this insidious concept. Edmund Burke "For evil to triumph it only requires that good men do nothing."Love it
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