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post Sep 2 2012, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE (Timbo @ Sep 2 2012, 05:31 PM) *
Not threatening. I know how long my car is and will pull back past them as closely as is possible without being unsafe or causing an acident.
You do seem to be a bit ignorant to how motorways work. In both circumstances all of the cars pictured in the middle lane SHOULD be in the left hand-most lane irrespective of speed


Possibly, but why do you feel you need to force your superior knowledge of motorway driving on everybody who doesn't fit your plan. It's not your job. Just relax and act like a reasonable human being.
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post Sep 2 2012, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 2 2012, 02:34 PM) *
Just because they do it over the pond where they never travel at more than 50mph,


What gives you that idea, have you ever driven over there !! huh.gif
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post Sep 2 2012, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE (HJD @ Sep 2 2012, 07:32 PM) *
What gives you that idea, have you ever driven over there !! huh.gif


Oh for goodness sake...... wink.gif

It was a joke, I know they now travel at 65mph but it used to be much lower.

Ignore the Blues Brothers, it really isn't like that.
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post Sep 2 2012, 07:19 PM
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Sometimes 75!
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post Sep 2 2012, 07:19 PM
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Very many states in the US have a 75 MPH limit and in two states it is 80. As I have said before on this forum they liked you to ride the Big 50 for safety and economy. The 50 campaign took place years ago.
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post Sep 2 2012, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 2 2012, 07:25 PM) *
Possibly, but why do you feel you need to force your superior knowledge of motorway driving on everybody who doesn't fit your plan. It's not your job. Just relax and act like a reasonable human being.


I just expect people to know that they should use the left hand lane where possible. There's really no reason for it and no excuse to not.. my issue is normally they are the kind to just stare ahead, tunnel vision..
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post Sep 2 2012, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE (Timbo @ Sep 2 2012, 09:20 PM) *
I just expect people to know that they should use the left hand lane where possible. There's really no reason for it and no excuse to not.. my issue is normally they are the kind to just stare ahead, tunnel vision..


If you really want to get your message across as part of your crusade, then get one of those illuminated boxes on your rear screen that pops up a suitable message that will make naughty drivers understand the error of their ways.

If there were more drivers around, like you, who are prepared to educate us in the error of our ways, I'm sure the roads and motorways would be a safer place.

Me, I have learned the errors of my way and will never move from the left hand lane and will allow you to drive by in your souped up, large braked vauxhall at ninety miles an hour, secure in the knowledge that with your considerate driving we will all be safer even though you feel that modifying your brakes is the same as having a bulb out.

Thank you and goodnight. Work tomorrow, see you on the M4 perhaps.

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post Sep 3 2012, 06:27 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Sep 1 2012, 10:28 PM) *
1 .Fully agree.
2. There is NEVER an excuse to tailgate. Period


Quite. Anyone who argues otherwise is unfit to drive.

Just to clarify what was happening on Friday, the tailgating occurred when cars and lorries were overtaking quite long lines of lorries. Often the cars overtaking were travelling at 70mph plus but were then aggressively tailgated by others which arrived in the overtaking queue at 80/90 mph. Those at the head of the tailgating queues had nowhere to go and yet were having headlights flashed at them.

I don't usually drive particularly slowly but the behaviour of a small number of incredibly stupid drivers on Friday stood out and I stuck at 50mph behind the slower traffic in the inside lane allowing plenty of space in case one of the morons triggered a crash. Having narrowly avoided a huge multiple vehicle pile up on the M6 many years ago (I was able to slip through on the inside lane) I try not to take chances. Walking back to that pile of mangled vehicles and people, the M6 suddenly silent apart from screams and sobs, is something I'll never forget.
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post Sep 3 2012, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE (NORTHENDER @ Sep 2 2012, 08:19 PM) *
The 50 campaign took place years ago.

It used to be "Not over 55" when the oil crisis was on. (Crisis, what crisis?)
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post Sep 3 2012, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 2 2012, 12:54 PM) *
And as far as Biker is concerned, don't shout.

Who's shouting?
It's an acronym - usually typified by CAPITAL LETTERS!
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post Sep 3 2012, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE (Sherlock @ Sep 3 2012, 07:27 AM) *
Quite. Anyone who argues otherwise is unfit to drive.

