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 Mar 18 2016, 07:27 PM
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COMMON AGRICULTURAL POLICY....
Wonder why the need for clandestine meetings in back rooms of local pubs to arrange the fight? A quick Google will provide the answer!  Benyon.... 
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Mar 18 2016, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 18 2016, 07:27 PM)  COMMON AGRICULTURAL POLICY.... Wonder why the need for clandestine meetings in back rooms of local pubs to arrange the fight? A quick Google will provide the answer! Benyon.... Why personalise the debate? If you believe there is a problem with the CAP then you should be able to put together an objective evidenced-based argument against it with a decent outline of an alternative that you can show, in the round, to work better. Then having done that you'd need to show how the failure of the CAP was reason enough for the UK to leave the EU and that no other accommodation would work as well in the UK's national interests, again, in the round, taking into account the realpolitik of the UK's place in Europe, and Europe in the world. Really, if people are going to vote to leave the EU I'd hope that they'd have a better rationale than class envy. -------------------- Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Mar 18 2016, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 18 2016, 07:27 PM) COMMON AGRICULTURAL POLICY.... Wonder why the need for clandestine meetings in back rooms of local pubs to arrange the fight? A quick Google will provide the answer! Benyon.... Come on give the chap a break.......there is only so much the poorest and the most vulnerable in society can donate? Therefore the ones with the most need to have somewhere they can access to be able to add to their assets!
-------------------- Vexatious Candidate?
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Mar 18 2016, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 18 2016, 08:21 PM) Why personalise the debate? If you believe there is a problem with the CAP then you should be able to put together an objective evidenced-based argument against it with a decent outline of an alternative that you can show, in the round, to work better. Then having done that you'd need to show how the failure of the CAP was reason enough for the UK to leave the EU and that no other accommodation would work as well in the UK's national interests, again, in the round, taking into account the realpolitik of the UK's place in Europe, and Europe in the world. Really, if people are going to vote to leave the EU I'd hope that they'd have a better rationale than class envy. I'm not debating. Someone who benefits directly from CAP and the EU should be neutral. What's the problem with that? |
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Mar 18 2016, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 18 2016, 08:35 PM) I'm not debating. Someone who benefits directly from CAP and the EU should be neutral. What's the problem with that? I don't agree, but fair enough. I'm much more concerned about Boris Johnson, lending his undoubted charisma to the out campaign to serve his personal political career and whipping up baseless hysteria about the safety of the UK being threatened if we remain in the EU because he knows that fear motivates voters and his rapacious ego needs votes. -------------------- Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Mar 19 2016, 07:15 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 18 2016, 08:35 PM) I'm not debating. Someone who benefits directly from CAP and the EU should be neutral. What's the problem with that? On reflection, no sorry, not fair enough. Isn't everyone entitled to express support for the refetendum result that best serves their personal interests? It's a referendum, no one is deciding this matter on our behalf so there can be no prejudicial intetest, and of course people will vote for the option that they believes will best serve their interests, and that's true even if you vote altruistically as your vote is still serving your personal wish to bend reality to your world-view. -------------------- Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Mar 19 2016, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 19 2016, 07:15 AM) On reflection, no sorry, not fair enough. Isn't everyone entitled to express support for the refetendum result that best serves their personal interests? It's a referendum, no one is deciding this matter on our behalf so there can be no prejudicial intetest, and of course people will vote for the option that they believes will best serve their interests, and that's true even if you vote altruistically as your vote is still serving your personal wish to bend reality to your world-view. You can even start an argument with yourself Simon! 
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Mar 19 2016, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Mar 19 2016, 07:26 AM) You can even start an argument with yourself Simon! 
-------------------- Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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Mar 19 2016, 11:01 AM
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Wasn't Benton that dog in Richmond Park? Or was it Fenton? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GRSbr0EYYU
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Mar 22 2016, 06:02 AM
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QUOTE (Sherlock @ Mar 19 2016, 01:01 PM) Wasn't Benton that dog in Richmond Park? Or was it Fenton? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GRSbr0EYYU Or maybe this Benton?? |
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Mar 22 2016, 02:48 PM
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-------------------- There their, loose loser!
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