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Simon Kirby
post Feb 22 2011, 12:07 PM
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The Town Council have issued a press-release about my dispute with them. I would be grateful if you would read it and comment.


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Cognosco
post Feb 22 2011, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2011, 12:07 PM) *
The Town Council have issued a press-release about my dispute with them. I would be grateful if you would read it and comment.


Simon it is hard to give a detailed comment as we have only heard your side of the argument?

Knowing the reputation of the local authorities that run Newbury I have no reason to doubt anything you say but I would still like to see all correspondence etc. It is like a jury trying to make a decision without hearing all the evidence?

It would appear that they have been very heavy handed over someone who is really only technically in rent arrears?

Simon are you really the only one who would like allotment self management?

I do believe the council to issue this statement in this way they need to be rebuked and severely.

Having looked at some of the legal issues I would agree it seems from your evidence Simon the council are not abiding by the law let alone the spirit of the law?

I fail to see why, with the cost to the taxpayer, the council are not eager to let the allotmenteers self manage if there is enough wanting it? How much would it cost to prepare a questionnaire to all allotment holders asking if they are prepared to self manage? This would put the issue to rest surely providing all the facts from both arguments were explained?

The only way to settle this argument if both parties are not prepared to go to any arbitration is for the case to go before the courts?


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Simon Kirby
post Feb 22 2011, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Feb 22 2011, 05:44 PM) *
Simon it is hard to give a detailed comment as we have only heard your side of the argument?

Knowing the reputation of the local authorities that run Newbury I have no reason to doubt anything you say but I would still like to see all correspondence etc. It is like a jury trying to make a decision without hearing all the evidence?

It would appear that they have been very heavy handed over someone who is really only technically in rent arrears?

Simon are you really the only one who would like allotment self management?

I do believe the council to issue this statement in this way they need to be rebuked and severely.

Having looked at some of the legal issues I would agree it seems from your evidence Simon the council are not abiding by the law let alone the spirit of the law?

I fail to see why, with the cost to the taxpayer, the council are not eager to let the allotmenteers self manage if there is enough wanting it? How much would it cost to prepare a questionnaire to all allotment holders asking if they are prepared to self manage? This would put the issue to rest surely providing all the facts from both arguments were explained?

The only way to settle this argument if both parties are not prepared to go to any arbitration is for the case to go before the courts?

The Wash Common Allotment Society surveyed it's members on self-management and from memory it was like 85% who were willing to contribute to the administration and maintenance.

I'm very happy to hand over all correspondence to any enquirery, the problem has been finding any authority willing to enquire. Do you have something in mind?


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post Feb 22 2011, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2011, 05:53 PM) *
The Wash Common Allotment Society surveyed it's members on self-management and from memory it was like 85% who were willing to contribute to the administration and maintenance.

I'm very happy to hand over all correspondence to any enquirery, the problem has been finding any authority willing to enquire. Do you have something in mind?

why are you not a committee member of the wash common allotment society anymore.
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post Feb 22 2011, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 08:42 PM) *
why are you not a committee member of the wash common allotment society anymore.


He's told us on another thread.

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post Feb 22 2011, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 22 2011, 08:45 PM) *
He's told us on another thread.

Are you a teaspoon?

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