 Allotment Dispute |
 Feb 22 2011, 12:07 PM
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The Town Council have issued a press-release about my dispute with them. I would be grateful if you would read it and comment.
-------------------- Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Feb 22 2011, 12:41 PM
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that was a news report from Jan 12th 2010. Over a year ago
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Feb 22 2011, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 12:41 PM)  that was a news report from Jan 12th 2010. Over a year ago Well spotted!!! Changes my original thoughts a bit |
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Feb 22 2011, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 22 2011, 12:47 PM) Well spotted!!! Changes my original thoughts a bit Very interesting. Firstly, NTC is wrong to say your comments are "libellous" against the council and its members. This is breathtakingly incompetent. Councils cannot sue for libel. (details of latest case law below). http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKHL/1992/6.html More ominously, they claim the call for self-management is a 'one-person' campaign built on 'unrealistic' calculations. This could be proven to be an attack by a public body on your right to express your opinions (potential breach of Article 8 HRA). It's quite extraordinary to respond in this way, and whatever the outcome, I would also instigate that the councillor who approved this has in turn 'brought the council into disrepute' (see code of conduct on NTC page) by attacking someone who doesn't like the way things are done. So, Simon. Get the 'no win no fee' guys in, and if you win, donate the money to take on management of the allotments. -------------------- Newbury's #1 ill-informed internet poster
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Feb 22 2011, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE (Bofem @ Feb 22 2011, 12:59 PM) Very interesting. Firstly, NTC is wrong to say your comments are "libellous" against the council and its members. This is breathtakingly incompetent. Councils cannot sue for libel. (details of latest case law below). http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKHL/1992/6.html More ominously, they claim the call for self-management is a 'one-person' campaign built on 'unrealistic' calculations. This could be proven to be an attack by a public body on your right to express your opinions (potential breach of Article 8 HRA). It's quite extraordinary to respond in this way, and whatever the outcome, I would also instigate that the councillor who approved this has in turn 'brought the council into disrepute' (see code of conduct on NTC page) by attacking someone who doesn't like the way things are done. So, Simon. Get the 'no win no fee' guys in, and if you win, donate the money to take on management of the allotments. I have to agree with you. This is a very complex argument, but there is no excuse for targetted press releases at individuals. Surely a better outcome would have been mediation with both parties to resolve differences? |
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Simon Kirby Allotment Dispute Feb 22 2011, 12:07 PM
dannyboy QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2011, 12:07 P... Feb 22 2011, 12:12 PM NWNREADER That is a news report. I doubt NTC would quote Si... Feb 22 2011, 12:17 PM
Simon Kirby QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 22 2011, 12:17 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 12:36 PM panda Anyone who doesn't pay there rent should be ki... Feb 22 2011, 01:04 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 01:04 PM) Any... Feb 22 2011, 01:07 PM panda QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2011, 01:07 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 01:10 PM Andy Capp What it does mean is that you have been given ... Feb 22 2011, 01:06 PM Bofem They think they're being clever by not naming ... Feb 22 2011, 01:20 PM panda looks like simon has one or two people sucked into... Feb 22 2011, 01:35 PM dannyboy If there was a grass roots (ho ho) campaign of all... Feb 22 2011, 01:38 PM Bofem QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2011, 01:38 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 01:53 PM panda QUOTE (Bofem @ Feb 22 2011, 01:53 PM) And... Feb 22 2011, 01:57 PM dannyboy QUOTE (Bofem @ Feb 22 2011, 01:53 PM) And... Feb 22 2011, 01:57 PM panda QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2011, 01:57 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 01:58 PM panda QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 01:58 PM) the... Feb 22 2011, 02:01 PM Rosewinelover QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 02:01 PM) and... Feb 22 2011, 02:05 PM panda QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Feb 22 2011, 02:05... Feb 22 2011, 02:07 PM Rosewinelover QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 02:07 PM) Jus... Feb 22 2011, 02:09 PM dannyboy QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Feb 22 2011, 02:09... Feb 22 2011, 02:14 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 02:07 PM) Jus... Feb 22 2011, 04:47 PM NWNREADER QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2011, 04:47 P... Feb 22 2011, 05:13 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 22 2011, 05:13 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 05:45 PM NWNREADER QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2011, 05:45 P... Feb 22 2011, 06:24 PM Cognosco QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 22 2011, 06:24 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 06:36 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 22 2011, 06:24 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 06:59 PM panda QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2011, 04:47 P... Feb 22 2011, 05:16 PM dannyboy QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Feb 22 2011, 02:05... Feb 22 2011, 02:08 PM Rosewinelover QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2011, 02:08 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 02:12 PM dannyboy QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Feb 22 2011, 02:12... Feb 22 2011, 02:13 PM massifheed Well, whatever happens, they appear to have given ... Feb 22 2011, 01:59 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (massifheed @ Feb 22 