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Sep 26 2012, 03:09 PM
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I was crossing the Sainsbury's roundabout today and the green man said it was safe to cross but a car drove straight through the red light at high speed just I was about to cross. Now I know the lady looked mortified and she realised what she had done but it's no excuse. If someone elderly had been crossing they'd have been dead. This set of lights is dangerous for pedestrians - Drivers regulalry go through on red and the sequence of the lights mean that pedestrians arrive at the second crossing just as the man go's from green to red - encouraging them to run across. This is an accident waiting to happen. Sorry to sound melodramatic but I honestly believe that it is a certainty that someone will be knocked over and killed very soon.
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Sep 26 2012, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Sep 26 2012, 04:09 PM) I was crossing the Sainsbury's roundabout today and the green man said it was safe to cross but a car drove straight through the red light at high speed just I was about to cross. Now I know the lady looked mortified and she realised what she had done but it's no excuse. If someone elderly had been crossing they'd have been dead. This set of lights is dangerous for pedestrians - Drivers regulalry go through on red and the sequence of the lights mean that pedestrians arrive at the second crossing just as the man go's from green to red - encouraging them to run across. This is an accident waiting to happen. Sorry to sound melodramatic but I honestly believe that it is a certainty that someone will be knocked over and killed very soon. I have been asking for these lights to be pedestrian friendly since they were installed. The gap between the 'on island' light turning red to stop traffic and the green man allowing pedestians to cross needs to be longer to allow for amber dodgers.
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Sep 26 2012, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Sep 26 2012, 04:09 PM) This is an accident waiting to happen. Sorry to sound melodramatic but I honestly believe that it is a certainty that someone will be knocked over and killed very soon. Not waiting to happen - it has already happened, though hopefully the person knocked down was not killed. I passed the scene just after. Police and ambulance in attendance. I expect it was reported in the NWN at the time (this was a couple of months ago). Though judging by the position of the victim either they were dragged some way, or they were chancing it by not using the crossing at all.
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Sep 26 2012, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (lordtup @ Sep 26 2012, 05:47 PM) Not too sure the answer but something definitely needs doing. Let's hope they build an underpass soon. Oh, um...hang on.....
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Sep 26 2012, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Sep 26 2012, 04:24 PM) I have been asking for these lights to be pedestrian friendly since they were installed. The gap between the 'on island' light turning red to stop traffic and the green man allowing pedestians to cross needs to be longer to allow for amber dodgers. Who have you asked, and what have the responses been? Please tell us, sounds like it might make a good story for the NWN? I can't take all the drama and generally use the subway provided myself
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Sep 27 2012, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (Hugh Saskin @ Sep 26 2012, 08:53 PM) Who have you asked, and what have the responses been? Please tell us, sounds like it might make a good story for the NWN? I can't take all the drama and generally use the subway provided myself The Tory canvassers twice and have approached the councillors on the Town Hall Steps. On a few occassions the fencing has been buckled where a vehicle has hit it.
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Sep 27 2012, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 26 2012, 04:37 PM) Not waiting to happen - it has already happened, though hopefully the person knocked down was not killed. I passed the scene just after. Police and ambulance in attendance. I expect it was reported in the NWN at the time (this was a couple of months ago).
Though judging by the position of the victim either they were dragged some way, or they were chancing it by not using the crossing at all. I believe this was an elderly gentleman who got knocked over. Not apportioning blame but think he must have used the crossing, as apart from the pedestrian section, there is a barrier.
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Sep 27 2012, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Sep 27 2012, 12:30 PM) think he must have used the crossing, as apart from the pedestrian section, there is a barrier. Maybe not an elderly gentleman, but have you seen the number of people who chance it by crossing anywhere between Sainsbury's and the BK roundabout, where there is a central barrier the whole way along?
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Sep 27 2012, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 27 2012, 01:34 PM) Maybe not an elderly gentleman, but have you seen the number of people who chance it by crossing anywhere between Sainsbury's and the BK roundabout, where there is a central barrier the whole way along? Yep - including climbing over the barrier!
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Sep 27 2012, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ Sep 26 2012, 08:52 PM) Let's hope they build an underpass soon. Oh, um...hang on..... Unfortunately one still has to negotiate at least three sets of crossing lights to get to the underpass ,assuming Sainsburys is the principal target .
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Sep 27 2012, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Sep 26 2012, 04:09 PM) I was crossing the Sainsbury's roundabout today and the green man said it was safe to cross but a car drove straight through the red light at high speed just I was about to cross. Now I know the lady looked mortified and she realised what she had done but it's no excuse. If someone elderly had been crossing they'd have been dead. This set of lights is dangerous for pedestrians - Drivers regulalry go through on red and the sequence of the lights mean that pedestrians arrive at the second crossing just as the man go's from green to red - encouraging them to run across. This is an accident waiting to happen. Sorry to sound melodramatic but I honestly believe that it is a certainty that someone will be knocked over and killed very soon. I've often seen this happen. Didn't a pedestrian get knocked down a couple of months ago there on the crossing? You are lucky that the driver didn't think he was in the film Death Race 2000; then his miss will lose him points.
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Sep 27 2012, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 27 2012, 04:50 PM) I've often seen this happen. Didn't a pedestrian get knocked down a couple of months ago there on the crossing? You are lucky that the driver didn't think he was in the film Death Race 2000; then his miss will lose him points. Didn't read the whole thread I guess. (See reply no 3) I assume the traffic jumping the red light is going south on the A339 across the Kings Rd traffic coming from Sainsbury. This has to be one of the most jumped lights anywhere. Drivers cross the set of lights at amber alongside the police station and then don't realise that a few feet further on is another set of lights which are not too obvious to strangers. I nearly had the front taken off my car recently in exactly this way. Fortunately I saw him/her out of the side of my eye and was able to stop but it was very close.
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Sep 27 2012, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 27 2012, 06:42 PM) Didn't read the whole thread I guess. (See reply no 3) Not really, just what interests me. Like starting from the beginning and going no further.
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Sep 27 2012, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 27 2012, 08:20 PM) It might help if you had read it first, and not wasted my valuable time reading it again! Not really; I am a unique individual who writes what he thinks, not what other people think. However, and saying that; if you had valuable time you wouldn't be on this forum. My contribution helped you write something to alleviate your boredom. No need to thank me; it is always pleasure to help a much loved forum comrade.
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