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post Dec 9 2010, 03:00 PM
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I've been trying to get beyond the police propaganda to find out whether the festive drink drive crackdown is the best use of TVP's resources.

I found this, which is quite interesting. There's been a 20 year decline in drink driving convictions, but there are still 95,000 a year banned for drink driving and 14,000 killed or injured (including the drink-drivers!).

http://www.ias.org.uk/resources/factsheets/drink_driving.pdf

Have a read of the facts and post your thoughts.


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post Dec 9 2010, 03:44 PM
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I have been trying to get round the context of the report. There has been a 20 year decline in drink driving and there are twice (?) as many cars on the road, so taking that into account the figures are even better. I would like to see a comparison against other road deaths/incidents. How do these figures compare with at fault accidents, eg speed, tiredness, missiles and non fault incidents like blown tyres, road conditions. I am not aware of anybody who drinks and drives, but I am in the low over 40 category. I think the decrease is also partly due to the increase in female drivers.
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post Dec 10 2010, 08:37 AM
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I drink a bottle of wine a few times in the week at night, this has made me very aware that I could be over the limit in the morning. All though I feel fine and never have a hangover (think i'm imunne to it wink.gif ) I still could be over. Think I will just have to stick to drinkng at weekends. sad.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 10 2010, 08:37 AM) *
I drink a bottle of wine a few times in the week at night, this has made me very aware that I could be over the limit in the morning. All though I feel fine and never have a hangover (think i'm imunne to it wink.gif ) I still could be over. Think I will just have to stick to drinkng at weekends. sad.gif

Roughly: 750 ml bottle of 12% wine contains nine units. If we say a unit an hour processing time, and say you are female, then you could say you are cutting it fine. Also, assume a few means 3/5, some doctors would say you are a borderline lush! tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Dec 10 2010, 10:43 AM) *
Roughly: 750 ml bottle of 12% wine contains nine units. If we say a unit an hour processing time, and say you are female, then you could say you are cutting it fine. Also, assume a few means 3/5, some doctors would say you are a borderline lush! tongue.gif


Which I obviously am!!

I think most doctor would say I am a binge drinker! A bottle a night, sometimes followed with a Baileys. EEK! ohmy.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 11:35 AM
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Trouble is, how else are we meant to get to sleep! tongue.gif

But yes, the morning after is border-line for driving. I'd suggest half a bottle a night would be better! wink.gif Or guzzle lower strength stuff. tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Dec 10 2010, 11:35 AM) *
Trouble is, how else are we meant to get to sleep! tongue.gif

But yes, the morning after is broader-line for driving. I'd suggest half a bottle a night would be better! wink.gif Or guzzle lower strength stuff. tongue.gif


After a hard days working sometimes it's the only thing to help me relax!

Your right, Think I will look into changing it to lower strength, do not want to lose my lisence smile.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 10 2010, 11:32 AM) *
Which I obviously am!!

I think most doctor would say I am a binge drinker! A bottle a night, sometimes followed with a Baileys. EEK! ohmy.gif

You didn't mention the Baileys in your previous post. Anything else you might want to add. wink.gif


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post Dec 10 2010, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Dec 10 2010, 11:41 AM) *
You didn't mention the Baileys in your previous post. Anything else you might want to add. wink.gif


It's only this time of year I drink a Baileys! Sometimes a glass of Archers and Lemonade whilst I am in the bath. smile.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 10 2010, 11:47 AM) *
It's only this time of year I drink a Baileys! Sometimes a glass of Archers and Lemonade whilst I am in the bath. smile.gif

Wow, you know how to live eh. Very decadent. rolleyes.gif


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post Dec 10 2010, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 10 2010, 11:32 AM) *
Which I obviously am!!

I think most doctor would say I am a binge drinker! A bottle a night, sometimes followed with a Baileys. EEK! ohmy.gif

A bottle of wine a night is not binge drinking - binge drinkers drink themselves into a stupor from time to time, they may not drink regularly at all. You, on the other hand, are probably in a higher risk category for alcoholism - I guess it all depends how easy it is for you not to have a drink for a week or two.
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post Dec 10 2010, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Dec 10 2010, 11:50 AM) *
A bottle of wine a night is not binge drinking - binge drinkers drink themselves into a stupor from time to time, they may not drink regularly at all. You, on the other hand, are probably in a higher risk category for alcoholism - I guess it all depends how easy it is for you not to have a drink for a week or two.


Binge drinking can be someone who drinks a few times a week. I remember watching This Morning and Phil said he drank wine a couple of times throughout the week and his doctor said he could be classed as a binge drinker because of the units he was consuming.

It was very easy for me not to have a drink when I was pregnant - so I can do it for 9 months wink.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Dec 10 2010, 11:49 AM) *
Wow, you know how to live eh. Very decadent. rolleyes.gif


Well yes highlight of my life actually. rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 10 2010, 12:11 PM) *
Well yes highlight of my life actually. rolleyes.gif


Wow, I'm jealous Rosewinelover. How d you manage it with children? I've recently cut right back on my alcohol intake as I had a very painful incident with my gallbladder and the internet said that alcohol could be a factor. Would love to have a Bailey's a night though as IT IS Christmas time and that dictates that Baileys is a must.....Think I will risk it over the Christmas break when I won't have to do the school run every day! rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 10 2010, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (Chesapeake @ Dec 10 2010, 12:24 PM) *
Wow, I'm jealous Rosewinelover. How d you manage it with children? I've recently cut right back on my alcohol intake as I had a very painful incident with my gallbladder and the internet said that alcohol could be a factor. Would love to have a Bailey's a night though as IT IS Christmas time and that dictates that Baileys is a must.....Think I will risk it over the Christmas break when I won't have to do the school run every day! rolleyes.gif


Yes Baileys is a must at Christmas time smile.gif Once my son is in bed it's nice to relax with a drink (not every night as some might think). Don't always drink the bottle, just one or maybe 2 glasses, then a Baileys to drink whilst doing household chores (need something to pass the boring ironing wink.gif ) or in bed whilst reading.

I wont get a christmas break as I still have to work! sad.gif My son is at nursery so no holidays for him either! sad.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 12:37 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binge_drinkers

"In the United Kingdom, binge drinking is defined as drinking more than twice the daily limit, that is, drinking eight units or more for men or six units or more for women"

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post Dec 10 2010, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Dec 10 2010, 12:37 PM) *
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binge_drinkers

"In the United Kingdom, binge drinking is defined as drinking more than twice the daily limit, that is, drinking eight units or more for men or six units or more for women"

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Thought so!
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post Dec 10 2010, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Dec 10 2010, 12:05 PM) *
It was very easy for me not to have a drink when I was pregnant

I think I've just spotted the solution to your problem!
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post Dec 11 2010, 08:31 PM
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Well if anyone out there wants to go down that route i'm sure I can help out !


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