2011, 01:59 PM... Feb 22 2011, 04:43 PM Darren QUOTE The individual continues to be classified as... Feb 22 2011, 02:17 PM NWNREADER I know a 'Vexatious Litigant' is someone w... Feb 22 2011, 03:07 PM Strafin It strikes me that this statement shows that Simon... Feb 22 2011, 05:15 PM ebalch I don't have any involvement in the dispute or... Feb 22 2011, 05:26 PM Cognosco QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2011, 12:07 P... Feb 22 2011, 05:44 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (Cognosco @ Feb 22 2011, 05:44 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 05:53 PM panda QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2011, 05:53 P... Feb 22 2011, 08:42 PM NWNREADER QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 08:42 PM) why... Feb 22 2011, 08:45 PM panda QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 22 2011, 08:45 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 09:07 PM panda QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 08:42 PM) why... Feb 22 2011, 10:02 PM NWNREADER QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 10:02 PM) sti... Feb 22 2011, 10:16 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 10:02 PM) sti... Feb 22 2011, 10:34 PM panda QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2011, 10:34 P... Feb 22 2011, 10:38 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 10:38 PM) whi... Feb 22 2011, 10:41 PM panda QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2011, 10:41 P... Feb 22 2011, 10:56 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 10:56 PM) I a... Feb 22 2011, 10:57 PM panda QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2011, 10:57 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 11:03 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 11:03 PM) I j... Feb 22 2011, 11:07 PM panda QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2011, 11:07 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 11:27 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 11:27 PM) so ... Feb 22 2011, 11:34 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (panda @ Feb 22 2011, 11:27 PM) so ... Feb 22 2011, 11:42 PM Andy Capp I think the council have issued a statement that s... Feb 22 2011, 05:58 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2011, 05:58 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 06:45 PM Andy Capp I think it stands out clearly that the council app... Feb 22 2011, 06:51 PM dannyboy QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2011, 06:51 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 07:00 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2011, 07:00 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 07:07 PM dannyboy QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2011, 07:07 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 07:12 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2011, 07:12 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 07:15 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2011, 07:00 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 07:18 PM Cognosco QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2011, 07:00 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 07:26 PM dannyboy QUOTE (Cognosco @ Feb 22 2011, 07:26 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 07:36 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2011, 07:36 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 07:44 PM dannyboy QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2011, 07:44 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 07:52 PM Iommi QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2011, 07:52 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 08:19 PM dannyboy QUOTE (Iommi @ Feb 22 2011, 08:19 PM) So ... Feb 22 2011, 08:51 PM Cognosco QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2011, 07:36 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 09:15 PM Andy Capp What it looks like to me is that the council are c... Feb 22 2011, 07:03 PM dannyboy QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2011, 07:03 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 07:04 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 22 2011, 07:04 PM) ... Feb 22 2011, 07:10 PM dannyboy QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2011, 07:10 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 07:15 PM dannyboy You need to get more support then at grass roots. ... Feb 22 2011, 07:24 PM Andy Capp Or at very least it should be debated in some form... Feb 22 2011, 08:22 PM Iommi Perhaps we need some old and frail people on allot... Feb 22 2011, 08:23 PM Simon Kirby My friend has mailed this, I thought you might be ... Feb 22 2011, 09:09 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2011, 09:09 P... Feb 22 2011, 09:39 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2011, 09:39 PM)... Feb 22 2011, 10:23 PM Biker1 I know you can put people on "ignore" - ... Feb 22 2011, 10:36 PM Iommi QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 22 2011, 10:36 PM) I ... Feb 22 2011, 10:42 PM NWNREADER QUOTE (Iommi @ Feb 22 2011, 10:42 PM) cap... Feb 22 2011, 10:48 PM Iommi Lookout, the resident clown's about! Feb 22 2011, 10:45 PM Bofem Back to the original point
Simon's shoddy tr... Feb 23 2011, 12:10 AM Simon Kirby QUOTE (Bofem @ Feb 23 2011, 12:10 AM) Bac... Feb 23 2011, 08:24 AM dannyboy QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 23 2011, 08:24 A... Feb 23 2011, 10:31 AM dannyboy Anarchy! Feb 23 2011, 12:10 AM panda maybe you should all get out more Feb 23 2011, 12:14 AM Andy Capp QUOTE (panda @ Feb 23 2011, 12:14 AM) may... Feb 23 2011, 12:43 AM Rosewinelover QUOTE (panda @ Feb 23 2011, 12:14 AM) may... Feb 23 2011, 10:13 AM panda QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Feb 23 2011, 10:13... Feb 23 2011, 12:10 PM Bloggo QUOTE (panda @ Feb 23 2011, 12:10 PM) I w... Feb 23 2011, 12:32 PM the bloke on the street well, I've tried to add 2 posts to this thread... Feb 23 2011, 10:36 AM dannyboy QUOTE (the bloke on the street @ Feb 23 2011,... Feb 23 2011, 10:39 AM the bloke on the street I have enquired of NTC whether they would consider... Feb 23 2011, 10:39 AM Richard Garvie NTC say they would consider it, but a fully costed... Feb 23 2011, 11:06 AM dannyboy and there would also have to be support from the a... Feb 23 2011, 11:17 AM |
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