Absolutely, the key to good driving in my book, is making sure you allow others the room to make their own mistakes.
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post Sep 3 2012, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 3 2012, 09:14 AM) *
It used to be "Not over 55" when the oil crisis was on. (Crisis, what crisis?)


We all know that the states have different rules from state to state and these can be a bit confusing at times, turning right on red lights being one of them. In general I find the driving in small town America is quite good and drivers much more polite to each other. City driving is city driving wherever you go, dog eat dog, bayonets fixed and charge.
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post Sep 3 2012, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 3 2012, 12:13 AM) *
If you really want to get your message across as part of your crusade, then get one of those illuminated boxes on your rear screen that pops up a suitable message that will make naughty drivers understand the error of their ways.


No because that would truly make me a bit of a ****. blink.gif

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If there were more drivers around, like you, who are prepared to educate us in the error of our ways, I'm sure the roads and motorways would be a safer place.


To be honest if everyone used the correct lane and had better lane disclipline the motorways probably would be a safer place - the irony.

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Me, I have learned the errors of my way and will never move from the left hand lane and will allow you to drive by in your souped up, large braked vauxhall at ninety miles an hour, secure in the knowledge that with your considerate driving we will all be safer even though you feel that modifying your brakes is the same as having a bulb out.

Thank you and goodnight. Work tomorrow, see you on the M4 perhaps.


Excellent. Although that is not what I'm saying. I'm just saying don't hog the middle lane because there is a lorry 1500 yards ahead, you're doing 65 and he's doing 56 that's a good 2 minutes before you catch and pass him. So move over!!
Again with the brakes.. lol........... In terms of legality it's exactly the same. I don't drive a Vauxhall.

Hope you had a pleasant evening. My journey to work is about 1.2 miles so... no. laugh.gif
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post Sep 3 2012, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Sep 2 2012, 02:58 PM) *
The totally correct thing to do would obviously be slow down, leave a massive gap, pull out behind them, go across two lanes, overtake, indicate to come back and then manoeuvre back across two lanes again.


I have done that and I know it is the correct thing to do, but must admit most of the time I undertake the middle lane hogger.
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post Sep 3 2012, 07:48 PM
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It appears to me that no matter how much you try to describe your own experience on here, it is never truly picked up on. There are even times when a reply completely distorts the original description.

No wonder there is chaos on the roads. blink.gif


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post Sep 4 2012, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Sep 3 2012, 08:14 PM) *
I have done that and I know it is the correct thing to do, but must admit most of the time I undertake the middle lane hogger.


One of the most dangerous manoeuvres that anyone can make on a motorway. I would hope that an unmarked up behind you will let you know the error of your ways one day hopefully before you cause a major.
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 4 2012, 08:54 AM) *
One of the most dangerous manoeuvres that anyone can make on a motorway. I would hope that an unmarked up behind you will let you know the error of your ways one day hopefully before you cause a major.


Depends how slow they are going, sometimes its not really undertaking as in you just drivr past them because they are donig 55 in the middle lane.
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 4 2012, 08:54 AM) *
One of the most dangerous manoeuvres that anyone can make on a motorway. I would hope that an unmarked up behind you will let you know the error of your ways one day hopefully before you cause a major.


So I am doing 70 in the inside line. You are doing 60 in the middle [u]overtaking[u] lane - and you think I am in the wrong!
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 4 2012, 08:54 AM) *
One of the most dangerous manoeuvres that anyone can make on a motorway. I would hope that an unmarked up behind you will let you know the error of your ways one day hopefully before you cause a major.

Most countries allow it, so I don't think it is. I would say one of the most dangerous things you can do is change lanes without checking your mirrors.
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE (Exhausted @ Sep 4 2012, 08:54 AM) *
One of the most dangerous manoeuvres that anyone can make on a motorway. I would hope that an unmarked up behind you will let you know the error of your ways one day hopefully before you cause a major.


Quite why 'an unmarked' would do anything is interesting. It is not illegal to overtake on the left if traffic in a lane to your right is moving more slowly.

What would cause comment from the Police is deliberately moving lanes to overtake on the nearside.

And I (of course) disagree that it is one of the most dangerous manoeuvres that anyone can make on a motorway - I take it that you have never driven on the M25
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